The South West Extension, i didn’t realise there was a housing shortage in Hartlepool, does town really need them ?
https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/p ... ol-3320086

Where do you think all the boat people are going to live?

Does anyone know how many new houses have been built in Hartlepool alone in say the last 10 yrs. Everywhere I drive I see recently built houses it's crazy. Must be in the thousands without this new 1200 proposal. let's have a guess say 5000 x 3 people per house on average = 15000 How has the population of little old Artlepool grown so much in that time after more or less being stagnate for 25 yrs It's either a baby boom ( which it not ) or incoming people from elsewhere If its the immigrants then it's really scary. We have 1186 towns and 55 cities in England alone. So let's do more figures based on my earlier guess of Hartlepool. We have 1241 towns cities of different sizes and populations x say 5000 new houses each ( just a average guess ) x 3 people = 18, 615,000 million. Even if this figure is halved its still over 9 million new people. If any of my figures are close to reality the government are not telling the truth regarding the number of incoming immigrants and the figures put out are way off the true totals. And its not stopping anytime soon.

Uk population has grown from about 57million in 2000 to 68 million now, nearly 20% no wonder public services are stretched to the limit. How many of these new arrivals are causing the huge strain on GPs, dentists, and even prisons ffs!! Now Starmer has announced open season for boat arrivals and if you're locked up for 10 years expect to be out in 4! Amd still we let them flood in.

Old news this report was dated 26/7/2021?

Well spotted Blue I am still concerned about the number of new houses and reasons why

Well they build these houses and surprise, surprise, they’ve sold them.
So they build more.
They ain’t dummies.

If you build them, they will come......

But the town is not exactly the Field of dreams

More houses isn't the answer. Making sure that owner-occupiers get them and not private land lords is the answer.

Correct but it's a win win for the government because building houses is the best way to grow the economy and the more people who cross the channel the more tax the government will get overall from the extra tax slaves. They gamble on collecting in more tax from a bigger group of slaves against paying out on the rest who won't work the extra costs on the already stretched countries services and others. And it's also a win win for the immigrants who get to live in our beautiful country and get homes / jobs / benefits and the NHS to name just a few major improvements in life style. They built more new houses that the English are constantly tempted to buy and always will pushing up repayments and long term mortgages. This frees up housing lower down the ladder to accommodate the influx of immigrants. English people lose on every front we have bigger waiting lists on our NHS and other services / we don't have enough doctors nurses paramedics police or other civil service professions / our hospitals schools prisons and NHS care homes and over crowded / crime is going through the roof / the emergency services cannot cope resulting in people needlessly dieing all over the country and many way before they should / we are loosing our once beautiful countryside to new builds / we will lose our culture and now live in a country unfit for starting or protecting a family. Makes me angry when I think about the lost brave soldiers of WW1 / WW2 and other wars who sacrificed their lives to save our country from invasion yet our so called government just opens up the borders.

A fair assessment.
Our veterans will be turning in their graves

Finding big finance companies are now buying up housing stock of ordinary homes …wonder what the buggers are up to.

To the decrement of the older houses in and around the town centre, the days of working your way up from a street house to something bigger has long gone.

That’s the way we did it… Streethouse for two years and moved up the Fens…..looking back, I can’t believe young uns could buy a house aged 24 like I did, the going rate then was mortgage payment was one weeks wage roughly.. God knows what it is now…..we’ve had seven houses, on the move but oddly had this one nearly 30 years.

plus i feel now that all the emergency services have just given up trying to be as they once where as its a totally impossible task now to do it. all this about building the economy and more being needed for jobs just where are they all i want to know. even the old immigrants do not like the new ones and it aint a race thing by a long way.

his 2000 figure is still correct and it took about 55 years to reach that figure from early post war days but only 21 to go from 2000 to 2021. There has been a net increase since 2021 to now so the 70 million figure must have been reached but they haven,t a clue now how many there is. The new lefty,s will always say there is still plenty of room here for everybody, but they are usually at an age where they do not need the NHS and other services and are happy spouting from their parents back bedrooms or a university halls of residance.

If it’s the Mail it article it was reported then but planning permission has been granted now.

The signage for it on the A689 has been up for months and anyway it’s part of a plan that was decided on at least five years ago fo the stretch between the 689 and Brierton lane, so there’s plenty more to come.
Towns turning into a Polo Mint.

The promises about a school and shops is probably bollocks.
Who is going to pay for the school staff and running costs and are other schools at capacity?
It will be a car owning reservation with no public transport.

School staff and running costs have to be paid for wherever there are people needing them….you can’t refuse education because you disapprove of their lifestyles and perceived social standing…….and buying a new house on a new estate is as far as I’m aware, quite normal and legal.
And if a local council gets control of the buses, the’ll have a bus service wether they need it or not.

How do developers know what age group type of school is required, pie in the sky to get planning permission. Looking round the town at recent new developments how many new schools have actually been built with the new developments at Bishop Cuthbert and Seaton ?

I think you are thinking too hard about this. The outgoing government could not stick to simple covid rules and other non-rocket science matters let alone come up with something so dark, devious and complex. The last just suffered from nothing more complex than good old fashioned incompetence.

It's not the government in charge though is it

Things we didn't vote for:

* WEF
* WHO treaties
* Vaccine passports
* Digital I.D.
* CBDCs
* Corporate lobbying
* Dodgy contracts to government cronies
* Net Zero
* £ Billions spent on wars
* Unelected lobbyists like Tony Blair, Klaus Schwab & Bill Gates.

They haven't had chance to show anything as yet, good or bad.

They are no more than a local council on a World stage. Doesn't matter who the rider is its always the same horse.

I'll take that. Times are that desperate.

Yes Imp sadly you are correct.

Quite a few houses on the new estates are council houses, the people who have paid in excess of £300,000 for their houses are up in arms, as the council are moving tenants in next door to them. They will do exactly the same here on this new estate

300k is average these days, but still, you need to do your research and find out who might be living nearby if you're spending that much.

The council have bought 5 on the Port Homes new estate on Seaton Lane, if your solicitors do a search it might reveal the council has bought some homes. I was brought up in a council hose like most of the people I know, you were posh if your parents owned their house.

Aye, they like to have a ‘social housing percentage’ apparently it mixes the ‘classes’ and raises their aspirations…..or reduces the travelling times for the scally element p to travel.
Lots of houses are being bought up in blocks by big time landlords to rent out…when really they should be sold to home owners.
Houses in ordinary roads are now catching the eye of the large landlord groups and buying up houses to rent out where once all houses were sold to new home buyers…the income needed to buy a house is getting out of the reach of people with good jobs and first time buyers, that aligned with wage suppression by bringing in cheap labour makes for a difficult market for home buyers at the lower end of the scale.

Whilst there normally is a clause for house builders to build so many affordable homes the builder can forward a sum of money to council to get round this.

Mansion with a butler.
Feed them dogs you peasant.

Affordable homes is the laugh both for buyers and renters of these properties.

please tell me what is wrong with having a tenant next door. british snobbery rears its head in hartlepool now. we are tenants because we prefer it that way like my lad and his partner do in the midlands.

These bigger estate plans normally include community facilities to smooth the planning approvals. Then they just build the houses, claim they've run out of budget to build said facilities, then build more houses on the waste land that had been put aside for the the community.
Towns growing way beyond what they can cope with in terms of public amenities and services. Huge increase in total Council Tax sent to central government with a small proportion reallocated to the individual councils. Council Tax income in County Durham must have increased by at least 30% since 2000.

thats been the situation with a local builder around my way that promised the earth but hasn,t built anything even a kids play area. one councillor was on his case but was officially told to shut up and get off his case. cannot see that not happening across the country.

An Englishman’s home is his castle, he doesn’t want any serfs living next door to him,

or someone who dares to own an older car to bring the neighbourhood into disrepute and refuses to go abroad on holiday.

I should Co Co….. I started out with nowt and have most of it left.

i,ll have to remember that one snowy. you have excelled yourself here.

Don't take my word for it but council tax goes to war funds not the councils. Please do the research you will find this is true.

Absolute cobblers. I want to know what you've got against defence spending.

Why do you think I have a problem with defence spending please enlighten me.

Because there isn't such a thing as war spending so I assumed the closest thing I could think of to be honest. Apologies if I'm off the mark. Wouldn't be the first time!

My eldest son is a serving soldier and yes our military definitely needs a massive influx of personel and a huge financial boost just to keep up with the rest of the major players around the World. We live in very delicate times with a real possibility of a pending war. I personally believe it's criminal the way our armed forces have been allowed to gradually dwindle down to such a state its becoming a real concern as to what could happen in the very near future.

I'm with you there.

It needs addressing very urgently

The one thing with the Tory’s that pisses me off was despite what people might think, the Tory’s are a disaster with defence.
The Falklands happened because Defence Minister John Nott announced swingeing defence cuts that included scrapping HMS Endurance the Falklands Island’s Antarctic supply and patrol vessel …the Argentine junta got the message and assumed that the UK wasn’t bothered anymore…all that trouble to save peanuts.
And they’ve been the same ever since.