In peace chaps, out of curiosity where would Pools be now if he had stayed at the Vic ? Ok he wouldn’t have had the same backing as he has had at EP but my view is with the feel good factor after your promotion and gates around 5000 + promotion would have been achieved not in your first season up because of the limited time he had to build a squad after the play off final.

You look to have a decent squad this season and as you know once you secure a play off place it’s a lottery, would love to see you Dale, Oldham and York back in the EFL, many happy memories of away days in the north east including a kicking in the rink end about 70/71 ….. I feel your pain lads , we had 6 years in the NLN and I wouldn’t wish that on you. Genuine good wishes for the future.

As soon as can get an export licence to the Falklands for our Master of Strategy Manager, we can restart the season again.

Interestingly whenever Challinor tried altering formation it was invariably a shitshow as well, lesson at this level to not try and change too much on the fly

No chance Challinor would have stayed at the Vic with our owner. We were bouncing when we got promotion but the owner has no ambition, all he wants is the prestige of owning a football club. A huge opportunity wasted over one mans ego. We made a huge profit our first season back, with cup runs and increased crowds but it was all wasted, he even rejected the Americans who went to Wrexham instead and we know what happened there. Until we get rid of this bloke the only way is down and its heartbreaking for the fans.

Except Challinor would have left anyway, remember him moaning publicly about being poorly paid / agreeing an improved deal he was delighted to get done / moving on when Stickport offered him allegedly 3 times what we were giving him.
Raj didn't turn Reynolds down, we were never their 1st choice, confirmed by the bloke who did the assessments of the possible clubs to buy. Wrexham were their first choice.
Who knows what motivates Raj, but it's fairly obvious if he's putting money in even as loans then he needs success on the pitch to stand any chance of getting his money back.
One thing for sure is that regardless of who the owner is, Sarll is the single biggest problem the club needs to resolve.

We’ve had quite a few good managers, but they’ve all moved on …we need to find a new ‘good manager’ and stop harking back to the past and look to the future.
We need to get someone in with a vision instead of this constant turnover.

like he did last saturday home to leyton orient. was like watching pools on a bad day.

mind you challinor did the job for us from day 1 and did not treat the job as if it was some stop gap because he hadn,t got one when he arrived. he did not become a better manager at stockport just because he was paid much more but had better tools to do his job with.

And Uncle Darren i believe has a decent set of tools here.

When a manger comes out in the press and says what he is offered was derrogratory it makes you sit up and take notice. Not sure ive ever heard a pools manager say that Something a lot of us have said since them days, trying to get cheap managers in.

Well we are paying for it big time now and it looks like we are heading down again with this clown in charge. Only hope forrest green put about 7 past us saturday and he fucks off.

Yes he said his deal was poor, but then he said he was delighted with the new deal - so do you take both statements at face value or just the one that suits your point of view?
None of us know that we're trying to sign managers or players on the cheap though do we. Shite can cost more then quality and poor performance doesn't always mean cheap.
Yes we regret Challinor left but he was never going to stay was he? The lure of big bucks was enough for him to drop back out of the EFL when managing at EFL level was his ambition.
We currently have imo the best squad we've had in years but a manager who can obviously recruit well but can't build a team out of them. I'd say Saturday is his last chance as waiting too long will end the season for us apart from potentially a relegation battle.
I dare say if we're not in touchi g distance of the play offs over Xmas Raj will look to try and cash in on Dodds, Mani, Grey before their contracts run out too.

Raj tried to get him on the cheap, then upped his offer to maybe a more reasonable offer, remember raj also quoting real morcambe as an example of budgets at the time. Morcambe then came out and said they had the lowest budget in the league, everything we have done for years smacks of cheapness, all managers have come basically from our club or lower non league teams, everything and even results point to us trying to do it on the cheap.

I think raj has probobly given sarl way more money than phillips, askey or anyone and its probobly a reason why this guy hasnt gone yet. We keep saying how good the squad is? Ive been guilty myself. Is it though? Im not sure many teams would swap our midfield for theirs. I think we have our strongest forward line for years but maybe thats where our strengths dissapear.

If a manager doesnt come in soon manni will go elsewhere and bag goals, its crazy we are giving this guy another game, maybe they dont want a new guy having such a tough start thats all i can think off. We might as well write saturday off this clown cant beat a top side.

We've got good players available for almost every position and formation (barring LB) imo but this clown doesn't know how to use them.
Tuesday was an obvious illustration of that playing a RWB in front of Dodds, Charman at LB, and a midfield 2 including Fev, from the outset.
Then the just chucking on of every attacking option without thought to formation or tactics was bizarre, at least 5 players played LB for a part of the game including Mancini who looked bewildered at the act of taking a throw in.
We need shot of him ASAP and even if it means Fev and McGuckin taking temporary charge they'll surely do better than this idiot.

Isn't Fergy back after a one game ban

Yes but he's been awful this season hasn't he?

Another f*ck up on Tuesday was dropping Sass Davies imo, what about his meritocracy where he said if you've got the shirt and you're playing well you keep it? Waterfall should have had to wait for injury, loss of form, or suspension.

99% Agree ..... I think Mancini may have a flat long throw up his sleeve !

But everything else you are right--his idea of attack is throwing players on and hoping something works--guy hasnt coached a fwd pass under 40 yds in his life....players must be miserable with him in chareg

why not offer it to Pete wild good record at Halifax then cot Barrow up the only problem I could see is he is a man with principle and resined at Barrow as he did not agree with the way the club was being run. Probably the problem would arise soon if he were to join Pools.

He could get a job in politics with his silver tongue bullshit.
Probably get Starmers job.
Send him to Russia to talk to PUTIN n end that war Or he could start WW3

Sure he's already had 2 inter views for the job previously with Raj n knocked us back twice.
Cant see this coming off like.

Where I said elsewhere, he’s like General Melchett off Blackadder…when you’re losing just throw more bodies into the battle and still fail…bodies with shit tactics and training just aren’t enough..

"I put all my six attacking offensive players on the pitch.
We still didn't score and we looked more of a threat with one.
What does that tell me??
We are moving too quickly.. we need to pull back on the reins.
Go back to basics and what we are good at.
Thank god we already have a blueprint ready."

You mean going back to the "toe to toe" stuff and "puffing chests out"?
Absolute comedy gold this character.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkABIJJCQmQ

“Today, so many of our senior characters didn’t go toe-to-toe. They didn’t puff their chest out. They just walked away and cried aimlessly in the corner.”
https://www.thecomet.net/news/22388370. ... miliation/

Have you been kicked off the board?
Strange very strange.

Raj tried to get him on the cheap, then upped his offer to maybe a more reasonable offer, remember raj also quoting real morcambe as an example of budgets at the time. Morcambe then came out and said they had the lowest budget in the league, everything we have done for years smacks of cheapness, all managers have come basically from our club or lower non league teams, everything and even results point to us trying to do it on the cheap.

I think raj has probobly given sarl way more money than phillips, askey or anyone and its probobly a reason why this guy hasnt gone yet.
is this pools thing about everything being done on the cheap totally correct. if it is then all these clubs who get gates far les than us including season ticket sales must all have suger daddies or the ability to bring more money into the club than we do.

Finally...better late than never eh?
Barnet, Solihull Moors etc etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsGaSWfejrw

Three draws and a defeat in the last four games might be putting our Dave on the spot if it carries on.
After all County are heading for the Championship or so their fans expect.

thats a type of run we dream about at pools now.

As it's only marginally better than we are doing, it's not one of my dreams.
I doubt many County fans would be endeared to it either.
I suspect it is tongue in cheek Mr Accy.
Seriously though I would imagine there are rumblings.

three out of those four games have been away from home with two against fellow play off contenders. only a freak home defeat against leyton orient was a bad display and result. the locals are still happy with him and still live in fear of him doing what he did with pools. unlike in the past their fans seem quite happy with their situation and not looking at the teams who play in the league above them which has happened in the past.

There's none so fickle as football fans but DC should be cut a bit of slack after what he has achieved for them, with the help of a bit of brass.

The majority of us don't expect that derwent old chap, maybe a few of the Johnny come lately types do who have only been used to seeing a winning side over the last few seasons but any of us who have a few more County supporting miles on the clock would be quite content with a nice comfortable season of stability in league 1 with maybe a bit of a flirt with the play off places for a little bit of excitement.

The drive for the championship comes from our owners ambition but even he stated at the start of the season that whilst we've had a top 3 budget for the last 2 or 3 seasons realistically it'll be more of a top 10 budget this season. We're not poor by any means but certainly can't compete financially with the likes of Brum who've spent 30 million in league 1 which is insane.

I personally had some real concern that Challinor might have been in line for the Stoke job a couple of weeks back. To me that would have been exactly the right type of club to tempt him away. Bigger club (with money), higher division, & geographically he wouldn't have had to uproot his family but it seems the concern was unfounded as Stoke decided to ignore the talents of an upcoming English manager & go for a pound shop Pep instead as is the fashion nowadays!

Anyway, enough about my lot & DC. What's going on with your boys? It seemed liked you'd made a reasonable start but have fallen off a cliff a bit lately. Just a blip or the signs of another slog of a season? Still early days yet but I was hoping you'd be in the playoff mix at least this season.

No problem here, Uncle Darren (as he calls himself, In fact he spends most interviews talking about himself and his achievements) has stated the next 12 games will be better than the last 12 games.
He has unblinding faith in himself, But not the squad, Could go on and on, Hes a horrible man.
Anyway all the best for the rest.

Cheers Grayhoundend, same to you. Just Looked at Sarll's wiki page & under the Hartlepool section there's reference to 'Uncle Darren' on there! surely a cheeky edit by a Poolie? He doesn't refer to himself as 'Uncle Darren' surely?

Aye he certainly does, "youll see uncle Darren was right" he says, In his interviews whilst having a dig at the media and fans.
Fans detest him, Heard the players don,t like his methods, and him and Anthony Mancini Do not see eye to eye.

You have to hear it to, To disbelieve it, He should be no where near a Pro Club.

Rumours have it he turned up with a quote to renew the hot water system on the day prospective managers were being interviewed, got in the wrong queue and his positive talk of turning up the heat and having a watertight defence against leaks was misconstrued and his Cockney bravado got him the job.
Turned up on his first day with his lads and realised what had happened so thought he’d give it a go….nowt to lose…..and the rest it history…,

the best discription of pools these days was to look back at county in the days of neil young. started with some promise but quickly went downhill with poor tactics and bad discipline from his players.all we need next is our glen rule to get hungry durieng a game and take a bite out of somebody.

Bloody hell accrington! You've just sent me into a cold sweat with that description! given me flashbacks to a time I've invested good money in trying to forget! Neil Young, Glen Rule! I'm going to have to dig my therapists number up again! I didn't have much time for Sarll when he was Yeovil manager thought he was a bit a of snidey so & so but the uncle Darren thing is downright creepy! You've got someone up the road from you in Rob Elliot working wonders & playing good football with a team in a shite stadium with a fraction of of your fan base, if I was your owner I 'd be casting my eyes in that direction before someone else nabs him.

Too late, somebody has.