The Poolie Bunker

We are only taking Trumps word Iran were again rebuilding a nuclear capability, you have a short memory Snowy remember Iraq and the weapons of mass destruction, non existent. This is not about destroying Irans nuclear capability and regime change, he doesn’t give a f**k about Iranian citizens, he has already said he has no love for Muslims.its about Trumps ego. One in four Americans don’t support Trumps actions another smoke screen to cover up his involvement with Epstein and the files.

Yes the Americans will not be the most welcome in these countries now, well done Trump and Israel.

Why get involved, we have enough problems with asylum seekers from Iran, they will be a few more boatloads arriving, Trump slapping tariffs on everyone, why should we do him any favours ?

We didn’t have to get involved…all the yanks wanted was to use our bases…the Iranians are shooting up every one in the area like the loony tunes they are.

Using our bases will be interpreted as getting involved Snowy.

Exiled Iranians seem to be welcoming Trumps actions,Jamie.He has their full support!.

I strongly suspect the Israelis/Americans have asked these relatively friendly Arab states to keep out of the conflict in order to avoid the mayhem that Iran is trying to foment by firing missiles indiscriminately.

The Israelis have a very good intelligence network and are highly likely to share this intelligence with the US who are their number one ally. The Israelis have a pretty good idea of what the Iranians are building and what they are up to in general. Israeli intelligence was the reason that the Iranian leadership were 'terminated'. The Israelis knew precisely where thet were so they could be unalived.

The Israeli intelligence was so good that they didn't know Hamas was going to attack them in October 2024!

The attack was made using very basic weaponry and a case of jumping over the border, causing mayhem and legging is back sharpish, maybe the Israeli’s thought that while such a thing is possible so they wouldn’t try it because of the retribution….now I wonder why they did it when they knew what the outcome would be…unless they wanted it to happen that way. I wonder why…?

No organisation or individual is infallible.

I've given up trying to understand the mentality of countries in the Middle East. Just keep em all at arms length.

Good idea. …pity we can’t tow them to the South Pole region, they’d be that busy keeping warm they’d have little time for owt else…they won’t be able to cause too much trouble with a snowball fight…although maybe not, knowing them.

Trump would bomb them for threatening snowballs of mass destruction

Even Starmer said the security services have prevented 20 attacks by Iranian sponsored terrorists in the UK over a period of the last few months. Allowing them to continue to develop nukes, sponsor and support the Houthis, Hamad, Hezbollah, etc would be utter stupidity.

Aye, they’d be enriching the snow to create weapons grade snowballs…and their Supreme Leader would be the Santatollah…..who comes to your house every Xmas and puts a grenade down the chimney.

Think the Israels knew and expected it, And said thanks, NOW deal with the aftermath.

They always expect it, that’s how they survive.

yes. conflict for them started before and continued after that state was created. more or less close to be on a permanent war footing. some they start and others they have to defend.

Some races are very resilient, in Vietnam the Vietnamese hid in the jungle and in tunnels, in Afghanistan they just headed for the hills and hid in caves, both ended in defeat for The States, when are The Americans going to realise you can not put these people down by bombing them. Israel tried it with Gaza virtually flattened the place but Hamas and Hezbollah keep reforming and bounce back.

It's worth reading Prisoners of Geography and The Power of Geography by Tim Marshall - should be critical reading for all politicians and the snowflakes of Gen Z. He warns about Iran - and how they (like the Afghans) will never be beaten. And his writings about the Saheel, South America and our pop-gun army are frightening.

BREAKING: 3 of the 4 big Gulf countries (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, and Qatar) are discussing withdrawing from US and other investments as the toll from the war with Iran mounts.

Details Include:

1. "Budget stains" are reportedly mounting due to reduced income from energy, shipping, and tourism
2. Countries could reassess investment commitments to US
3. The move would be viewed as a "precautionary measure"
4. Moves that jeopardize US investments could "pressure" President Trump
Over $2 trillion in US investment appears to be at risk.

Breaking news with who? Facebook?

Breaking it's, what's, and might be you mean?
Could maybe reconsider - I could reconsider cod or haddock for tea tonight but will probably have sausage and mash.

Trump is meeting Farage tonight,Jamie.. ..I think we both know who he wants as our next PM eh..

He's got no time for that 'loser' Starmer..

Trump would love regime change over here. P.M. Farage (Trump's Poodle)

Better than licking the dogs balls of the EU eh..

We are involved, Starmer I’d doing a balancing act…even now he’s crumbling and getting drawn in further, but it was unavoidable…if policy is to be decided by the left wing of the Labour Party we are in the crap.

I’d love regime change over here too….in fact his polling as the worst prime minister ever, makes it so depressing.

And who would you replace him and his party Snowy, your constantly criticising the current government but never come up with any credible suggestions on how or what to replace them with ?

Can you name any policies of Reform which you favour, most have been discounted as unfundable more so the one to reintroduce the 2 cap child benefit to cut the price of a pint, yeh great idea. One of his other policies is to means test the State Pension so all those who saved into a private pension could lose their State Pension. Farage is a lone voice in Parliament well that’s when he attends similar his constituents very rarely catch sight of him in Clacton.

Anybody…literally anybody.
They are a disaster….you are detached from life here and admit you only read or listen to the views of you choice so have a jaded view of events that agree with your politics..
You have a closed mind.

Trump, if he’s still POTUS when the time comes, will most likely interfere with our general election in some way to help his good buddy Nige because Trump thinks he’s king of the world.

I’m no Starmer fan btw, far from it but wow! Just look around at the other politicians from all sides at present, what a bunch of lightweights, looneys and incompetents. Many are dishonest too.

Our Nigel has jetted across to The States again, spends more time there than he does in his constituency.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62m2pde4p6o


Interfering with other countries elections eh..not nice.

Volunteering in their own time eh? Wouldn't mind betting they were still getting paid and didn't take holidays to go there?

Our Nigel has jetted across to The States again, spends more time there than he does in his constituency.[/quote]


Why wouldn't you want to get on with the USA in this day and age?..I don't see many of the weaklings from the EU sticking up for the decision Spain made ,Jamie..Why do think that is.

Starmer is never in the country, you’ve got a nerve.

Funny how they were all ‘volunteers’……dumb thing to do.

Well he is the PM, PMs and leaders of countries do tend to travel abroad for meetings with other leaders for the benefit of the their citizens. What benefits will Farage bring to the U.K. a party with 5 elected MPs and 3 defectors bring to the U.K. apart from backing Trump with his slagging off of the U.K.

Excerpt from Question Time where one of the panellists destroys the reasons for Trumps bombing of Iran.
https://youtu.be/PzBbhTlVpnQ?si=FtzktU0_ZldcCp2r

That'll be the panellist who's previously been an activist for the Greens, Jeremy Corbyn, Plaid Cymry, is an eco warrior, supporter of independence for Scotland and Wales, so totally apolitical then?
On the energy piece he says our prices are high because of global gas prices and says we could have a supply cable from Europe in the event that renewables aren't available because the sun doesn't shine or the wind doesn't blow, so we'd be subject to European energy management, how does that make the UK sustainable, what happens if the Europeans turn the switch off, or the Russians cut the cable?
The man is a very good orator, but it doesn't mean everything he says is correct.

In name only.

According to many reports Starmer has more air miles per day in office than any PM in history, what benefits have they brought Jamie?

So what that’s what his job involves, you would be complaining if he was sat on his ar** in Number 10 all the time, one thing for sure he is not going to be Trumps puppet like Farage. He recognises the mistakes that were made during the Iraq war by Blair. Iran will turn into another basket case like Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, every country The States gets involved in always does in general. Good at starting wars but the ultimate consequences are dire for the citizens of those countries.

its a standing joke amongst the population about starmers air miles and farage,s trips to the usa. why do you need to be in the same room with anybody in this day and age to talk things over is totally beyond me. without knowing i guess at least farage might be paying for his ticket unlike with starmer its us.

So any benefits from all his trips Jamie?
He turns up at stuff that previous PMs would send Ministers to, why is that? Possibly to avoid hard scrutiny over domestic affairs? Or is he touting for a new job come June?

Why wouldn't you want to get on with the USA in this day and age?..I don't see many of the weaklings from the EU sticking up for the decision Spain made ,Jamie..Why do think that is.[/quote]

Yes Spain like the U.K. they don’t want to end up as Trumps puppets, good on them, what influence does Farage hope to achieve by his visit ?

Turns up at stuff that previously PMs would do, link please, just another drivel reply, why did Farage go to Tne States, he could have sent his deputy Tice ?

So you call PTID's post as drivel but then reply with the same suggestion. If you're trying to tell us you are talking drivel, there is no need, I came to that conclusion yonks ago.