The Poolie Bunker

Being taken out of the House of Commons as they are no good and also too noisy yet they want houses to have them ?
https://youtu.be/-QLmjcQNm-w?si=anlYdTzWd987Ayr8

Hold on - that video makes it clear that heat pumps don't work in old buildings - that was a known fact and that doesn't stop them from being effective in new builds or refurbished old buildings. The video doesn't say that heat pumps per se are no good.

We've got a heat pump - installed it three years ago, but did it in tandem with a complete refurbishment of our 1930s built home - took some getting used to but it works fine - can be noisy but there is a function to reduce the noise (I rarely use this as it does increase electricity consumption).

The problems with air source pumps are the electricity consumption, the fact that there are insufficient trained maintenance/ repair guys, and parts are expensive.

Hold on - that video makes it clear that heat pumps don't work in old buildings - that was a known fact and that doesn't stop them from being effective in new builds or refurbished old buildings. The video doesn't say that heat pumps per se are no good.

We've got a heat pump - installed it three years ago, but did it in tandem with a complete refurbishment of our 1930s built home - took some getting used to but it works fine - can be noisy but there is a function to reduce the noise (I rarely use this as it does increase electricity consumption).

The problems with air source pumps are the electricity consumption, the fact that there are insufficient trained maintenance/ repair guys, and parts are expensive.[/quote ]

How much did you pay…..?

We are as one on this one Jamie and I was part of a team installing them on industrial plant….a summer wasted when they were pulled out the following year.

I've also got a heat pump, had it for 5 years in my new build. They work well in a well insulated, airtight house ie no draughts. Its a different way to heat your home with the heating on most of the day so its a very good living environment. They are expensive to install and run as electricity is 3 times the price of gas so the logic of getting 3 times the heat for each unit of electricity doesn't make any saving financially. I saved by not having to pay for a gas connection and I get the Renewable Heat Incentive, a quarterly payment for 6 years. Thats now been replaced by capital grants. Some electricity companies have special heat pump tariffs that include 6 hours of off peak half price electricity for those with heat pumps, though its 50% more expensive 4pm to 7pm. The Climate Change Committee are advising government to switch environmental tariffs from electricity to gas supply. If they do that the running costs of heat pumps will improve.

However, I wouldn't recommend heat pumps for houses with poor levels of insulation, draughty houses or houses with no inside space for the heat store tanks and control systems that come with heat pumps. Its the technology of the future but a lot of the UK housing stock isn't suitable without expensive retrofit.

In the UK, installing a heat pump in a family home typically costs between £7,000 and £12,000 after taking into account government grants like the Boiler Upgrade Scheme, which can provide up to £7,500 towards the cost, with the average price being around £12,000 for an air source heat pump installation.

Basically the costs are made up by grants paid by the taxpayer , Also if they make gas and electricity more expensive the heat pumps will be cheaper obviously. The first 3 lines of your last paragraph sums it up, not many houses would be suitable for one.

Totally agree. We used RHI - but we were moving from bottled gas (we're a bit rural - no piped gas) so the savings overall were substantial. Can't overstate the need for full insulation.

thats the thing though as they,d be happy if everyone had them. not for keeping warm though as that comes a poor second in their eyes.

I saw a thing on TV about heat pumps on channel 5.

One family down in Bucks spent over £18K putting one in and the husband was tickled pink to be saving ................................

wait for it .............................

50p per day!

probebly the type who does a 10 mile round trip to save 1p on a litre of petrol.

"Hold on - that video makes it clear that heat pumps don't work in old buildings - that was a known fact "

If that was a know fact, Then which numpty decided to install them.

The only question is …..who’s paying for it. Because I ain’t got the cash.
…and that’s what it all boils down to….end of.

It's just hot air this thread. Typical Bunker.

It isn’t if someone is being expected to comply with fictional eco theories that are gonna cripple them financially so some zealot can get an erection for getting their sad way.

Personally I would rather rip our gas fire out, get down to Middleton beach and collect sea coal rather than install one of those overpriced devices.

I was down there the other day and there was a lot of seacoal on the beach. I used to remember being taken down by my old man and getting a bag or two.