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Election result
Conservative majority of more than 50 8%  8%  [ 4 ]
Conservative majority of 10 - 50 46%  46%  [ 23 ]
Hung parliament 36%  36%  [ 18 ]
Labour majority of 10 - 50 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
Labour majority of 50+ 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Liberal Majority 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 50
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 Post subject: Re: Election Predictions
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:49 pm 
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Johnson is a racist, there isn't any doubt about that surely?

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 Post subject: Re: Election Predictions
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I’m not sure why he’s still hanging around but I noticed something rather interesting the other day. One leader came out and condemned the anti Semitic graffiti and stabbings at a synagogue in New York; Corbyn.

Imagine how the Tories would have used that pre December 12th? Not a comment now. A clear example of the cynicism and the propaganda used to win this election. The Tories actually hired two New Zealanders to coordinate this online shitstorm while Labour were putting out slick videos that probably cost a fortune the Tories were busy trolling the Internet with outright lies, half truths and hashtags like #neverCorbyn and #getbrexitdone.

This really needs better regulation next time we go the polls as as it’s very dangerous and very effective. A lot of people believe without question what they read online.


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 Post subject: Re: Election Predictions
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:10 am 
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Go Ask Alice wrote:

There is no such thing as the far right.

The media has invented this bogey man, and fools like you fall for this bollocks.


Aye, misunderstood bunch of cracking lads Tommy and his crew. They did my mates garden last week, weird how they kept burying pig heads in the holes though.


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 Post subject: Re: Election Predictions
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:18 am 
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Crushed on Election Day .Will the minority ever stop whinging?


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 Post subject: Re: Election Predictions
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:26 am 
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PJPoolie wrote:
. One leader came out and condemned the anti Semitic graffiti and stabbings at a synagogue in New York; Corbyn.

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Worried about the EHRC and Police investigations into the Labour Party ??


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 Post subject: Re: Election Predictions
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:34 am 
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Deeply worried yes, it has caused me many sleepless nights. It’s possibly the most worrying thing on a personal level I have had to encounter. Either way I just want a conclusion now so I can get on with rebuilding my life.


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 Post subject: Re: Election Predictions
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:20 pm 
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Tory minister Nick Ramsey has been arrested and suspended from the party. Wonder if this was because he told the truth about something


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 Post subject: Re: Election Predictions
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:41 pm 
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MadJohn wrote:
Nonsense. He didn't magic anything. He said immediately that they did not have the money for it, and that it was not costed in the manfesto. For that reason it was merely an aspiration rather than a hard policy. The money would have to have been borrowed. That was made clear.

He and McDonnell gave a clear impression that those women would be paid. Weasling out of it by using phrases such as 'moral debt' is pathetic. McDonnell claimed that it would be paid over five years. Are you seriously claiming that Labour didn't indicate to these women that they would be compensated?

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Yes Others met with McGuiness and Adams but Corbyn and his ilk actively supported them.

No amount of wishing on your behalf will make that true. Sympathising with republicanism does not equate to supporting terrorists.

Are you serious? Even Tony Blair condemned him for inviting Adams to Westminster less than a week after the Brighton bombing. I could post pages of evidence but you already know its out there

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His pathetic attempt to continue to smear Boris with an NHS sell off looked increasingly desperate the more he continued with it.
We can only file that one under "watch this space" for now.

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Brexit: labours position was simply laughable and undefendable.

It was certainly the hill that they died on, or at least the hill where they took the most damage. They misread the public. The public did not vote for a no-deal Brexit. That is undeniably true. But what Labour misunderstood for me was a large chunk of the public simply did not care. I've spoken to enough people over the last few years who were utterly convinced that we would get a brilliant deal from the EU, and that we held all of the cards to make that deal a reality. Those exact same people are now the ones who are telling me that it didn't mention anything about a deal on the ballot paper! By trying to say that they would negotiate a better deal but give people the choice about whether or not to accept it, the Labour campaign painted itself into a corner. It left them wide open for Johnson to accuse them of delay (breathtaking when you consider that few people did more to delay Brexit than ABdP Johnson), and also open to accusations of "trying to take your Brexit away". It was a no-win for them (the membership support Remain; the country had voted Leave), but it was another area where they could be made to look indecisive in the face of Tory certainty.

I agree with your overall point.
Boris understood the psychology. 'Get Brexit Done'. worked. Stopping uncertainty worked. Labour's fence sitting turned voters off. So by the way did the outright revoke party.

The only demonstrable and incontrovertible evidence out there is the results of referendums and elections.



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 Post subject: Re: Election Predictions
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:48 pm 
What uncertainty has he got rid of? For a lot of people in work he has created a whole new level of uncertainty.

Get Brexit done is just words. Very cheap ones.

Yes a lot have fallen for it. Especially when you consider johnson has a history of not believing it.


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 Post subject: Re: Election Predictions
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Certainty in that it will happen. With a majority of 80 Boris can achieve anything he desires so the world of business can plan knowing that Brexit will happen on the 31st January. Of course there will be further negotiations after that but the will we / won't we stuff is over.

Ultimately Boris will be better for the likes of Hartlepool that any previous PM. I'm sick of saying it but he is very much slightly right of centre and the investment will go to the areas of decline. He won his majority by getting the nod from the working class, he's not daft and knows he has to deliver.


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 Post subject: Re: Election Predictions
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:21 pm 
What investments? Seriously? Brexit isn't going to create any. Johnson has to look after the areas that gave him this mandate. Hartlepool isn't one of them. And which tory strongholds are going to reduce their own investments to pay for the bribes needed in the north?

He hasn't thought this through as he? Or is he going to find the money forest that a few on here accused the labour party of having?


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 Post subject: Re: Election Predictions
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Not long now before the whole of the EU starts falling apart.


Tony Benn did warn you.


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 Post subject: Re: Election Predictions
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:03 pm 
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Watching from afar wrote:
What investments? Seriously? Brexit isn't going to create any. Johnson has to look after the areas that gave him this mandate. Hartlepool isn't one of them. And which tory strongholds are going to reduce their own investments to pay for the bribes needed in the north?

He hasn't thought this through as he? Or is he going to find the money forest that a few on here accused the labour party of having?


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 Post subject: Re: Election Predictions
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PJPoolie wrote:
I’m not sure why he’s still hanging around but I noticed something rather interesting the other day. One leader came out and condemned the anti Semitic graffiti and stabbings at a synagogue in New York; Corbyn.

Imagine how the Tories would have used that pre December 12th? Not a comment now. A clear example of the cynicism and the propaganda used to win this election. The Tories actually hired two New Zealanders to coordinate this online shitstorm while Labour were putting out slick videos that probably cost a fortune the Tories were busy trolling the Internet with outright lies, half truths and hashtags like #neverCorbyn and #getbrexitdone.

This really needs better regulation next time we go the polls as as it’s very dangerous and very effective. A lot of people believe without question what they read online.

Where did you hear about this PJ ?


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 Post subject: Re: Election Predictions
PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:33 pm 
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Go Ask Alice wrote:

There is no such thing as the far right.

The media has invented this bogey man, and fools like you fall for this bollocks.


Aye, misunderstood bunch of cracking lads Tommy and his crew. They did my mates garden last week, weird how they kept burying pig heads in the holes though.


Tommy Robinson is a bell-end.

But this ''far right'' is a spent force that has no hope in Hell of ever getting elected - so why the hysteria about them...?

They are totally insignificant - and yet they get the oxygen of publicity.

People need to stay of the internet, and get down the pub more often...


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 Post subject: Re: Election Predictions
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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
Certainty in that it will happen. With a majority of 80 Boris can achieve anything he desires so the world of business can plan knowing that Brexit will happen on the 31st January. Of course there will be further negotiations after that but the will we / won't we stuff is over.


No, what will happen on 31st January is that we will officially cease to be part of the EU, and enter a Transition Period that Boris himself is putting into law has to end at the end of 2020. At that point, if we do not have a compehensive free trade deal, then the consequences for business kick in then. He has given himself 11 months to negotiate a trade deal with our largest trading partner, who historically spend years negotiating trade deals; simultaneously, unless he's prepared to go for the Customs Union/Single Market approach (poison to the ERG, Farage etc) he's also got to negotiate deals with the many other nations that we currently have trade deals with through being part of the EU Single Market. To say the least, that's a challenging timetable - and the consequences if he fails are almost identical to a No-Deal Brexit, unless he's prepared to change the law again to give himself more time to do it.


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 Post subject: Re: Election Predictions
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:44 pm 
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The bunker now seems to be called the boris appreciation society??
Can a moderator please do something about this. Maybe Jeff sterling?

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 Post subject: Re: Election Predictions
PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:09 am 
It's quite alarming isn't it. That anyone would consider any MP to be deserving of first name status. The fella is an MP and by definition will be a conniving lying git. At best. Yet intelligent people seem to consider him to be some sort of lovable geezer


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 Post subject: Re: Election Predictions
PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:48 am 
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He’s a self styled character nothing about the man is honest or genuine it was all about building an image and reaching his personal end goal of becoming Prime Minister. You have got to sort of admire him on some level as it’s actually worked.

Even the way he dresses when he goes out for run is contrived as he knows he’ll be pictured. It’s probably easier to just buy some normal running gear than the change into public school Rugby shirt loud shorts and odd socks. His hair as well, look at Boris what a character. It all distracts from the reality of what type of man he actually is.

He can’t actually hide behind that anymore now though it’s over to him. It probably doesn’t really bother him though you get the impression he just wanted to be Prime Minister and he’s done that now.

Away from this glare pretty much nobody who has had dealings with the real person has a good word to say about him from the women in his life who he’s treat appallingly to university where he ripped up £50 notes in front of homeless people.

If you were building a Twat you could skip all the hassle and just use all of him.


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 Post subject: Re: Election Predictions
PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:20 am 
The most sickening thing though isnt that people fell for it all or even that Johnson is what he is. The worst part is that the vast majority of people know exactly what he is but actually dont care. Its all fine becuase its Johnson. In the modern world the moral compass bar is set that low now it no longer matters.


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