Watching them at the State opening of Parliament along with Hunt and Rayner having a laugh, shaking hands like old pals.
Not so much a change of Government…..more like a shift change.

Same horse different rider.

Just changed the board of directors, Thats all.

Both rich selfish bastads.
Only lunatics think they care about Joe public.
Can see this autumn budget having more cutbacks than HUFC.

It’s not their wealth that bothers me, it’s their politics…they’re so wooden they’re a fire risk..

Politicians all p*** in the same pot nowadays.

My God! What a cynical bunch you are, what's wrong with attempting a bit of decency or would you prefer the cut and thrust of US politics?

who really expected anything to be different. its just a game where they,ll pretend to argue the toss across th house and travel back together in the same carriage home if their constituancies are close together.

Good point 27

Your concern is touching but your naivety shines through.
These people slag each other off continually to feed the needs and contempt of their supporters…then you see them in their natural setting….and you realise it’s just an act on their part to please their sheep.
These people are worse than cynics and you appear to have taken the bait.

The Irish aren’t taking the Building of Asylum camps lying down,
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/dubl ... olen-cars/

TWATS!

WESTMINSTER lawmakers and others spent more than £200,000 drinking in parliamentary bars in 2021 - despite premises having been closed for around half the year, The National can reveal.
Freedom of Information requests revealed that more than £45,000 was spent in The Woolsack in the House of Lords last year, despite it only having been open for the final three months.
In the House of Commons, around £108,000 was spent on drinks across three bars: Pugin Room, Smoking Room, and Strangers Bar. The bars were open for 19 months out of a possible 36 - although the Pugin Room took just £16.65 in July.

This total is slightly down on the £133,672 the three bars took in 2020.

Elsewhere in the Lords, the Peers’ Guest Room took more than £28,000 in 2021. It was open every month except February, March, and August, but only sold soft drinks in January and April. In each of those two months, the bar’s takings were under £1000.
The Lords Bar was open for seven months and took in more than £21,000.
The FOI requests only covered House of Commons and House of Lords bars, which account for six of the approximately 30 watering holes on the Westminster estate.
In total £203,910.71 was spent across those six premises in 2021. They were open for 38 of the 72 possible months, selling alcohol for 36.
Drinks purchased on the estate are significantly cheaper than elsewhere in central London. Parliament’s bars and catering facilities run at a loss, with taxpayers footing the bill.

Danielle Boxall, media campaign manager at the TaxPayers' Alliance, told The National: "Westminster’s many watering holes shouldn’t be propped up by the public purse.
"It is galling for people to know that their cash is still being used to subsidise the food and drink being enjoyed by politicians and their staff.
"Parliament's authorities must reform the system so that taxpayers are no longer facilitating what ought to be profitable outlets."
Heidi Allen, who sat as a Tory MP from 2015 to 2019, said in January that Westminster’s drinking culture was “like freshers’ week” at a university.
“The smell of alcohol in the voting lobbies could be quite strong sometimes,” she told an event organised by the Bright Blue think tank.

While in the running to take on the role he now holds as Speaker of the House of Commons, Lindsay Hoyle (above) said he thought Westminster had a problem with both drink and drugs.
“We should have health and wellbeing in place for drink and drug counselling, and real support for anybody who needs it,” he added.
An investigation by The Sunday Times in December 2021 found cocaine in 11 out of 12 Westminster toilets tested for the illegal substance.

Snowy, nice try but I'm not naive. As for the pubs Mr G ,they certainly shouldn't be subsidised.

Totally agree with you 27 - and that's a first!

Subsidised

They should no be there at all.

The House of Commons and the House of Lords must be the only working environment where you can drink alcohol during working hours.

or boadrooms.

I think in his first week or so Starmer has already shown weakness and strange decisions:
Wanting to be closer to Europe, remember the people decided they wanted out.
Thinking of giving up our fishing rights to the French
Seen an increase of illegal immigrants since the elections
possibility of raiding pension pots yet pensioners living in other warmer climates still get fuel allowance or any thing else the British pensioners get.
Whole not agreeing with Mr Trump's policies he put the French in their place when they said they would put a tax on American imports he told them alright we will put 100% tax on French wines they then backed down.For goodness sake man get apair,

Macron tells Starmer he can't cherry pick his deals...Trump tells the French to stuff their wines.. It's all down to our Nigel.

When was the last time you spoke to a black hat on a building site mr j?

It wasn’t a ‘try’…you don’t have to be fighting each other or arguing,…..
but they reduce politics to ‘It’s your turn now’ …it’s not some gentleman’s club…they can be respectful, but it was far too cosy for my liking.
I like my politicians with a belief in their brand of politics in any party.

No idea what you mean ?

starmer can only play with the cards he has got unlike trump who is always dealt a good hand. starmer is not a type who could bluff to win a hand. as for the dinghy divers, they were bound to increase in numbers due to the weather. if the election was in winter his supporters would be crowing though as the numbers would have gone down.