Dick-tators surely

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Dick-Takers

Conference votes against wfp cut but it's non binding. WTF

Starmer has got himself into a corner.
If he ploughs ahead with it he’s stupid.
If he backed down it’ll make little difference as people will be emboldened to press him all the time…also it’s a bit like someone stealing a granny’s purse, then when the crowd shouts out, the mugger gives it back, they’d still be despised.

Oooh, you are awful

But i like you....

Wonder how many, if any, MPs voted against the cut at conference but didn't have the cajones to vote against it in parliament?
The brass neck of the c*nts now to say pensioners will be better off next year under them than they would had the Torys won the election. How does that work when they both committed to the triple lock, the Torys weren't touching the wfa - simple maths for most they're £300 worse off no matter how they try to spon things. Or about 4000 of them may be in a "better place" having frozen or starved to death.

Whichever way you do the maths it’s still £300 worse off despite the smoke and mirrors…you won’t be getting the pension rise till April but you’d have been getting it anyway regardless of the WFA so they’re doing no one any favours.
Misjudged macho management, that’s blew up in their face.

And its going to come back to bite him on the Arse,

Keir Starmer has told state pensioners they can expect to receive around £1,000 extra over the next five years, just under £4 a week. He forgets to mention the more you get in your State Pansion the more tax you might pay. in fact currently some pensioners will soon end up paying tax on their State Pension.Deduct the WFA from the £1000 and pensioners will be £500 worse off.

Funny thing is they seem to assume the public can’t do simple maths, like we’re all a bit thick and dumb enough to accept their bullshit as acceptable.
Worse still are those zombies in the Party who back him on the media and don’t blush every time they try to keep a straight face and stick to the Starmer line.

so what exactly is the point of the vote anyway. again it shows that the rank and file feel more different to those at the top do. same with the tories and trade union members.

Hartlepool Constituency Labour Party votes for WFA payment to be reinstated.They described it as;

Morally wrong.
Politically disastrous.
Economically flawed.
Practically useless.

Yep i agree!

I thought it was the Unions at the Conference that voted against the withdrawal of the WFP's...not MP's.

They both did, the unions were ignored and there was some ill feeling shall we say.

This not the Labour Party I remember……I used to go to the Labour Hall as a kid with my Nan especially at election times….like the Labour Hall itself, it’s not what it used to be.

A Labour Party led by a Knight of the Realm and with a fair few other Lords, Ladies, Baroness, etc just doesn't compute!
It's Labour Jim but not as we know it as Mr Spock would say.

and that would cause them to have a change of mind as much as the bunker would. in fact its similar to the bunker as an organisation of fools who have no real say.

You’d be a fool not to agree…So what’s the relationship gonna be between the Labour Council and the Labour MP who voted for scrapping the WFA…if he’d took a stand for his constituents he’d have had a chance of getting re-elected.
When Morton got elected the election was apparently run by Starmer (Beergate at Durham at the time) because all the canvassers I encountered were young and from out of town, I’d seem early morning dropped off in groups getting instructions. He chose the man who supervised the loss of services at the General as candidate….and had a feeling the local Party had involvement in the process?

Lets see if there are any more attacks on ordinary people in the budget. Many in labour have sent the leadership a warning and if he doesnt take note internal warfare will break out.
But then thats what Labour is good at i.e. tearing itself apart.

I see Winters come early so the single oaps will be fighting for their lives while the Boaties get 5star hotel treatment with a shit load of Freebies.

Even teenage murderers Gunna get released at the age of 21.

This Liebour government don't live in the real world.

none of them do and haven,t for a long time. be a great day when an mp does something the majority are in favour with and they are reported as doing the good work despite their background and lack of university education.

The number 10 press office must be delighted with the expose of the declared clothing and flat payment. It has took the eyes of most off the withdrawal of the WFA.
Its worth £100k plus which is peanuts compared to the £1 billion taken from the pensioners.
Yes its annoying but lets focus on the big headline.

Apparently around 45,000 extra people have come forward for pension credits which will also get them them the WFA on top of that. That will put a fair dent into the savings estimated by this bunch we have inherited (to coin their notorious claim).

I wonder how many are eligible yet not claiming?
The govt should make it automatic they have all the data except that on savings.So all a person would have to do is declare the amount of savings they have. Job done.

So to save £1.2bn 4000 or so pensioners will pay the ultimate price of an early death ( Labours own research prohections). Meanwhile on the eve of a summit of UK investors 2 government ministers flag off the proprietors of a potential £1bn investment in the UK (apparently their statements were cleared initially by no.10 but now apparently are personal views and nothing to do with government position). Surely U Turn - Two Tier Keir should be sacking the 2 ministers involved, going against policy has resulted in a dozen or so MPs losing the whip already?

People’s savings
These buggers will set a nice low level before they put the boot in and play the ….’well they’ve got something in the bank why should we give them a bonus’ ….. no one has worked out why they’re putting the boot in for a relative pittance…while by some strange coincidence Millibean is getting £22bn to fuck things up completely.
We are lead by delusional middle class faux Tories in drag.

there are people losing the allowance with zero savings due to being just over the limit. like every single benefit given out some should be getting more but others less or nothing.

"Millibean is getting £22bn to fuck things up completely"

Clean energy, Smoke and mirrors.

If MaMa nature one day decides its had enough of us mere mortals, If will fuck us right up.

and the lefties will still blame us for voting for brexit and dragging our heals on their green policies right at the moment a comit hits us. thats after half the population starves to death because of their policies on food.

Asylum Seeker with a 'dreadful criminal record' is allowed to stay in the UK..Does anybody in the UK even bat an eyelid when they read a headline like this anymore??

We should know who the people are who make these decisions

Make them Accountable for future crimes, Giving them a similar sentence.
Watch how many are allowed to stay then.

"The Home Office never comment on individual cases."...sick of hearing it.

We all want to know who from the Labour party is going to be handing out the blankets now the temperatures have dropped??.. I bet all their hospitality boxes this weekend were warm,eh.

Starmer and his cast of nodding idiots just can’t see the WFA problem, I doubt they ever will….he’s looking more like an aging Max Headroom.

if you mention it you,ll be seen as being a racist if you do not agree with the decision rather than being thought of a person using common sense. they bang on about human rights but never mention the human rights of those who have suffered from an illegal immigrant who could have had asylum before entering this country.

That always say it’s for their family……some family that’s gonna be.

We had a taster yesterday. It was bloody freezing round here. Not so bad today as the sun is poring through the windows of the room I am sitting in, so no heating needed at the moment.

I hope there are no more attacks on lower end earners in the budget.

I have received a letter about the WFA, I just tossed it in the bin, how much has it cost to send these letters out and why bother, it’s gone end of story for the majority of people.

Who was it from ?

I received one and was very tempted to wipe my arse with it and return to sender, the patronising condescending bastards!!!!

doubt there will be directly but indirectly i fear there will be. the usual increase on fags and drink with motorists getting a real hammering that will all affect lower earners more than the rest. can also see VAT coming on more and more things that are zero rated at the moment where again the lower earners are the ones who will suffer. lower earners include many in the NE who gets paid much less than others who do the same job elsewhere.

Why haven't these tossers gone after the cheating bastards from the Covid supply chain.

There must be the £1.3 billion needed to pay the WFA.

Mone & Co. seem to be getting away with millions.

The U.K. government department who deals with benefits, who else would send it ?

Apparently there's a scam going around where letters are dropping on doorsteps offering to process WFA claims for a fee. They're supposed to be quite official looking and will no doubt catch a few less savvy pensioners out. Bastards!! The scammers not the pensioners.

It seems strange that most of the earth towards the core is a thousand degrees and a never ending burning source of energy and heat but we cant heat homes in the winter.

The pensioners too. (Says Keir)

next one will be the big increase in water rates to come. when will all this end. like being given a tenner and find out you need 15.