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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 5:51 pm 
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Still stand by we Gunna win it. :lol:

Anutha boring game but we win it in 90 mins
Xtra time or

Penalties.
Come on England.


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Going to have to improve or we will go out tommorow.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Still stand by we Gunna win it. :lol:

Anutha boring game but we win it in 90 mins
Xtra time or

Penalties.
Come on England.


Agree I believe we will win it but it would be a lot easier if the clown played the correct players and a better more attacking system.


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One game at a time for me. Switzerland are the best team we've played so far but I think we'll have enough.


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Just watched Spain v Germany and then Portugal v France. The quality of the passing and movement as well as some impressive defensive work and all round energy and desire to put pressure on the player in possession makes me skeptical that England could win the Euros. The Swiss wont be push overs for a team that were within 45 seconds of losing to Slovakia and only had two shots on target in 120 minutes of football. Anyway, fingers crossed.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Still stand by we Gunna win it. :lol:

Anutha boring game but we win it in 90 mins
Xtra time or

Penalties.
Come on England.


Guaranteed knighthood for Southgate if they do, they hand them out like confetti nowadays.


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Switzerland 2 England 1, unless of course Southgate suddenly decides to play his best players in their proper positions.


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If he plays the same players in wrong positions which I am expecting we have no chance. You can’t be lucky twice!


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Just watched Spain v Germany and then Portugal v France. The quality of the passing and movement as well as some impressive defensive work and all round energy and desire to put pressure on the player in possession makes me skeptical that England could win the Euros. The Swiss wont be push overs for a team that were within 45 seconds of losing to Slovakia and only had two shots on target in 120 minutes of football. Anyway, fingers crossed.

great games if you love watching defenders play. be the same today in the england game i suspect with england just scraping through again but the same as spain and france did yesterday. no prizes for top notch attacking football and excitement if a team actually loses.


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France are in the sem-finals and still haven't scored a goal in open play in the tournament. Unlike England fans, all the French fans care about is the result.


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accrington fan wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Just watched Spain v Germany and then Portugal v France. The quality of the passing and movement as well as some impressive defensive work and all round energy and desire to put pressure on the player in possession makes me skeptical that England could win the Euros. The Swiss wont be push overs for a team that were within 45 seconds of losing to Slovakia and only had two shots on target in 120 minutes of football. Anyway, fingers crossed.

great games if you love watching defenders play. be the same today in the england game i suspect with england just scraping through again but the same as spain and france did yesterday. no prizes for top notch attacking football and excitement if a team actually loses.


The first Spain goal was a superb example of crisp, accurate attacking football. The second Spain goal was an impressive header.


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Let's have it :wink: UTE it's our cup to lose :wink:


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Doing it the hard boring way as usual.
But we still in it.


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England and a Labour win! The feel good factor is back


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 Post subject: Re: England v Switzerland euros
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Southgate gets out of jail yet again, Switzerland opened up the defence on severa occasions and had us on the rack for the last mins of extra time. Five excellent penalties yes - but the one that Pickford fell on must go down as one of the worst in European Championship history. At the end of the day after another tediously boring affair we secured exactly the same result against the Swiss as the Jocks did. Neither the Dutch nor the Turks will lose any sleep over that one.


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Into semi final having a single win in 90 minutes in the competition. It's a good job he's a lucky manager to counter his utter ineptness.


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Into semi final having a single win in 90 minutes in the competition. It's a good job he's a lucky manager to counter his utter ineptness.


I thought today's performance was the best we have been so far although thats not saying much. Why the feck does he keep playing Trippier? Harry Kane is shadow of his former self and doesnt get into the box to convert the chances Saka creates. Over 120 minutes football England scored one goal and made the swiss keeper make ONE save (Rice's shot). Yes we won and I am delighted but I cant help feeling the Dutch will brush us aside. Hope I'm wrong.


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Winning ugly is 100% preferable to losing. Same for me whether it's Pools or England doing the winning. On we go!


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See how fast we passed and moved as soon as we conceded.
Then went back to the boring shit after equaliser.
Would like to see us go for it from the kick off for a change.
Even if we win it id sack Southgate.
This method of play will never bring success again. We carrying a shit load of luck for sure but need to hope it continues.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
See how fast we passed and moved as soon as we conceded.
Then went back to the boring shit after equaliser.
Would like to see us go for it from the kick off for a change.
Even if we win it id sack Southgate.
This method of play will never bring success again. We carrying a shit load of luck for sure but need to hope it continues.


Spot on Kev :wink:


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Southgate gets out of jail yet again, Switzerland opened up the defence on severa occasions and had us on the rack for the last mins of extra time. Five excellent penalties yes - but the one that Pickford fell on must go down as one of the worst in European Championship history. At the end of the day after another tediously boring affair we secured exactly the same result against the Swiss as the Jocks did. Neither the Dutch nor the Turks will lose any sleep over that one.

but england will lose little sleep about playing the dutch either. its a long time since the days of cryff and total football for them. they have looked second rate from the outset just relying on clicking for 15 minutes in games to win. Once this game would have been a cracker but now unless both change tack it might be as memorable as watching titanic two nights on a trot in the hope of a different ending.


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Winning ugly is 100% preferable to losing. Same for me whether it's Pools or England doing the winning. On we go!

its becoming more and more a results game whether we like it or not. managers get the sack because of bad results and not bad play if the team wins. its different for pools than for teams you are not bothered about the results but only want to see an exciting game. we just want wins.


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Pundits said 1st half was a massive improvement for us, I didn't see it myself?
Thought we were slow, predictable, and ineffectual throughout. All of the top sides play keep ball, but the others play a lot higher, a lot quicker, and forward when a runner makes a move. Pickford seems to be the lynching of most of our possession phases, I'll doubt any other keeper has had more touches and in fact he probably had more than some of our midfielders and way more than Kane.


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This has to be the most disappointing road to making the last 4 ever :roll: :laugh:


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Have to feel sorry a bit for those players missing the only penalty in a game.You work your socks off all the game and miss from the spot sending your country out...don't suppose he was up for breakfast this morning either . sadx


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Have to feel sorry a bit for those players missing the only penalty in a game.You work your socks off all the game and miss from the spot sending your country out...don't suppose he was up for breakfast this morning either . sadx

there are so many of these shootouts now in the game that situation is getting deminished slightly as they and fans know that somewhere down the line its going to happen to one player. was it crawford who missed the penalty that stopped us going to wembley but he didn,t get the stick from fans that might have been the case when shootouts first started.


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Pundits said 1st half was a massive improvement for us, I didn't see it myself?
Thought we were slow, predictable, and ineffectual throughout. All of the top sides play keep ball, but the others play a lot higher, a lot quicker, and forward when a runner makes a move. Pickford seems to be the lynching of most of our possession phases, I'll doubt any other keeper has had more touches and in fact he probably had more than some of our midfielders and way more than Kane.


You seem to have been watching a different Euro 24 to me. Spain are the best team in the competition by a distance. Portugal looked good too but couldn't score in 120 minutes against France and are out. Germany can count themselves unlucky to get a quarter-final draw against Spain. Would fancy England against any of the rest - including boring, boring France in a final.

Th Dutch have blown hot and cold. If they beat they're beat England on Wednesday they're better than us. If they don't, they're not.


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Well it was a slightly better performance, still 2nd best at times to the suisse, we made a couple of bang average ex prem players look really good. How we beat the dutch playing like this god knows but at least we are through. Kane might as well not be on the pitch the way we play.


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Pundits said 1st half was a massive improvement for us, I didn't see it myself?
Thought we were slow, predictable, and ineffectual throughout. All of the top sides play keep ball, but the others play a lot higher, a lot quicker, and forward when a runner makes a move. Pickford seems to be the lynching of most of our possession phases, I'll doubt any other keeper has had more touches and in fact he probably had more than some of our midfielders and way more than Kane.


You seem to have been watching a different Euro 24 to me. Spain are the best team in the competition by a distance. Portugal looked good too but couldn't score in 120 minutes against France and are out. Germany can count themselves unlucky to get a quarter-final draw against Spain. Would fancy England against any of the rest - including boring, boring France in a final.

Th Dutch have blown hot and cold. If they beat they're beat England on Wednesday they're better than us. If they don't, they're not.

thats the problem of all knock out football. one team is only better than the other on the day and thats if you class being better is the result going your way. at least its good now that the swiss are not going to win it as the scots would be back saying as they were no better than them on the day so things cannot be as bad as the nasty english are saying.


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Well it was a slightly better performance, still 2nd best at times to the suisse, we made a couple of bang average ex prem players look really good. How we beat the dutch playing like this god knows but at least we are through. Kane might as well not be on the pitch the way we play.

and even the turks brought on a championship player from west brom as sub. something you,d never imagine happening with england even with less top flight players they have to pick from compared with 30 years back.


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The ball going back to our keeper from a free kick just outside their area, and even worse from a short corner tells us how woeful we are as a footballing spectacle. The result is all important but it's a f*cking hard watch.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Well it was a slightly better performance, still 2nd best at times to the suisse, we made a couple of bang average ex prem players look really good. How we beat the dutch playing like this god knows but at least we are through. Kane might as well not be on the pitch the way we play.


Xhaka is a world-class midfielder. He was very good in his last couple of seasons with Arsenal and one of the main men in Leverkusen's unbeaten season in Germany.


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So Xhaka is decent in the mighty Swiss team and who else?
Before this tournament many would have said that Rice, Foden, Saka, Lane, Bellingham, wouldn't look out of place at any top club side. On showings so far there's only Saka looked consistently decent and the rest less than ordinary.


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Maybe Southgate is holding back in the early stages so as now to give too much away before the semis and final.
We are in the semis so whatever he is doing seems to be working.
The Belgians, Germans and Italians would willingly swap places.

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All that matters is that we win the trophy and break through our glass ceiling.

Once we win one then more will come.

Southgates tactics and decisions are unpopular with just about everyone except the players. They're sticking with him and it's working.

Southgate has now won more knockout matches at a major tournament than all other managers combined since 66.

Ive accepted that we aren't going to dominate offensively or play attractive football which eases the frustration.

Italy, Belgium, France, Spain, Germany & Portugal all have very good squads, similar to us, it isn't an easy to continually achieve semi and final positions in major tournaments.

I do think we will win this tournament and it's Southgates stubbornness that is contributing to that. He keeps things simple, solid, strong and boring because he has 5-6 players who can score with a moment of brilliance out of nothing.

So far Bellingham and Saka have done it but there's also Foden, Kane & Palmer who can do it too.


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The opposition England have faced has hardly been first rate but we have struggled. We were 45 seconds from losing to Slovakia. Southgate has been lucky rather than capable. Holland are the first top class team we have faced and it will be interesting to see if this game follows the usual trend of England doing OK in tournaments but then losing to the first decent team they meet. If England do manage to win the tournament it will be despite Southgate rather than because of him.


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So Xhaka is decent in the mighty Swiss team and who else?
Before this tournament many would have said that Rice, Foden, Saka, Lane, Bellingham, wouldn't look out of place at any top club side. On showings so far there's only Saka looked consistently decent and the rest less than ordinary.


Harry Lane? He was top scorer in the Bundesliga last season. Jude Bellingham? Was Real Madrid's top scorer and won a Champions League winners medal with them at the age of 20. They're already doing great things at top club sides. :roll: :laugh:


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Exactly, outstanding for their clubs but ordinary fir their country, and in Kane's case simply anonymous.


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PTID wrote:
So Xhaka is decent in the mighty Swiss team and who else?
Before this tournament many would have said that Rice, Foden, Saka, Lane, Bellingham, wouldn't look out of place at any top club side. On showings so far there's only Saka looked consistently decent and the rest less than ordinary.


Harry Lane? He was top scorer in the Bundesliga last season. Jude Bellingham? Was Real Madrid's top scorer and won a Champions League winners medal with them at the age of 20. They're already doing great things at top club sides. :roll: :laugh:


I think the most consistent player for England is Rice. Very underrated goes about his game quietly and professionally. Top player in my book. :wink:


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The opposition England have faced has hardly been first rate but we have struggled. We were 45 seconds from losing to Slovakia. Southgate has been lucky rather than capable. Holland are the first top class team we have faced and it will be interesting to see if this game follows the usual trend of England doing OK in tournaments but then losing to the first decent team they meet. If England do manage to win the tournament it will be despite Southgate rather than because of him.


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Into semi final having a single win in 90 minutes in the competition. It's a good job he's a lucky manager to counter his utter ineptness.

Portugal won it in 2016 with one win in regular time for whole tournament.

It's certainly not enjoyable to watch but reaching 3 semi finals in 4 tournaments looks good on any managers CV. Hopefully he can be lucky for two more games then he can retire.


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So defensive this international football.
Perfect opportunity for Southgate to rip up the script n attack our way to glory.
Probably a penalty shoot out Wednesday.
Ya see better entertainment in the Vanarama n Emmerdale Farm.


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Exactly, outstanding for their clubs but ordinary fir their country, and in Kane's case simply anonymous.

but you get the same in other sports as well plus the other way round where they do the job on the international stage but look bang average in league fixtures. could put a few of the 1966 winning side in that catogary. wilson. cohan and even bobby moore were not great league players but were outstanding for england.


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Normally there's 1 or 2 who underperformed for their country, at the moment we've got 5 or 6 underperformed. If we could get to just 1 or 2 we'd be capable of outplaying everyone at the tournament.


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Flying Hogans wrote:
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So Xhaka is decent in the mighty Swiss team and who else?
Before this tournament many would have said that Rice, Foden, Saka, Lane, Bellingham, wouldn't look out of place at any top club side. On showings so far there's only Saka looked consistently decent and the rest less than ordinary.


Harry Lane? He was top scorer in the Bundesliga last season. Jude Bellingham? Was Real Madrid's top scorer and won a Champions League winners medal with them at the age of 20. They're already doing great things at top club sides. :roll: :laugh:


I think the most consistent player for England is Rice. Very underrated goes about his game quietly and professionally. Top player in my book. :wink:


Agree about Rice. Foden is at least improving - he had his best game so far against Switzerland but still isn't doing enough to justify being an automatic pick.

As for Bellingham and Kane, they're blowing hot and cold but either of them could still win the Golden Boot. They've both got a couple of goals (which is 2 more than Mbappe :laugh: ) and of the teams left in the tournament only Gakpo is on 3.

The thing that worries me is England's defence. Not commanding enough in the air and Trippier and Walker both below par. They'll have their work cut out against Holland.


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Flying Hogans wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
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So Xhaka is decent in the mighty Swiss team and who else?
Before this tournament many would have said that Rice, Foden, Saka, Lane, Bellingham, wouldn't look out of place at any top club side. On showings so far there's only Saka looked consistently decent and the rest less than ordinary.


Harry Lane? He was top scorer in the Bundesliga last season. Jude Bellingham? Was Real Madrid's top scorer and won a Champions League winners medal with them at the age of 20. They're already doing great things at top club sides. :roll: :laugh:


I think the most consistent player for England is Rice. Very underrated goes about his game quietly and professionally. Top player in my book. :wink:


Agree about Rice. Foden is at least improving - he had his best game so far against Switzerland but still isn't doing enough to justify being an automatic pick.

As for Bellingham and Kane, they're blowing hot and cold but either of them could still win the Golden Boot. They've both got a couple of goals (which is 2 more than Mbappe :laugh: ) and of the teams left in the tournament only Gakpo is on 3.

The thing that worries me is England's defence. Not commanding enough in the air and Trippier and Walker both below par. They'll have their work cut out against Holland.



I still believe we will still the competition the only difference I was hoping we would win on merit not luck. :roll:


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"I still believe we will still the competition the only difference I was hoping we would win on merit not luck.”

Leggie, How many games have you been involved in (non playing) where you have thought, How the fuck did we get away with that.


Quite a few meself.


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Best chance is if France can grind their way through Spain who have a few out
Not that we are favored to beat holland but can’t see us laying a glove on Spain if we both get through


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The G.E. has now been and gone now it will be ‘Sir Gareth’ and the England team in your face till when ever.


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