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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 6:36 am 
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Ever get the awful feeling he ain’t going anywhere soon, surely not, but you never know. :shock:

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Ever get the awful feeling he ain’t going anywhere soon, surely not, but you never know. :shock:

possibly raj has given him a bit more rope just to avoid in the future that he made a decision too quickly again. like murray was i doubt sarll has a single fan inside the vic unlike some others in the past who had somebody fighting their cause.


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I would think if they are looking at sacking him they need to find a replacement first like they did with Phillips, Pete Wild, never played at a professional level,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Wild


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accrington fan wrote:
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Ever get the awful feeling he ain’t going anywhere soon, surely not, but you never know. :shock:

possibly raj has given him a bit more rope just to avoid in the future that he made a decision too quickly again. like murray was i doubt sarll has a single fan inside the vic unlike some others in the past who had somebody fighting their cause.

Sarll’s case is odd in that he’s the first manager in Raj’s ‘reign’ not to have anyone arguing his corner…first ever time the despair is across the board….which probably means he’s here for the season…. :scared-eek: :scared-eek: :scared-eek:
Let’s hope not,but it’s infuriating to watch the prospects for another season slipping away.

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It really is just predictable and miserable being a pools fan. Summer gets you thinking you could do well in the coming season then it starts and it's just the same miserable shit served up season after season. It's so rare we have anything to get excited about or be proud of. The club is cursed,change managers and players but rarely does anything improve. Oh for someone to take the club over and inject some positivity and enthusiasm into the place, club is just on its knees.


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It really is just predictable and miserable being a pools fan. Summer gets you thinking you could do well in the coming season then it starts and it's just the same miserable shit served up season after season. It's so rare we have anything to get excited about or be proud of. The club is cursed,change managers and players but rarely does anything improve. Oh for someone to take the club over and inject some positivity and enthusiasm into the place, club is just on its knees.


And it can only get worse unless Raj takes immediate action and sacks Sarll now before the season is over. God help this football club if we get to Xmas in the bottom half of this table. We are about to start seeing 2,000 gates again like the 70s and 80s and are already financially foooked. It's really looking like the end of this season this club with be gone and a phenix club launched, it really is that serious this time. banghead


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Things will never change under raj, he's not interested in serious investment, just happy for us to stagnate and wither away.


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RichyHpool wrote:
It really is just predictable and miserable being a pools fan. Summer gets you thinking you could do well in the coming season then it starts and it's just the same miserable shit served up season after season. It's so rare we have anything to get excited about or be proud of. The club is cursed,change managers and players but rarely does anything improve. Oh for someone to take the club over and inject some positivity and enthusiasm into the place, club is just on its knees.

know its no excuse but other clubs we used to play on a regular basis have been in the doldrums longer than us before they improved or stayed about our level. stockport, wrexham come easy to mind and we all know why. even as fans do we really deserve to be where we are and will this old dog of a club have another day. only time will tell and if it does change for the better never forget these days when things do not go to plan.


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Things will never change under raj, he's not interested in serious investment, just happy for us to stagnate and wither away.

do not think he has the money for the investment needed and should be doing his best to find a good owner who actually can. i mean a good owner and not a con artist or a mark 2 version of himself.


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Swan Song saturday i think.

Probably left him in there knowing he will once again fuck it up Saturday.

Play attack v defence against FGRs and you really are asking for a mauling.
Lets face it hes going to play Waterfall again, Sass on the bench.
Parkes will play his usual game and be left exposed.
Waterfalls play/body language to me, Says he wants him gone.


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The body language from the majority of players looks bad, mani just looks frustrated and annoyed most of the game, players don't look happy at all.


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RichyHpool wrote:
The body language from the majority of players looks bad, mani just looks frustrated and annoyed most of the game, players don't look happy at all.


Spot on.

Think they are giving the rope to hang himself, Tomorrow.


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RichyHpool wrote:
The body language from the majority of players looks bad, mani just looks frustrated and annoyed most of the game, players don't look happy at all.

can you blame them especially mani whose game is about scoring and helping others to do that when he is hardly getting a touch of the football in the final third. no player wants to work under somebody who is making them look worse than they actually are.


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accrington fan wrote:
RichyHpool wrote:
Things will never change under raj, he's not interested in serious investment, just happy for us to stagnate and wither away.

do not think he has the money for the investment needed and should be doing his best to find a good owner who actually can. i mean a good owner and not a con artist or a mark 2 version of himself.


You would think he would want to cut his losses, they will keep mounting up, as the saying goes the snowball is just going to get bigger.
IOR didn’t hang about long, first TMH then Coxhall, they weren’t bothered, they just wanted Pools off their hands as they couldn’t sustain the losses after Larsen withdrew his backing.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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RichyHpool wrote:
Things will never change under raj, he's not interested in serious investment, just happy for us to stagnate and wither away.

do not think he has the money for the investment needed and should be doing his best to find a good owner who actually can. i mean a good owner and not a con artist or a mark 2 version of himself.


You would think he would want to cut his losses, they will keep mounting up, as the saying goes the snowball is just going to get bigger.
IOR didn’t hang about long, first TMH then Coxhall, they weren’t bothered, they just wanted Pools off their hands as they couldn’t sustain the losses after Larsen withdrew his backing.

actually him doing that could make things much worse than they are. could then be open to any crank with some money taking the club over. our only saving grace is the council and not a single club owner who owns the ground. those wanting that to happen is be careful what you wish for.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:06 pm 
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Can't really blame Raj for the ineffectiveness of his Manager appointments, even the two who did okay both had patches where things went wrong, Lee that long winless run at the end of the season where it looked like the team had finished in March and Phillips took 2 points out of 15 in a month culminating in that embarrassment at Gateshead, although I tend to think he was a tad unlucky to lose his job unless something else behind the scenes had gone on there.
Better to have an owner who himself would admit he's not mega buckled than non at all and gone to the wall surely.
We would seemingly have plenty of experience behind the scenes at Pools (Lawrence, Moore) who you'd think would be able to give sound advice or is it maybe a case of too many cooks lending a piece of Raj's ear?
As for the other members of the board I do hope that the appointment of Sarll wasn't a case of them feeling as though they had to be seen to be doing something to justify their new roles?

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Snowy wrote:
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Snowy wrote:
Ever get the awful feeling he ain’t going anywhere soon, surely not, but you never know. :shock:

possibly raj has given him a bit more rope just to avoid in the future that he made a decision too quickly again. like murray was i doubt sarll has a single fan inside the vic unlike some others in the past who had somebody fighting their cause.

Sarll’s case is odd in that he’s the first manager in Raj’s ‘reign’ not to have anyone arguing his corner…first ever time the despair is across the board….which probably means he’s here for the season…. :scared-eek: :scared-eek: :scared-eek:
Let’s hope not,but it’s infuriating to watch the prospects for another season slipping away.


He cant be here for the season if he loses game after game which is looking highly likely. Three losses on the bounce, no wins at home with one goal scored in front of home fans. Only ever played well for 20 minutes against Woking. There is absolutely zero reason to think he can turn it round. If we lose at FGR (makes four losses in a row) he could be on his way or pretty soon after in my opinion.


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RichyHpool wrote:
It really is just predictable and miserable being a pools fan. Summer gets you thinking you could do well in the coming season then it starts and it's just the same miserable shit served up season after season. It's so rare we have anything to get excited about or be proud of. The club is cursed,change managers and players but rarely does anything improve. Oh for someone to take the club over and inject some positivity and enthusiasm into the place, club is just on its knees.



I do wonder if we made a secret deal with a higher power for the IOR years--10 years of relative success to be paid back by christ knows how many of misery....


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loyal_fan wrote:
RichyHpool wrote:
It really is just predictable and miserable being a pools fan. Summer gets you thinking you could do well in the coming season then it starts and it's just the same miserable shit served up season after season. It's so rare we have anything to get excited about or be proud of. The club is cursed,change managers and players but rarely does anything improve. Oh for someone to take the club over and inject some positivity and enthusiasm into the place, club is just on its knees.



I do wonder if we made a secret deal with a higher power for the IOR years--10 years of relative success to be paid back by christ knows how many of misery....

Supporting Pools in the 70’s and 80’s was even more predictable and miserable and the same miserable shit was served up decade by decade not just season after season …this is definitely NOT justo justify it, but wonder why no one in the town came forward bar Harold Hornsey and even he said it was beyond him financially.
We deserve better, for all the good that’ll do. :roll:

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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Snowy wrote:
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Snowy wrote:
Ever get the awful feeling he ain’t going anywhere soon, surely not, but you never know. :shock:

possibly raj has given him a bit more rope just to avoid in the future that he made a decision too quickly again. like murray was i doubt sarll has a single fan inside the vic unlike some others in the past who had somebody fighting their cause.

Sarll’s case is odd in that he’s the first manager in Raj’s ‘reign’ not to have anyone arguing his corner…first ever time the despair is across the board….which probably means he’s here for the season…. :scared-eek: :scared-eek: :scared-eek:
Let’s hope not,but it’s infuriating to watch the prospects for another season slipping away.


He cant be here for the season if he loses game after game which is looking highly likely. Three losses on the bounce, no wins at home with one goal scored in front of home fans. Only ever played well for 20 minutes against Woking. There is absolutely zero reason to think he can turn it round. If we lose at FGR (makes four losses in a row) he could be on his way or pretty soon after in my opinion.


The more i listen to him (my own fault) The more i think i,m supporting a club in the NLN.

He says he has 100% belife in the squad, Yet can,t set them up to go toe to toe, Would rather act like a shitty arse and win by default.


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It's not like pools don't have any good players,the job shouldn't be too hard.remember what Clough said though when he went to Brighton.
"I don't care about Brighton...i cared about Hartlepool '

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I suspect he picks his team by drawing numbered balls out of a bag half an hour before kick off, no time for tactics, then shoves them down the tunnel with a cattle prod.

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I suspect he picks his team by drawing numbered balls out of a bag half an hour before kick off, no time for tactics, then shoves them down the tunnel with a cattle prod.


And with a clear instruction "For fooks sake do not, under any circumstances, do anything creative."


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Snowy wrote:
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Snowy wrote:
Ever get the awful feeling he ain’t going anywhere soon, surely not, but you never know. :shock:

possibly raj has given him a bit more rope just to avoid in the future that he made a decision too quickly again. like murray was i doubt sarll has a single fan inside the vic unlike some others in the past who had somebody fighting their cause.

Sarll’s case is odd in that he’s the first manager in Raj’s ‘reign’ not to have anyone arguing his corner…first ever time the despair is across the board….which probably means he’s here for the season…. :scared-eek: :scared-eek: :scared-eek:
Let’s hope not,but it’s infuriating to watch the prospects for another season slipping away.


He cant be here for the season if he loses game after game which is looking highly likely. Three losses on the bounce, no wins at home with one goal scored in front of home fans. Only ever played well for 20 minutes against Woking. There is absolutely zero reason to think he can turn it round. If we lose at FGR (makes four losses in a row) he could be on his way or pretty soon after in my opinion.



I'm beginning to think he's negotiated a 12 months Probation Period.
He's never mentioned once that his job is on the line like most other managers after a bad run of results.

Then add in Raj n his Board havent said Boo.
When Raj normally swings the axe for funfter a run of poor results.

Something Fishy Goin on.
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Snowy wrote:
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Snowy wrote:
Ever get the awful feeling he ain’t going anywhere soon, surely not, but you never know. :shock:

possibly raj has given him a bit more rope just to avoid in the future that he made a decision too quickly again. like murray was i doubt sarll has a single fan inside the vic unlike some others in the past who had somebody fighting their cause.

Sarll’s case is odd in that he’s the first manager in Raj’s ‘reign’ not to have anyone arguing his corner…first ever time the despair is across the board….which probably means he’s here for the season…. :scared-eek: :scared-eek: :scared-eek:
Let’s hope not,but it’s infuriating to watch the prospects for another season slipping away.


He cant be here for the season if he loses game after game which is looking highly likely. Three losses on the bounce, no wins at home with one goal scored in front of home fans. Only ever played well for 20 minutes against Woking. There is absolutely zero reason to think he can turn it round. If we lose at FGR (makes four losses in a row) he could be on his way or pretty soon after in my opinion.



I'm beginning to think he's negotiated a 12 months Probation Period.
He's never mentioned once that his job is on the line like most other managers after a bad run of results.

Then add in Raj n his Board havent said Boo.
When Raj normally swings the axe for funfter a run of poor results.

Something Fishy Goin on.
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I suspect he picks his team by drawing numbered balls out of a bag half an hour before kick off, no time for tactics, then shoves them down the tunnel with a cattle prod.


Makes them play rock, paper, scissors for the shirt, blindfolded.


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Grayhoundend wrote:
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The body language from the majority of players looks bad, mani just looks frustrated and annoyed most of the game, players don't look happy at all.


Spot on.

Think they are giving the rope to hang himself, Tomorrow.


This is precisely what happened at Woking. The players were increasingly fed up with him because he didn't have the emotional ability to encourage them when they were struggling. Many were being played when carrying injuries and it all imploded quite quickly at the end for DS. He's relatively articulate which gives him a plausibility, which in turn leads you to think he's probably tactically astute. Once the team had run out of steam in the play-offs it was clear that what we'd been watching for a season relied solely on lots of energy and hassling. Towards the end I really felt sorry for him. He looked and sounded completely lost.


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Borninwoking wrote:
. Once the team had run out of steam in the play-offs it was clear that what we'd been watching for a season relied solely on lots of energy and hassling. Towards the end I really felt sorry for him. He looked and sounded completely lost.


You lucky lot, up here there was never any steam raised for the team to run out of - it's been tepid from the word go.


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How much is it though to fire him and maybe his assitant? Is it money the club (Raj) can afford? Is it money he can afford not too if it continues. Terrible situation (again)


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How much is it though to fire him and maybe his assitant? Is it money the club (Raj) can afford? Is it money he can afford not too if it continues. Terrible situation (again)


Gunna cost more to keep him.
Already crowds are dropping of massively both home n away.
No FA Cup run then ya can't rule out a Darlo scenario.


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How much is it though to fire him and maybe his assitant? Is it money the club (Raj) can afford? Is it money he can afford not too if it continues. Terrible situation (again)

Let him and his parrot go and appoint a couple of turnips, it really couldn’t be much worse and the turnips will just be happy they haven’t been boiled to worry about a contract.

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