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 Post subject: Mr Millibean strikes oil
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:53 pm 
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Ed Milliband has overruled his own officials to order an immediate ban on any more North Sea oil and gas exploration.
So the green Mr Bean will have us importing oil to fulfil his net zero fantasy while leaving our own oil under the seabed.

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the amount of jobs lost due to this buffoonery is obscene - we could of built new topsides and manned them for the next 40 years pumping out the good stuff again - silly silly man


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the amount of jobs lost due to this buffoonery is obscene - we could of built new topsides and manned them for the next 40 years pumping out the good stuff again - silly silly man

I suspect the unions will be less than chuffed.

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Think there'll be a legal challenge from the Oil Companies, even pre-engineering costs already paid out for geological surveys and design will run into billions.
We're held to ransom by the Arab States and Putin and this buffoon wants to turn off our own supplies!!!


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Apparently a government spokesperson has said that it's bullshit and no decision has been made yet. Or could be testing the water to see what public reaction is.
I'd say we need to pull the plug on net zero anyway, we've made huge strides in cutting carbon emissions already and the weather's f*cking miserable in the UKs little micro climate bubble while globally it was the hottest June on record.


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Ed Milliband has overruled his own officials to order an immediate ban on any more North Sea oil and gas exploration.
So the green Mr Bean will have us importing oil to fulfil his net zero fantasy while leaving our own oil under the seabed.



Maybe he dose not want to Lease the seabed from, King Charlie.
Charlie gets plenty from the offshore wind farms, As did his mam.


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Eiphos_3 wrote:
the amount of jobs lost due to this buffoonery is obscene - we could of built new topsides and manned them for the next 40 years pumping out the good stuff again - silly silly man



Or maybe hes been to RollsRoyce, Where their latest Aeroplane engine runs on Vegetable Oil.

In development (HushHush) Dont tell the Arabs.


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Im just glad im out of that game but do feel sorry for those still putting bread on the table because of it !

yeh no doubt the governments mind set is on other things and they are putting alot of cash into Nuclear and these new mini reactors but they have to realise where does all the gov cash come from for these self paid projects. O&G benefits the state massively i just dont understand why we would not want to be self sufficient and them earning big tax from it all


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Snowy wrote:
Eiphos_3 wrote:
the amount of jobs lost due to this buffoonery is obscene - we could of built new topsides and manned them for the next 40 years pumping out the good stuff again - silly silly man

I suspect the unions will be less than chuffed.


A few of the major players have pulled out of the North Sea, Chevron, Shell and BP developers have called for more support from the UK government including measures such as a pause in the windfall tax, but to no avail as of yet. In fact, the windfall tax has been extended to 2029. Basically they are looking for subsidies.from the government for any new developments, yes give them the money but ensure the topsides are built in the U.K. not in Asia the majority are now built.

As far as unions are concerned the North Sea isn’t fully unionised never has been, Unite represents some workers but voice your opinions and you won’t get the call for your next rotation.


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Most of the oil from uk fields is exported as we don't have refineries capable of processing it. But the gas produced is used in our power stations and processed for commercial and domestic use. So not issuing new licences and approvals for new oil and gas fields is self harm on a huge scale both in terms of energy security and tax revenue. The man is an idiot.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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Eiphos_3 wrote:
the amount of jobs lost due to this buffoonery is obscene - we could of built new topsides and manned them for the next 40 years pumping out the good stuff again - silly silly man

I suspect the unions will be less than chuffed.


A few of the major players have pulled out of the North Sea, Chevron, Shell and BP developers have called for more support from the UK government including measures such as a pause in the windfall tax, but to no avail as of yet. In fact, the windfall tax has been extended to 2029. Basically they are looking for subsidies.from the government for any new developments, yes give them the money but ensure the topsides are built in the U.K. not in Asia the majority are now built.

As far as unions are concerned the North Sea isn’t fully unionised never has been, Unite represents some workers but voice your opinions and you won’t get the call for your next rotation.

It’s not just the direct workers, it’s the suppliers too. The rig lads are just part of the picture.

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Is it not just new stuff with all the other identified plans going ahead when economically viable?

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Apparently some contracts ready to be signed after the preparation works are now completed and these could be the problem.

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The last of the Brent Field rigs is being removed this month, the Charlie, single lift 33000 tonnes by World's largest construction vessel The Pioneering Spirit capable of offshore platform and block removal. With a working deck of 104,000 sqm, it has lifting capacity of 48,000 tonnes using jacking devices, the widest ship built at 124 meters. After removal the Charlie is to be dismantled at the Able U.K. Yard, not a labour intensive protest though.

All the 4 rigs have now been removed in the Brent Field meaning the loss of several thousand jobs which haven’t been replaced. I worked on them a few times, not my favourite job, flight from Aberdeen to the Shetlands then 1 hour plus in a helicopter.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
The last of the Brent Field rigs is being removed this month, the Charlie, single lift 33000 tonnes by World's largest construction vessel The Pioneering Spirit capable of offshore platform and block removal. With a working deck of 104,000 sqm, it has lifting capacity of 48,000 tonnes using jacking devices, the widest ship built at 124 meters. After removal the Charlie is to be dismantled at the Able U.K. Yard, not a labour intensive protest though.

All the 4 rigs have now been removed in the Brent Field meaning the loss of several thousand jobs which haven’t been replaced. I worked on them a few times, not my favourite job, flight from Aberdeen to the Shetlands then 1 hour plus in a helicopter.

Could have been worse Jamie, from experience ‘cruising’ up there in something that really wasn’t supposed to be there was even even less agreeable…though sea sickness never bothered me from day one….thank f&£k. :laugh:

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PTID wrote:
Apparently a government spokesperson has said that it's bullshit and no decision has been made yet. Or could be testing the water to see what public reaction is.
I'd say we need to pull the plug on net zero anyway, we've made huge strides in cutting carbon emissions already and the weather's f*cking miserable in the UKs little micro climate bubble while globally it was the hottest June on record.

total agree on both points. i want to see it in black and white before i,ll get worked up by a rumour which could be more correct than the ones regarding pools new players. it hasn,t taken them long for this shit to appear even if its only a rumour as many have been expecting it. how many labour voters anyway voted for this type of policy anyway even if they read their manifesto.


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Brent Charlie on its way to Able U.K. to be scrapped, end of an era,
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1735031 ... 468363840/


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It’s swinging at anchor off the Headland, it’s one big piece of metal….looks like a pickup with a production platform in the back..it’s an impressive monster.

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Snowy wrote:
It’s swinging at anchor off the Headland, it’s one big piece of metal….looks like a pickup with a production platform in the back..it’s an impressive monster.



Pioneering Spirit brilliant piece of engineering built in the Far East, Brent Bravo removal albeit it was smaller than the Charlie but the same principal.
https://youtu.be/5UOv5Gc8ioc?feature=shared.


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Is it not just new stuff with all the other identified plans going ahead when economically viable?



Aye, Millibean seems to be reinterpreting what he originally said - was he misquoted or has he been quietly slapped?


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Brian Honour's Left Foot wrote:
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Is it not just new stuff with all the other identified plans going ahead when economically viable?



Aye, Millibean seems to be reinterpreting what he originally said - was he misquoted or has he been quietly slapped?

He’s been shown doing an Ed Davey type stunt stood in front of a wind turbine with a ukrkele singing the praises of wind….jeeez it’s embarassing. :oops:

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Millibean had no hesitation in shafting his brother - so Sir/ Lord Keir better watch his rear.


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By 2030 there will be no more petrol powered cars sold but there will still be millions being used for decades after. It is a complete no brainier that we should not be dependent on Putin and the arabs for their oil when we have reserves of our own.

The green lobby should be concentrating on China, India and Russia if they want to save the planet because the UK is a minor player where pollution is concerned.

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By 2030 there will be no more petrol powered cars sold but there will still be millions being used for decades after. It is a complete no brainier that we should not be dependent on Putin and the arabs for their oil when we have reserves of our own.

The green lobby should be concentrating on China, India and Russia if they want to save the planet because the UK is a minor player where pollution is concerned.

it always sound odd when they announce no petrol or diesel cars will be sold after 2030 but rarely say new ones. i,m sure some will think it will be a ban on any car sold after that date knowing how thick or ill informed some people are.


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Car engines nowadays are good for e few thousand miles, just ask a 33 taxi driver how many miles the car has Don, some over 200000 miles more so the diesels.
The problem of supplying enough electricity to charge up all the electric cars and run the heat pumps hasn’t been resolved is not likely to be for years.


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Car engines nowadays are good for e few thousand miles, just ask a 33 taxi driver how many miles the car has Don, some over 200000 miles more so the diesels.
The problem of supplying enough electricity to charge up all the electric cars and run the heat pumps hasn’t been resolved is not likely to be for years.

they are not bothered as they,ll be able to squeeze more money out of us who refuse to comply with what they want. governments and councils know quite well people will not ditch their cars no matter how much it will cost them even with cheap regular public transport passing their front door. we,ll be like the big boozers of the past who always somehow found money for drink.


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dstanley5 wrote:
By 2030 there will be no more petrol powered cars sold but there will still be millions being used for decades after. It is a complete no brainier that we should not be dependent on Putin and the arabs for their oil when we have reserves of our own.

The green lobby should be concentrating on China, India and Russia if they want to save the planet because the UK is a minor player where pollution is concerned.

it always sound odd when they announce no petrol or diesel cars will be sold after 2030 but rarely say new ones. i,m sure some will think it will be a ban on any car sold after that date knowing how thick or ill informed some people are.

No new petrol or diesel cars will be sold after 2030, you’ll be able to buy second hand petrol or diesel cars, but the law of a dwindling market will put up prices alarmingly and doubtless the faceless ones will bring in laws and pricing to make using a diesel or petrol car prohibitive because it’s what these zealots do.
The only people with cars will be those who can afford them, cutting off a huge swathe of the public from car ownership…we’ll be going backwards, our horizons limited to where the bus or trains go, we’ll actually be regressing…all to placate noisy eco minorities, who from there appearance will have no trouble forking out for an electric milk float, it’s just everybody else who’ll be leaving the roads clear for them.

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