The Poolie Bunker

We need to start planning ahead if Raj is really off and what we don’t need is a bus driving over a cliff at the final whistle.
Nothing concrete is apparently happening…. but NOW is the time we should be preparing for next season if we are to have any chance next season.
I get more suspicious about what’s around the corner the closer we get to it.

If no buyer, I reckon Raj will have to tick things over.

A feast of gruel I fear….

Must be an update from the interim board due any day now...

Or something from HUST saying how much - or how little - they know.

Or a bit more trolling from P&B or some other workie ticket.

What I never really expect is a confident statement from new owners saying it's all done an dusted bar the paperwork

What about player contracts?
Last time I looked at who is out of contract, come July 1st we will be lucky to have a couple of ballboys still on the staff!

The ball boys have had offers too…plus the balls.

I fear we end up part time, volunteering keeping the club running as fan ownership on a couple of grand per month.

Or

Raj does a massive 360° and stays on.

Or someone buys us, which seems most likely.

Fairy tales only happen at Wrexham York n Stockport.
How very coincidental.

That could of been us

Time to put the away Kevin, Its neither use nor ornament.

If any one on here thinks pools will rise from the ashes if things go tits up, Then give your head a shake.
We need a buyer.

I suspect your right…the idea of dropping into the bottom of the leagues and storming back to where are now in 5 years time if everything goes to plan is a big if.
Trouble is we need somebody to come along as of yesterday, to get prepared for next season….it’s getting a bit late if we’re hoping for a reasonable transition to new ownership, but this death by a thousand cuts is not a viable alternative either.

It's happened at multiple other clubs. The evidence says its very much possible. But I don't really want us to be in a situation where we end up finding out which of us is right!

Even if we drop many leagues we will still get 3000+.
Me included

We won’t get the choice

Which clubs have been wound up and quickly got back to even NL level?
Being bought out of Admin would be preferable to winding up as that could mean starting with a points deduction providing a Creditors Agreement was in place.
A take over has to be the preferred option, as long as the new owners aren't a bunch of shysters.

Aldershot, Maidstone, Halifax and technically Wimbledon. Lots in NLN and NLS only one good season away from doing it.

But yeah, takeover, yes please.

Aldershot went bust in 1992 as did Maidstone, Halifax in 2008, so hardly finding it easy to rise from the ashes. Based on the Aldershot and Maidstone scenarios I could live to over 100 and never see efl football for us if we went bust.
I'm too long in the tooth to go to regularly watch tier 8 or 9 football, has to be a take over or at worst Admin and points deduction for me, otherwise it'll be something new for me on Saturdays.

If we get a points deduction we will probobly get relegated so it will be another waste of a season to then be down a league anyway. I remember years ago fans said I'd never watch pools in non league we were supposedly getting crowds of 2k then. Now we are getting 4000 plus regularly.

Go ask the Loid supporters if going g out of business was the best thing that happened to them.
Darlo, always had higher crowds than us before they went bust but now their support is what 1200 or so (guessing)?

Nobody at all is saying that it's the best. It's just not the end of the world and clubs live through it. Lots of examples around of them doing so. Clearly there enough people about who are without football snobbery, drawing lines in the sand for what level of football they will and won't watch.

I'm not sure you can get a points deduction if the season has finished.

We fiddled our gates for years so who knows we might of been better supported back in the day than them. If we went bust and played at the vic we would still get 2k plus no matter what. Not that i want us to go bust but worst case scenario we will still get way more than darlo.

If your a Poolie, you’ll turn up.

think snobbery has a lot to do with it. its not as if getting back in the efl means games will suddenly get exciting again . the national league is fine if we had a good team playing in it with a chance of automatic promotion or the play offs.

Not snobbery for me, I'm a Poolie through and through but imo a phoenix club would not be Pools, it's not just a name change it'd be a completely new entity with which I'd have zero affinity with. Might as well just switch to supporting any of the present amateur teams within the town, or even closer to home as I don't live in the town.
100% behind a resurgence of my club but not interested in the birth of a new one. A fair few ST holders I know have said pretty much thecsame.

I think that's true, but the holding on to the Vic part is a big if that shouldn't be taken for granted.

Councils have never been more skint than they are now. The majority of the borough's council tax payers have no real interest in the football club. Some may have a certain amount of goodwill, but will that survive a phoenix club dropping much closer to the level of FC Hartlepool (level 10) than the Football League? If a developer comes along with a Mill House Plan for new homes on the entire site?

In a situation like this it's never about which fans are right n wrong.
What division next season is on the (former chairman) who is still owner but doesn't want to be or something like that.

The silence is deafening like.
What will be will be.

Dunno we're this level 10 is coming from.
Thought it would be 7 because we have no previous or even a pts reduction.

All speculation to date.
Would the council really defunct the Vic.

Wudent rule out the usual fire in the town to speed things up.

Opinions eh don't we just Luv the variation.
UTP
WSO

Darlo restarted in tier 9, Bury restarted in tier 10 so can't see a phoenix club starting at tier 7, precedents already set.
Not just a case of if the council would continue the lease but also could a club at that level afford the running costs of the stadium? Read something from the bloke who was the Administrator at Darlo that their monthly water rates back then were £5000/m albeit for the great white elephant stadium.
Also need to consider that part of the reason behind council support at present is that the club is an asset to the town in bringing money in, would a tier 8 or 9 club be considered such an asset to continue support?
I've just realised how I'm optimistic in my outlook on the scenario of a takeover coming, but fatalistically pessimistic about the consequences of no buyer being found, supporting Pools screws your mind.

Anyway I said "closer "to level 10. Can't help it if people read what they want to read rather than what's in front of them

One scenario.
Pass the debt on and hope for cup runs to dream about shrinking the debt.

Debt gets cleared in one go by Arabs.

Asking price to high POPAGE.

Change of heart to eventually div 6

Do a Wrexham or Stockport.
Forgot that's not allowed.


Just a few possible outcomes.

Sorry must be your old age Arabic handwriting or I'm going blind.

See we're we are 2033/34.

A few questions answered by then.
























Championship anyone.

If you saw my handwriting that'd be fair comment. it's got to the point where I can't read it myself. Must have been a doctor in a former life

With councils under pressure to build houses, that would make a nice site for ‘social ‘ housing to make up Angela’s numbers of new houses promised…we have to stay where we are.
What a God awful bag of shite this has turned into .

Well the evidence suggests that there are enough people who ignore silly things like a registered company number held on a computer somewhere as being anything of significance when it comes to what being a football fan is all about, heart. At the end of the day, if Pools is in your heart, you don't giblve a flying one about some piffling bureaucratic process to get Pools on the go again. It means cock all compared to what's in the heart. It's a bit insulting to our fan base to suggest we couldn't manage to get behind a phoenix club when other towns football fans have clearly managed to. Are we not as capable of seeing the bigger picture? Are we preoccupied with the bureaucracy of it all?

I agree with you imp….a technical alteration on paper work won’t matter one jot.
Anyone pedantic enough to fail to support the reborn club is fussy beyond belief.

Each to their own. If Pools die that's it for me, and for a fair few I'd suggest.
Nobody has suggested that people won't support a reborn club, just that not everyone who presently supports Pools won't support the new club.
I'd hope that everyone is of the opinion that we don't want the phoenix club option though at the end of the day.

Hartlepool is well above the national average for new builds.

This could happen.

Sing has a u turn and in 3 years we end up in div 7.

We have a reborn n end up in div 7.


I reckon the reborn would have more support.

Just a theory that is possible.

it would not be pools but more likely AFC United of Hartlepool where at best if the vic is still available to rent we,d be down to the 7th tier or lower if we had to groundshare like bury. Could be Hartlepool Nomads then.

Pools effectively have died, they have been on a life support machine for a number of years now, the heart is still beating but the brain is dead, and there is little chance of things improving, sad but true.

a lot depends on what period of pools history you are comparing it with. not much of a difference to pre cloughie 60,s or the70,s but only in a lower division and like it or not with better results. there are a few who we played regularly over the years in a similar situation to us and far worse. know its nowt to brag about but it is what it is and we can do sod all about it but hope.

Fair dinkum.
But it's getting boring now this non league shit.

No one should accept it as the new normal

We have to accept it, what's the alternative? We don't have to like it or expect it though.
If we are liquidated tier 7 will be an aspiration, we'll be starting at 8 or 9 at best.

Encouraging more shite.
Pathetic response.

Which word in my post equates to encouragement? If you don't accept the reality of where we are that doesn't change where we are. We have to accept reality or keep howling at the moon, won't make a difference.

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