The Poolie Bunker

by **Eiphos_3** » Tue May 24, 2022 10:19 pm

Hartley had DC esq written all over him. Was just warming to the idea
Nm

by **Snowy** » Wed May 25, 2022 6:40 am

Are we putting all our eggs into one basket. chasing someone who may not come….?
I’d have liked someone in ASAP after Lee went, especially when the owner knew he was off , …….to get the holiday camp squad organised for next season, but…….. :angry-tappingfoot:

by **thebigdog** » Wed May 25, 2022 7:42 am

Manager to be announced a week today!

by **accrington fan** » Wed May 25, 2022 8:07 am

Snowy wrote:Are we putting all our eggs into one basket. chasing someone who may not come….?
I’d have liked someone in ASAP after Lee went, especially when the owner knew he was off , …….to get the holiday camp squad organised for next season, but……..

yes, a pointless waste of time with the clock ticking to tout the club around just in case someone may take the job on. said it before that we and others have not learned from the old days of just advertising the thing. at least then you will get people who want the job. when appling they,ll have a rough idea of the budget available for players and what they could screw out of raj with their contract.

by **Eiphos_3** » Wed May 25, 2022 12:14 pm

The OS and Mail saying today we have a shortlist now and will be announced very soon

by **kevin pooles gloves** » Wed May 25, 2022 2:23 pm

Been quite a few rumours
.
It could be anyone
.
Mowbray with this much publicized excellent budget would be my choice.
But most probably be a Dog n Duck sunday league manager who gets the santasack for Xmas who dosent get the Budget.

by **poolie1** » Wed May 25, 2022 2:37 pm

gloves..."But most probably be a Dog n Duck sunday league manager"

..think he used to run the dog in duck tbh...should get on well then with our pub landlady rosie .... :laugh:

https://theathletic.com/3322579/2022/05 ... promotion/

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/rose-stoker-3722b850

by **Double Figures** » Wed May 25, 2022 5:26 pm

Announce Sol. He deserves a chance at a progressive club who can pay the wage bill every month, unlike Macclesfield and wherever else he was. 3 euros, 3 world cups, 2x premier league, 2 fa cups, 80 odd England caps. Can we forgive that one appearance at notts county tho I dunno?

by **ed-t-ball** » Wed May 25, 2022 5:41 pm

I hope we get a decision soon.

by **poolie1** » Wed May 25, 2022 5:46 pm

double.."3 euros, 3 world cups, 2x premier league, 2 fa cups, 80 odd England caps. Can we forgive that one appearance at notts county tho I dunno?"

..means jack shit....same as ravanelli.... :laugh:

by **Pooly_Imp** » Wed May 25, 2022 5:53 pm

ed-t-ball wrote:I hope we get a decision soon.

We have to work our way down the list to those hopelessly optimistic/desperate enough first.

by **Eiphos_3** » Wed May 25, 2022 6:38 pm

The fact there has been news today after Wilds halifax lost last night - gives even more suggestion for me it may be Wild. Has he taken that team as far as he can. Is prepared to have another crack at it and still be not guaranteed a promotion to the league. Has Raj converted his thinking that his career now best lies with an ambitious club like Pools with its strong following and hopefully chest of gold for new recruits ? All will be revealed soon so im told !

by **Bosh85** » Wed May 25, 2022 7:18 pm

Tomorrow is 3 weeks that Graeme Lee was sacked. It is now clear there hadn't been initial conversations with a new potential manager before Lee was sacked and we were starting from a clean slate (else it wouldn't have taken so long).

Its clear there were discussions with Hartley, both statements could be correct (from both Hartley and Pools). Pools held initial discussions with Hartley, from those discussions Hartley was the first to indicate it wouldn't be going further - Pools didn't ever offer him the role.

Todays statement about having a final shortlist is interesting given whats happened with two decent NL managers being dumped out of the playoffs.

It could be a slow process to sign a new manager from this point, it could be quick.

In his interview on 12th May Raj was clear he needed to get rid of Lee because of poor form and the pressure would build on Raj himself. This appointment is no different, the timing needs to be right and who it actually is, is critical after his previous mistake.

In that same interview he had said he hoped to have someone in place in 2 weeks time, which is Friday. Raj knows if we start to go beyond that we head into the realms of last summers poor recruitment which started on 19th June.

Me personally, I would like Wild. He has the right level of experience, passion and ambition - lets see if the situation and timing is right for him personally.

by **Snowy** » Wed May 25, 2022 7:49 pm

Pooly_Imp wrote:
ed-t-ball wrote:I hope we get a decision soon.

We have to work our way down the list to those hopelessly optimistic/desperate enough first.

I’m sure you’ll compose one for a small fee and hope one gets the job.

by **poolie1** » Wed May 25, 2022 7:51 pm

bosch..."Tomorrow is 3 weeks that Graeme Lee was sacked. It is now clear there hadn't been initial conversations with a new potential manager before Lee was sacked and we were starting from a clean slate (else it wouldn't have taken so long)."

...so how do you work that one out exactly ?..well possible that conversations had been had before bonehead sacked..a certain person maybe interested..ok...once bonehead is out the door 5/5/22 further discussions had..one or two big sticking points..parties go away..no you will have to accept this..nothing we can do about that..certain person eventually pissed off with it all and calls a halt....agent drops a line to the press as a thank you about a week or so later..pools already onto other people "going in a different direction" and say he was never offered the job..technically correct..no formal contract put in front of him to sign as didn't get that far...but that's about it....pools already on to plan b c or d when the hartley story hits the press..."It is now clear there hadn't been initial conversations with a new potential manager"..no think you might be possibly wrong there ...but i know nothing before you ask..

by **Bosh85** » Wed May 25, 2022 8:05 pm

Thats a lovely imagination.

Could be right. Lets see what Raj brings us!

by **poolie1** » Wed May 25, 2022 8:14 pm

"bosch..."Thats a lovely imagination."

..yep..."it is now clear"... it is as "lovely" as yours... :laugh:

by **kebab & chips** » Wed May 25, 2022 8:25 pm

Bosh85 wrote:Tomorrow is 3 weeks that Graeme Lee was sacked. It is now clear there hadn't been initial conversations with a new potential manager before Lee was sacked and we were starting from a clean slate (else it wouldn't have taken so long).

Its clear there were discussions with Hartley, both statements could be correct (from both Hartley and Pools). Pools held initial discussions with Hartley, from those discussions Hartley was the first to indicate it wouldn't be going further - Pools didn't ever offer him the role.

Todays statement about having a final shortlist is interesting given whats happened with two decent NL managers being dumped out of the playoffs.

It could be a slow process to sign a new manager from this point, it could be quick.

In his interview on 12th May Raj was clear he needed to get rid of Lee because of poor form and the pressure would build on Raj himself. This appointment is no different, the timing needs to be right and who it actually is, is critical after his previous mistake.

In that same interview he had said he hoped to have someone in place in 2 weeks time, which is Friday. Raj knows if we start to go beyond that we head into the realms of last summers poor recruitment which started on 19th June.

Me personally, I would like Wild. He has the right level of experience, passion and ambition - lets see if the situation and timing is right for him personally.

Passion? He looks a right miserable twat

by **poolie1** » Wed May 25, 2022 8:33 pm

bosch.."He has the right level of experience, passion and ambition "

...wild ?...you do realise that he has won nowt as a manager? .. and just like our head of recruitment has never actually played professional football ?..have a guess at how many league managers are not ex professional players.. :laugh:

by **Snowy** » Thu May 26, 2022 6:11 am

I find the timetable from Lee’s departure nothing unusual for having opened negotiations with a replacement before his departure. These things appear to come from nowhere but drag out contingent on multiple factors that hit obstacles from involved parties.

by **accrington fan** » Thu May 26, 2022 9:22 am

poolie1 wrote:
...wild ?...you do realise that he has won nowt as a manager? .. and just like our head of recruitment has never actually played professional football ?..have a guess at how many league managers are not ex professional players..

without looking i,ll give you one, john coleman at accrington. he,s not doing a bad job without ever playing full time pro football. we are looking for a manager and not someone who had a glittering playing career that means sod all in doing another job. wild did a decent job in a couple of caretaker spells at basket case oldham as well as competing well in the NL without a suger daddy. he is used to managing with a small budget which is what we need. even the most succesful manager who relies on a big cheque book would struggle at pools and plenty of others once its took away from them.

by **Jonnym4** » Thu May 26, 2022 9:46 am

accrington fan wrote:
poolie1 wrote:
...wild ?...you do realise that he has won nowt as a manager? .. and just like our head of recruitment has never actually played professional football ?..have a guess at how many league managers are not ex professional players..

without looking i,ll give you one, john coleman at accrington. he,s not doing a bad job without ever playing full time pro football. we are looking for a manager and not someone who had a glittering playing career that means sod all in doing another job. wild did a decent job in a couple of caretaker spells at basket case oldham as well as competing well in the NL without a suger daddy. he is used to managing with a small budget which is what we need. even the most succesful manager who relies on a big cheque book would struggle at pools and plenty of others once its took away from them.

I didn’t realise he hadn’t played professionally.

Others include (that I know of) in the EFL: Mark Bonner, Ben Garner, and Kieran McKenna.

Quite a few big name managers haven’t played either and whilst it’s not common I don’t think it’s a problem.

For what’s it’s worth I would be really disappointed if we got Wild.

by **Eiphos_3** » Thu May 26, 2022 10:04 am

My Postman tells me we are due for news tomorrow on the manager - his son works for the northern echo so im led to believe or the same office in which their press team are... something along those lines - Postys love a bit gossip.

anyways if it is Wild ... id hope he will bring with him the best of the Halifax players - some good lads in that side who id think would make it in the League

by **poolie1** » Thu May 26, 2022 10:32 am

accrington..."wild did a decent job in a couple of caretaker spells at basket case oldham as well as competing well in the NL without a suger daddy."

...useless himself as a player....but with that history of success as a manager...wow...just wow.. give the man the job... and you know...maybe our head of recruitment ...who was also useless as a player..but has a sports coaching degree ...could step up as his assistant ?..just a thought..

by **derwent** » Thu May 26, 2022 10:35 am

Midwives like a bit of gossip as well. I've just asked one what she's heard and I'm no further forward I'm afraid. I'll keep trying though.

Maybe Pooly Imp is a postman

I wonder if he's called Pat.

by **Bluestreak** » Thu May 26, 2022 10:58 am

Petrol pump attendants were always a good source of information.
Anyone know one?

by **billinghampoolie1908** » Thu May 26, 2022 11:01 am

I hope this manager realises Nelson is still at the club, before he takes it. Whoever it is will need to be an expert at working with a shoestring, so you would have to think wild would be favourite.

by **Krampesh** » Thu May 26, 2022 11:09 am

poolie1 wrote:accrington..."wild did a decent job in a couple of caretaker spells at basket case oldham as well as competing well in the NL without a suger daddy."

...useless himself as a player....but with that history of success as a manager...wow...just wow.. give the man the job... and you know...maybe our head of recruitment ...who was also useless as a player..but has a sports coaching degree ...could step up as his assistant ?..just a thought..

Recent Hartlepool managers with 'successful' playing careers include Colin Cooper and Matty Bates so unsure what your point is?
Pete Wild has a 46% win rate in the division below with a side with a bottom half budget. Thats roughly the same win rate as Challinor got with us. I appreciate everyone will want different managers and not everyone will be able to agree on them which is fine but who would you want as the next manager?
Your agenda against the Head of Recruitment is also ridiculous

by **poolie1** » Thu May 26, 2022 11:12 am

billy.."I hope this manager realises Nelson is still at the club, before he takes it"

..just why is this bonehead still at our club? ..he was appointed with his bonehead mate and if he had any decency about him he would have walked himself like most do...not him though...

by **poolie1** » Thu May 26, 2022 11:19 am

pesh.."your agenda against the Head of Recruitment is also ridiculous"

..i respect your opinion...but no his appointment is ridiculous imo..like a few others at the club who are there because of who they know..it stinks tbh..

by **Krampesh** » Thu May 26, 2022 11:27 am

poolie1 wrote:pesh.."your agenda against the Head of Recruitment is also ridiculous"

..i respect your opinion...but no his appointment is ridiculous imo..like a few others at the club who are there because of who they know..it stinks tbh..

He was a Lee appointment that is obvious. However he was also at Rotherham in a similar role so he obviously has something about him. Bradford appointed a HoR from Middlesbrough who also hasn't played football and they've been making what their fans think are good signings.
If you're on about Nelson as one of the others then I'm with you. He should've gone after the final game of the season and if he's still here next season I will not be happy

by **poolie1** » Thu May 26, 2022 11:34 am

pesh.....do you know good old bevo ?..good pal to have if you want a job ain't he..connections like?

by **Eiphos_3** » Thu May 26, 2022 11:38 am

derwent wrote:Midwives like a bit of gossip as well. I've just asked one what she's heard and I'm no further forward I'm afraid. I'll keep trying though.

Maybe Pooly Imp is a postman
I wonder if he's called Pat.

Im not hanging on Postman Eds every word here btw... just thought id let the board know what ramblings are going on throughout other channels of gossip within the town - the guys been going with his son the last 10 years and himself a season ticket holder probably over 20 - Again he didnt say names just an announcement to be had - could be the chip fryers fixed who knows might be feck all ! :character-smurfguy:

but yeh Nelson needs to go too fully still agree with that - cant see an experienced manager coming in and wanting him as his No.2.
Bit like if anyones ever been in the position within their working lifes where your day job get marred with having the apprentice for the week and all you find yourself doing is looking for the little bugger or telling him off. :hand:

by **Krampesh** » Thu May 26, 2022 11:44 am

poolie1 wrote:pesh.....do you know good old bevo ?..good pal to have if you want a job ain't he..connections like?

But who has he brought in? I've seen people linking Andy Woodman to us and him but I'm unsure how they're connected

by **poolie1** » Thu May 26, 2022 11:55 am

pesh....press officer at the fa... gibbos mate and head of recruitment at borer..gets you knowing an awful lot of "good lads" dont it ?

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by **Critical Thinking** » Thu May 26, 2022 1:01 pm

derwent wrote:Midwives like a bit of gossip as well. I've just asked one what she's heard and I'm no further forward I'm afraid. I'll keep trying though.

Maybe Pooly Imp is a postman
I wonder if he's called Pat.

I thought Midwives were used to looking at C--ts and we don't want one of those do we Mr. D.

by **poolie1** » Thu May 26, 2022 1:18 pm

..why oh why use the word "exciting".... just invites this kind of thinly disguised ridicule and piss takes from the radio tees borer media crew...have you heard the latest mate..pools...yes pools ..say they have an "exciting" short list for their managers job.. snigger snigger..yeah .."exciting"..bit of a laugh aint it? ...ffs..

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport ... ley-ruled/

https://en-gb.facebook.com/bbctees/vide ... 190106394/

by **billinghampoolie1908** » Thu May 26, 2022 1:57 pm

[quote="poolie1"]billy.."I hope this manager realises Nelson is still at the club, before he takes it"

..just why is this bonehead still at our club? ..he was appointed with his bonehead mate and if he had any decency about him he would have walked himself like most do...not him though...

Maybe on a slightly different contract to Lee hence why he is still there. Not sure what the club are thinking having him still there? His record is nothing short of shocking.

by **Double Figures** » Thu May 26, 2022 8:35 pm

Just one more reason to give Sol a chance. There’s a. Song there somewhere. Come on Poolie 1 who would you want to play for Sol or Ravanelli.

by **Optimistic** » Thu May 26, 2022 8:52 pm

Peter Wild just left Halifax

by **poolie1** » Thu May 26, 2022 9:01 pm

..a "very credible record"...definitely not "exciting"...on leaving hope he heads northwest..

https://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/ ... er-3710903

https://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/20142711 ... k-manager/

by **Double Figures** » Thu May 26, 2022 9:18 pm

Announce Sol. We need a winners mentality. Plus he’d love Portugal. UTP

by **billinghampoolie1908** » Thu May 26, 2022 9:30 pm

Barrow to announce new manager tommorow. Sounds like it will be wild.

by **thebigdog** » Thu May 26, 2022 9:50 pm

WILD TO BARROW. TOMORROW.

by **kevin pooles gloves** » Fri May 27, 2022 5:46 am

thebigdog wrote:WILD TO BARROW. TOMORROW.

Hopefully

by **Snowy** » Fri May 27, 2022 5:49 am

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Maybe on a slightly different contract to Lee hence why he is still there. Not sure what the club are thinking having him still there? His record is nothing short of shocking.

Maybe he’s waiting to start his new role and turnstile training hasn’t started yet….?

by **Snowy** » Fri May 27, 2022 5:55 am

poolie1 wrote:..a "very credible record"...definitely not "exciting"...on leaving hope he heads northwest..

https://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/ ... er-3710903

https://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/20142711 ... k-manager/

Never realised Phil Brown left Barrow because they couldn’t agree terms…..were Barrow a bit tight with the cash as well.
The report from the local Halifax paper was in true local paper tribute style, nothing of any consequence and full of fluff, rainbows and unicorns, probably give a Hitler a sympathetic farewell.

by **billinghampoolie1908** » Fri May 27, 2022 7:19 am

So far we have a Scottish manager from cove rangers, that football giant apparently knocking us back. Now we have a guy who is supposedly on the short list, going to some football giants in the north west, add to Challinor last year publicly coming out and saying what was offered could be classed as derogrotory and you start to get some sort of impression, were struggling to attract or keep anyone.

This exciting short probobly includes someone from the league of Wales, a northern league manager who has hardly won a match and an under 23 manager from the faroe isles.

by **kevin pooles gloves** » Fri May 27, 2022 8:23 am

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:Barrow to announce new manager tommorow. Sounds like it will be wild.

Could be that Wild is thinking a 2 year contract at Barrow will get honored while a 2 year contract at Pools could end at 5 months
3 weeks
6 days
23 hours
59 seconds.
Add in the promise of a excellent budget that is just shitcrack then its a nobrainer decision.
:angry-tappingfoot:

by **kevin pooles gloves** » Fri May 27, 2022 8:26 am

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:So far we have a Scottish manager from cove rangers, that football giant apparently knocking us back. Now we have a guy who is supposedly on the short list, going to some football giants in the north west, add to Challinor last year publicly coming out and saying what was offered could be classed as derogrotory and you start to get some sort of impression, were struggling to attract or keep anyone.

This exciting short probobly includes someone from the league of Wales, a northern league manager who has hardly won a match and an under 23 manager from the faroe isles.

A club with 5000 fans should have a tad more Ambition

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