Joe Grey

[Grayhoundend]

Bradford City creeping up, Will they be willing to pay compo though.

[Splod]

I thought he could sign for another club and if the clubs can't agree a fee then it goes to a tribunal. Given his goal scoring/assists record in the EFL and NL I can't see him being valued at £100k. Its a risk that a signing club might not be prepared to take. A guide would be how much we paid for the lad from Barnet. The league will know even if we don't.

[Flying Hogans]

I thought he could sign for another club and if the clubs can't agree a fee then it goes to a tribunal. Given his goal scoring/assists record in the EFL and NL I can't see him being valued at £100k. Its a risk that a signing club might not be prepared to take. A guide would be how much we paid for the lad from Barnet. The league will know even if we don't.

If there really are several League One clubs interested, it's up to one of them to make a decent compensation offer that Pools are willing to accept. An interested club holding out for a tribunal to set the figure could end up paying a lot more.

At the minute, seeing is believing. Meanwhile, it's less than a month till the EFL season starts...

[Grayhoundend]

I thought he could sign for another club and if the clubs can't agree a fee then it goes to a tribunal. Given his goal scoring/assists record in the EFL and NL I can't see him being valued at £100k. Its a risk that a signing club might not be prepared to take. A guide would be how much we paid for the lad from Barnet. The league will know even if we don't.

It does go to a tribunal but will still be about 70-80K

[JohnnyMars]

I don’t believe any League One side would be interested. His goal scoring record, even in non-league for us, is far from impressive. He never looks fully fit to me and is too easily pushed off the ball. The only thing going for him is his age, and the fact he might improve and get fit.

[Ozzy Saltburn]

I don’t believe and League One side would be interested. His goal scoring record, even in non-league for us, is far from impressive. He never looks fully fit to me and is too easily pushed off the ball. The only thing going for him is his age, and the fact he might improve and get fit.

Agreed. Of course, this begs the question what happens to Joe's career? I could imagine an NL or EFL 2 club signing him for nothing but I cant imagine anyone offering a fee for him. Would he sign for Pools as a last resort (after all, he has bills to pay like the rest of us) and try and prove himself?

[Snowy]

Going on the stats, he’s nothing exceptional to other clubs…what we see is not what others see.

[PTID]

Hasn't really improved in the last couple of years imo. Possibly because he's not been playing where he's most effective, he's also been in and out of the side.
When a lot of clubs are now using stats when considering signing new players, he's not really shown himself to be worth a £70k punt.

[Jamie1952]

Hasn’t trained properly for weeks so where ever he goes or stays he won’t be match fit, as I said his head being turned by an agent touting him to clubs in the EFL who don’t appear to be interested in signing him.

[kevin pooles gloves]

He's a lot better than staying at Pools.

Lets not worship the always injured Mancini then slate Joe.

We forcing him out the club to make a few quid.

Somebody else's gain will be our loss and for sure a downgraded replacement will be on its way.

[JohnnyMars]

Even though I won’t be going (while a certain person is still in control), I’d like to see Joe Gray get fit, play every game and steadily improve. Under the right manager I still think he could do well for us.

[accrington fan]

Even though I won’t be going (while a certain person is still in control), I’d like to see Joe Gray get fit, play every game and steadily improve. Under the right manager I still think he could do well for us.

the thing is he hasn,t improved like many expected him to do apart from the odd game. injuries have not helped him but neither have managers who to be fair like me do not actually know what his best position on the pitch really is.

[accrington fan]

Bradford City creeping up, Will they be willing to pay compo though.

even with a good owner i,d hate pools to be doing that if we were in league div.1 for a similar player.

[Flying Hogans]

If Pools wanted to cash in on Joe they'd have done it at the end of last season. Think a few people have forgotten how good he was for Askey and Phillips - 13 goals, 10 assists, more often than not playing alongside Mani in a front two.

He spent most of last season stuck out wide right or wide left - not his best position at all, especially wide left. Cleary came in and showed how it was done. Blame the second or third-rate managers we had last term.

[accrington fan]

If Pools wanted to cash in on Joe they'd have done it at the end of last season. Think a few people have forgotten how good he was for Askey and Phillips - 13 goals, 10 assists, more often than not playing alongside Mani in a front two.

He spent most of last season stuck out wide right or wide left - not his best position at all, especially wide left. Cleary came in and showed how it was done. Blame the second or third-rate managers we had last term.

got a point there. that was his best part of his career with us but managers were obsessed by the manni/ madine partnership that never came off. however players need to fill in the gaps caused with injuries and he was not the only player asked to do a job they were not at there best doing.

[kevin pooles gloves]

If Pools wanted to cash in on Joe they'd have done it at the end of last season. Think a few people have forgotten how good he was for Askey and Phillips - 13 goals, 10 assists, more often than not playing alongside Mani in a front two.

He spent most of last season stuck out wide right or wide left - not his best position at all, especially wide left. Cleary came in and showed how it was done. Blame the second or third-rate managers we had last term.

got a point there. that was his best part of his career with us but managers were obsessed by the manni/ madine partnership that never came off. however players need to fill in the gaps caused with injuries and he was not the only player asked to do a job they were not at there best doing.

And let's not forget his goal v Blackpool to set up a Palace money spinner for you know who.

When fully fit which he will get back to and in a decent team he will be Awesome.

[accrington fan]

If Pools wanted to cash in on Joe they'd have done it at the end of last season. Think a few people have forgotten how good he was for Askey and Phillips - 13 goals, 10 assists, more often than not playing alongside Mani in a front two.

He spent most of last season stuck out wide right or wide left - not his best position at all, especially wide left. Cleary came in and showed how it was done. Blame the second or third-rate managers we had last term.

got a point there. that was his best part of his career with us but managers were obsessed by the manni/ madine partnership that never came off. however players need to fill in the gaps caused with injuries and he was not the only player asked to do a job they were not at there best doing.

And let's not forget his goal v Blackpool to set up a Palace money spinner for you know who.

When fully fit which he will get back to and in a decent team he will be Awesome.

think awesome is a bit much. at best one of those players who can good in a good side but not as good in a poor one. its not knocking the lad but a fact for many.

[Rinkender]

Played in Yorks two pre season games as a trialist was told.

[Kettering Poolie]

Played in Yorks two pre season games as a trialist was told.

That's disappointing if true- may as well have stayed at Pools

[PTID]

If that's true it would suggest there's very little interest in him. Would've thought York would know enough about him to not need him convinced them in trial games.
Can see him ending up at Gateshead or coming back here capable in hand yet.

[Ozzy Saltburn]

Played in Yorks two pre season games as a trialist was told.

If this is true I guess it is no surprise. York could afford a fee but of course it will all depend if he performs well enough in the trial games. Is he good enough? That is the crux.

[accrington fan]

Played in Yorks two pre season games as a trialist was told.

If this is true I guess it is no surprise. York could afford a fee but of course it will all depend if he performs well enough in the trial games. Is he good enough? That is the crux.

or good enough but not quite good enough to pay money for.

[Ozzy Saltburn]

If that's true it would suggest there's very little interest in him. Would've thought York would know enough about him to not need him convinced them in trial games.
Can see him ending up at Gateshead or coming back here capable in hand yet.

Do Gateshead have the funds to pay the six figure fee being mentioned? Their signings tend to be loans and free agents.

[bobby lemonade]

Played in Yorks two pre season games as a trialist was told.

That's disappointing if true- may as well have stayed at Pools

Maybe, but he'd be on a bigger wage at York and I'm pretty sure they'll be in League 2 next season. It's a stepping stone of sorts.

[kevin pooles gloves]

Played in Yorks two pre season games as a trialist was told.

That's disappointing if true- may as well have stayed at Pools

Maybe, but he'd be on a bigger wage at York and I'm pretty sure they'll be in League 2 next season. It's a stepping stone of sorts.

Why are others not seeing this basic strategy

[Grayhoundend]

Played in Yorks two pre season games as a trialist was told.

That's disappointing if true- may as well have stayed at Pools

Maybe, but he'd be on a bigger wage at York and I'm pretty sure they'll be in League 2 next season. It's a stepping stone of sorts.

Why are others not seeing this basic strategy

C,mon Kevin spell it out, You know you want to.

[paulus the woodgnome and a side salad]

Played in Yorks two pre season games as a trialist was told.

Well I watched most of Yorks friendly v Garforth Town on YouTube yesterday and didn't notice Grey playing, btw York lost 1-0 to a comical goal and were really poor from what I saw, Garforth were all over them second half and should have scored more.

[Ozzy Saltburn]

A long period of no news and very few rumours would suggest few if any clubs are prepared to pay a fee for Grey because he is not that good. Of course he has potential and would certainly do a decent job for a NL or League Two team but there are lots of players like that who are available and who dont command a six figure fee or indeed any kind of fee.

[accrington fan]

A long period of no news and very few rumours would suggest few if any clubs are prepared to pay a fee for Grey because he is not that good. Of course he has potential and would certainly do a decent job for a NL or League Two team but there are lots of players like that who are available and who dont command a six figure fee or indeed any kind of fee.

but where does this leave joe himself. wants away but at this moment of time he cannot get away. then what do pools actually do. will they help him by waving what might be owing to them to help the lad get what he wants or force him back with us being his only option. expect the club to atte,pt to screw every penny they can get out of him and not help his career to be left with a player on the books who does not want to be here. not actually encouraging young lads in the future to come to pools is it.

[Pooly_Imp]

A long period of no news and very few rumours would suggest few if any clubs are prepared to pay a fee for Grey because he is not that good. Of course he has potential and would certainly do a decent job for a NL or League Two team but there are lots of players like that who are available and who dont command a six figure fee or indeed any kind of fee.

but where does this leave joe himself. wants away but at this moment of time he cannot get away. then what do pools actually do. will they help him by waving what might be owing to them to help the lad get what he wants or force him back with us being his only option. expect the club to atte,pt to screw every penny they can get out of him and not help his career to be left with a player on the books who does not want to be here. not actually encouraging young lads in the future to come to pools is it.

If nobody wants to pay the compo he'll have three options.

1. Take a break from football and do summat else.
2. Sign a contract at Pools
3. Play outside of England.

[accrington fan]

A long period of no news and very few rumours would suggest few if any clubs are prepared to pay a fee for Grey because he is not that good. Of course he has potential and would certainly do a decent job for a NL or League Two team but there are lots of players like that who are available and who dont command a six figure fee or indeed any kind of fee.

but where does this leave joe himself. wants away but at this moment of time he cannot get away. then what do pools actually do. will they help him by waving what might be owing to them to help the lad get what he wants or force him back with us being his only option. expect the club to atte,pt to screw every penny they can get out of him and not help his career to be left with a player on the books who does not want to be here. not actually encouraging young lads in the future to come to pools is it.

If nobody wants to pay the compo he'll have three options.

1. Take a break from football and do summat else.
2. Sign a contract at Pools
3. Play outside of England.

surely there should be an option 4 somewhere for a player in the same boat as him. we have had the bosman ruling that has cost clubs thousands over the years and what next. knowing pools they,ll get even more bad publicity if EUFA or FIFA bring in the Grey ruling for future players in a similar position.

[Pooly_Imp]

A long period of no news and very few rumours would suggest few if any clubs are prepared to pay a fee for Grey because he is not that good. Of course he has potential and would certainly do a decent job for a NL or League Two team but there are lots of players like that who are available and who dont command a six figure fee or indeed any kind of fee.

but where does this leave joe himself. wants away but at this moment of time he cannot get away. then what do pools actually do. will they help him by waving what might be owing to them to help the lad get what he wants or force him back with us being his only option. expect the club to atte,pt to screw every penny they can get out of him and not help his career to be left with a player on the books who does not want to be here. not actually encouraging young lads in the future to come to pools is it.

If nobody wants to pay the compo he'll have three options.

1. Take a break from football and do summat else.
2. Sign a contract at Pools
3. Play outside of England.

surely there should be an option 4 somewhere for a player in the same boat as him. we have had the bosman ruling that has cost clubs thousands over the years and what next. knowing pools they,ll get even more bad publicity if EUFA or FIFA bring in the Grey ruling for future players in a similar position.

Not that I can find. I think the options are that stark.

[PTID]

Can't see anyone paying the compo, he's not really shown himself worthy of effectively a fee to be fair.
Wonder how much compo Barnsley will need to pay WBA for Cleary. Apparently Cleary made it known he was leaving WBA so they made him an offer to make sure they get something for him.

[accrington fan]

Can't see anyone paying the compo, he's not really shown himself worthy of effectively a fee to be fair.
Wonder how much compo Barnsley will need to pay WBA for Cleary. Apparently Cleary made it known he was leaving WBA so they made him an offer to make sure they get something for him.

does the fee vary depending on the level players end up. what might look chicken feed for a league 1 club is a big lump out of the budget of national league clubs.

[billinghampoolie1908]

Not sure grey is good enough. Potential is there but rarely does it. Saying that he will probably still be a step up on who we bring in.

[Jamie1952]

There can’t be a rush of clubs to sign him or he might be spoiled for choice and can’t make his mind up, leaving it late only 4 weeks till the season starts.

[paulus the woodgnome and a side salad]

I hope he stays with us, I like the lad and always gives 100%, I think he'll get better season on season, only drawback might be his injury record.

[Snowy]

Whatever he does, can he just just make his mind up….it’s getting irritating.

[Kettering Poolie]

Well I think he'll either end up back at Pools or go abroad for nowt for a season or two.
Let's not forget he must have played about 150 games plus for us- so any tribunal would have to take that into consideration. Think he needs to sack his agent as he's made him look a right twat!

[Snowy]

Thing is, if he ends up back here, is he here because he wants to be here or because he had no other option, which sort of spoils it for me.

[PTID]

If he does re-sign for us isn't he just prolonging his stagnation? Is it over 25 years after which the development clause expires?

[Bluestreak]

Its like the Mousetrap this saga. Hope hes keeping fit?

[Rinkender]

Joe Grey has an agent who is no doubt doing the rounds with the video clips, ‘looking after his player’ Will be more lucrative for the agent if he moves on.

[Ozzy Saltburn]

Joe Grey has an agent who is no doubt doing the rounds with the video clips, ‘looking after his player’ Will be more lucrative for the agent if he moves on.

Meanwhile Joe has no income. Dunno if he still lives with family, if not he will have bills to pay.

[Bluestreak]

Joe Grey has an agent who is no doubt doing the rounds with the video clips, ‘looking after his player’ Will be more lucrative for the agent if he moves on.

Meanwhile Joe has no income. Dunno if he still lives with family, if not he will have bills to pay.

I saw a bloke who looked like him in a tent on the waste ground near the Vic?

[Ozzy Saltburn]

Joe Grey has an agent who is no doubt doing the rounds with the video clips, ‘looking after his player’ Will be more lucrative for the agent if he moves on.

Meanwhile Joe has no income. Dunno if he still lives with family, if not he will have bills to pay.

I saw a bloke who looked like him in a tent on the waste ground near the Vic?

Probably his brother Jake. I understand he's employed as Joe's agent. He went to Dyke House.

[Snowy]

Joe Grey has an agent who is no doubt doing the rounds with the video clips, ‘looking after his player’ Will be more lucrative for the agent if he moves on.

Meanwhile Joe has no income. Dunno if he still lives with family, if not he will have bills to pay.

I saw a bloke who looked like him in a tent on the waste ground near the Vic?

Could be the Big Chief of the Taykova Tribe Big Chief Uptheleeg who is apparently interested…’Chief Buffalo Breath’ and Chief ‘Cock Eyed Crow ‘will join him with a bid of 4,000 buffalo shortly.

[kevin pooles gloves]

Joe Grey has an agent who is no doubt doing the rounds with the video clips, ‘looking after his player’ Will be more lucrative for the agent if he moves on.

Meanwhile Joe has no income. Dunno if he still lives with family, if not he will have bills to pay.

I'm sure Radgy will of gave him some of the cup runs money for scoring the winning goal v Blackpool.

[Ryedale Red]

Played in Yorks two pre season games as a trialist was told.

Well I watched most of Yorks friendly v Garforth Town on YouTube yesterday and didn't notice Grey playing, btw York lost 1-0 to a comical goal and were really poor from what I saw, Garforth were all over them second half and should have scored more.

Because the first team didn't play, the York squad was made of players not near the first team, and academy players. Your boy definitely did not play as a trialist in either if our two games.

[Poolie24]

Joe Grey has an agent who is no doubt doing the rounds with the video clips, ‘looking after his player’ Will be more lucrative for the agent if he moves on.

Meanwhile Joe has no income. Dunno if he still lives with family, if not he will have bills to pay.

His Father was involved in one of the consortiums to buy Pools by all accounts, I’d imagine he’s not short of a few bob…!

It looks like he’s about to sign for York within next few days or so.