The Poolie Bunker

Two Heed players who were outstanding against us on Boxing Day are already out the door - they weren't even in their squad against York yesterday.

Top scorer Owen Oseni (12 goals in 24) has been sold to St. Mirren - he only joined the Heed in July!

Midfielder Callum Whelan is also being sold. Gateshead are cashing in now because their deals are up in the summer and they can leave for nowt then. Oseni was only on a 12 month deal.

That's all within the first 24 hours of the EFL and Scottish transfer windows opening! Makes you wonder who they'll have left by the end of the month. And them 4th in the table and still only 4 points off the automatic promotion place

Yes more will leave but you can bet your bottom dollar they will replace them cheaply and effectively.

They are a trust owned club I believe whose managers have al left in recent years to manage EFL clubs. They must have a very good director of football handling the lso they must be player recruitment and sales.

Great business. That's the way to run a club.

But they f*cked up big style with their ground lease last season didn't they, so not quite the way to run a club.
Definitely can't fault their recruitment process though, managers and players, they come and go but the team is rarely weakened when they do.

Yeah really.

Imagine the outcry if before the end of the month Pools sell any one of Mani D, Joe Grey or Mancini with the justification that their deals are up in the summer so it's better to cash in now. Let alone a couple of them!

It could happen - and if it does people on here will be queueing up to let rip about the club's lack of ambition.

Gateshead might pull a couple of new rabbits out of the hat and carry on pretty much as normal - or they might not. Somehow I doubt their hardcore fans turn cartwheels with delight every time shit like this happens.

Yeah they really Raj'd up the ground thing. Fair one.

St Mirren who signed Owen Oseni are a100% fan owned club as well, will we ever see Pools being a 100% fan owned club ?

Best to sell our so called stars now than let them go for free.
Stop pretending we a better run club.

And as for them being shit on last season.
They went on to win the FA trophy n have anutha excellent challenge for promotion.

Pools wud of probably lost final n be near the bottom.

The Heed have character.
We could learn from that but won't.

Stop being bitter n jealous.

Not sure they're fan owned, think there equivalent of the Trust (Gateshead Soul) are 10% owners as part of a consortium. Interesting story in that the Soul were very active in driving the previous owners out.
They weren't shit on over the play offs last season, it's down to the club to know the rules and act accordingly. The club should have known the consequences and sorted the lease situation.
Of course we're jealous of their success, to not be so would indicate zero ambition.

true, but this selling and replacing them with players just as good will not last forever. one season they,ll do it and sign poor players for them who do not come off. no team are permantly lucky in the transfer market or appointing managers.

Gateshead attract players because it’s near Newcastle, Hartlepool is a ‘little village’ on the NE coast to most players and only famous for 1 thing.

The distance is negligible really when players are moving all over the place.

Exactly. See Oldham haven't been able to renew their loan deal for Josh Stones - York City have bought him! Money talks when it comes to the automatic promotion place.

Realistically most pools players probably live out of the town and nearer the training facilities. They probably only go to the ground on a match day or if they have another commitment.

You forget that not everyone is as shit at it as us.

or never bother to move like feathers and i think neil byrne in his time with us who i think still lived in bradford and just travel up and down for training and games. even back in the old days players did this and just stopped in local digs.

true, bot look at how poor peterborogh are doing this season. a well run club who like gateshead sell and buy cheap but seems their model has come off the tracks now and are dropping like a stone into a relegation battle.

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true, bot look at how poor peterborogh are doing this season. a well run club who like gateshead sell and buy cheap but seems their model has come off the tracks now and are dropping like a stone into a relegation battle.[/quote]

There could be any number of reasons why they're doing badly but even so, it doesn't change the fact that this kind of business done well can really make a big difference to a small club. If the right bid comes in for one of our players and I was confident with our recruitment then they can go as far as I'm concerned. Far better than letting their contract peter out and they go for nowt.

true, bot look at how poor peterborogh are doing this season. a well run club who like gateshead sell and buy cheap but seems their model has come off the tracks now and are dropping like a stone into a relegation battle.[/quote]

There could be any number of reasons why they're doing badly but even so, it doesn't change the fact that this kind of business done well can really make a big difference to a small club. If the right bid comes in for one of our players and I was confident with our recruitment then they can go as far as I'm concerned. Far better than letting their contract peter out and they go for nowt.[/quote]

Fair point, and it will be the worst of all worlds if players like Mani are allowed to leave at the end of the season, as happened in the recent past with the likes of Luke Molyneux. There'd still be howls of protest if Mani was sold now though.

There could be any number of reasons why they're doing badly but even so, it doesn't change the fact that this kind of business done well can really make a big difference to a small club. If the right bid comes in for one of our players and I was confident with our recruitment then they can go as far as I'm concerned. Far better than letting their contract peter out and they go for nowt.[/quote]

Fair point, and it will be the worst of all worlds if players like Mani are allowed to leave at the end of the season, as happened in the recent past with the likes of Luke Molyneux. There'd still be howls of protest if Mani was sold now though.[/quote]

We have not got that kind of set up or an owner with the right disposition at the moment.

Now the centre half Radcliffe has left, was only on loan from Derby but joined the ex management team at Crawley full time. No wonder we were outplayed with 3 now football league/ Scottish Premier players up against us.

Shows us we need to look at the selection method as Gateshead keep churning out a load of new young and much improved players under their stewardship.

Heard the morning Dodds n Grey are on the radar for Efl clubs this month.
MannyD not good enough for Efl so will probably negotiate a new deal at Pools if no other NL club offers a pay rise.
Could be a curious month.
A bit of pocket money for Raj.

No Raj will reinvest it in playing squad to replace them

Stop doing childish emojis grow up.

" only famous for one thing " could that be giving a good hiding to away supporters over the years.

If you can’t beat them join them, it was to indicate my comment was sarcasm obviously it went over your head.

Sarcasm you are so foooking funny Jamie.

true, bot look at how poor peterborogh are doing this season. a well run club who like gateshead sell and buy cheap but seems their model has come off the tracks now and are dropping like a stone into a relegation battle.[/quote]

There could be any number of reasons why they're doing badly but even so, it doesn't change the fact that this kind of business done well can really make a big difference to a small club. If the right bid comes in for one of our players and I was confident with our recruitment then they can go as far as I'm concerned. Far better than letting their contract peter out and they go for nowt.[/quote]

Imagine being in league 1 19th playing everton away saturday and about 5 points from mid table. Their model has worked for almost the last 20 years now and even in a dreadful season for them they have a 3rd round fa cup game earning them another fortune. Meanwhile at pools we sign about 40 players a season rarely make decent money on players and too right if we sold one of our best players now their would be hell on, we aint micky mouse Gateahead surviving on mid week crowds of 700, we are supposed to be making a real fist of the play offs, we cant afford to sell our best players, becuase we dont appear capable of bringing similar quality in, Gateshead have proved time and time again they can.

surely nobody expects the culture at pools to change from the one i have known for nearly 70 years that i know of. it is what it is unfortunetly and just have to suck it up.

Looks like the Heed are about to lose another player. Regan Booty (who was very good against us on Boxing Day) has put in a transfer request - rumoured to have been tapped up by either Carlisle or Crawley.

Couldn't be Pools could it? He'd be a good fit for the Featherstone role.

Gateshead dropping like a stone would be good for us but feel bad for them

Mike Williamson is getting pelters at Carlisle but was brilliant with Gateshead---really wonder how much was him and how much was the set up....if they do survive this year and he is there next year be interesting to see how that goes...

He would be the ideal signing, runs the show for them from central midfield, also excellent in the drubbing last season. As you say his ex managers are most likely to get him, Crawley have just sold their similar place player, Jay Williams to MK Dons with their old boss so they are the most likely I would think.

managers are just like many players are. good at a certain standard but not above or below that level.

See Gateshead have signed a 20 year old forward (Louis Flower) on loan from Brighton for the rest of of the season. If he starts banging the goals in like Brown and Oseni did Pools need to sign their chief scout

And Max Sheaf from Ross County, Midfield.

They keep rolling them in, that's for sure.

I though you bring in the Sheafs not roll them in, well according to old westerns I watched as a kid.

Indeed.

Have no idea what this Sheaf is like but looking at his record certainly wouldn’t be getting excited if we had signed him.

To be fair he looked a very good player when he finally got on.

I am a little surprised Gateshead haven't signed Cookie particularly now after quite a few of the better players have left.

at least they are signing players you can criticise. as usual all we bring in is silence.

Gateshead have an excellent recruitment system, it seems 6 players have gone or finished their loans now. Brought a couple in this week with football league experience and some of the players they had loaned out have returned.

Their recruitment is usually young players released by League 1 or higher clubs or young players doing well in non league that have previously been at League clubs.

In the case of Cooke he is over their age level and they had probably watched him against us and realised he couldn't play their game for more than 30-40 minutes. Be surprised if he ended up there.

true about their recruitment system as most clubs just drop like stones once they lose half a team. might have lost last night but will they in a couple of weeks time when the new lads have bedded in. would love to actually know what they are doing right compared to our policy or non policy.

Micky Barron reckons both MannyD n Grey won't start next season at Pools.
Talked some sense on BBC Tees tonight regarding the training ground incident.
But then undid his decent interview major style by saying he be happy with a point at Wealdstone.
FFS man.

No, he said he wasn't worried that they'd turned down the first contract offer from the club but he didn't think they'd BOTH be here after the summer - as in, one might stay, one might leave.

It's all crystal ball stuff at best.

Your heads fulla crystals
Non stop word twister.

A safe journey to Wealdy

they can sign as many players as they wish but after watching the highlights of their home defeat to halifax they need to ditch their present defensive culture. w,d be in meltdown if we conceeded a couple of gifts like they gave to lose the game.

Or, you could just try listening to it again - with your lugs open this time