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 Post subject: Jude Bellingham.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 5:30 am 
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Could be in bother after his antics, if UEFA have their England hating head on he will get a ban.


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 Post subject: Re: Jude Bellingham.
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Could be in bother after his antics, if UEFA have their England hating head on he will get a ban.

You could say it was a ‘load of balls’…. bbolt

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 Post subject: Re: Jude Bellingham.
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That's what happens when you get way too much way too quickly in life. He is a very good player but he now thinks his name is Jude England banghead The only player for me who has performed to his ability is Declan Rice the rest apart from Marc Guehi who is having a decent tournament are useless. Yes Bellingham has scored two brilliant and very important goals but what has he contributed to general play over the four games? If he gets banned it's all his own fault because you cannot be doing disgusting acts like that on live t.v. infront of Children. It's well and truly time to give the Palmers & Gordons a starting place but will clueless do that ? I have my doubts...I think we all agree its home time after the Switzerland game unless changes are made from the start. I still say England will win the tournament and that's with the worst manager in the competition. If we don't it's a disgrace when you look at that squad and if we do Shitgate goes down in history as the second most successful manager in our history. banghead


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 Post subject: Re: Jude Bellingham.
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Leggie43 wrote:
That's what happens when you get way too much way too quickly in life. He is a very good player but he now thinks his name is Jude England banghead The only player for me who has performed to his ability is Declan Rice the rest apart from Marc Guehi who is having a decent tournament are useless. Yes Bellingham has scored two brilliant and very important goals but what has he contributed to general play over the four games? If he gets banned it's all his own fault because you cannot be doing disgusting acts like that on live t.v. infront of Children. It's well and truly time to give the Palmers & Gordons a starting place but will clueless do that ? I have my doubts...I think we all agree its home time after the Switzerland game unless changes are made from the start. I still say England will win the tournament and that's with the worst manager in the competition. If we don't it's a disgrace when you look at that squad and if we do Shitgate goes down in history as the second most successful manager in our history. banghead

really southgate just cannot win even if his team does win the thing. his detrractors will never warm to him or like him because so many want perfection by not just winning but doing it with style. that includes football fans and the ones who find the game only in big competitions.


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 Post subject: Re: Jude Bellingham.
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accrington fan wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
That's what happens when you get way too much way too quickly in life. He is a very good player but he now thinks his name is Jude England banghead The only player for me who has performed to his ability is Declan Rice the rest apart from Marc Guehi who is having a decent tournament are useless. Yes Bellingham has scored two brilliant and very important goals but what has he contributed to general play over the four games? If he gets banned it's all his own fault because you cannot be doing disgusting acts like that on live t.v. infront of Children. It's well and truly time to give the Palmers & Gordons a starting place but will clueless do that ? I have my doubts...I think we all agree its home time after the Switzerland game unless changes are made from the start. I still say England will win the tournament and that's with the worst manager in the competition. If we don't it's a disgrace when you look at that squad and if we do Shitgate goes down in history as the second most successful manager in our history. banghead

really southgate just cannot win even if his team does win the thing. his detrractors will never warm to him or like him because so many want perfection by not just winning but doing it with style. that includes football fans and the ones who find the game only in big competitions.


Southgate cannot win because he is clueless simple really. :roll: We don't want perfection we want a knowledgeable international manager. :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Jude Bellingham.
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Leggie43 wrote:
That's what happens when you get way too much way too quickly in life. He is a very good player but he now thinks his name is Jude England banghead The only player for me who has performed to his ability is Declan Rice the rest apart from Marc Guehi who is having a decent tournament are useless. Yes Bellingham has scored two brilliant and very important goals but what has he contributed to general play over the four games? If he gets banned it's all his own fault because you cannot be doing disgusting acts like that on live t.v. infront of Children. It's well and truly time to give the Palmers & Gordons a starting place but will clueless do that ? I have my doubts...I think we all agree its home time after the Switzerland game unless changes are made from the start. I still say England will win the tournament and that's with the worst manager in the competition. If we don't it's a disgrace when you look at that squad and if we do Shitgate goes down in history as the second most successful manager in our history. banghead


I'm still optimistic as well.
Maybe we are both crazy. therethere :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Jude Bellingham.
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
That's what happens when you get way too much way too quickly in life. He is a very good player but he now thinks his name is Jude England banghead The only player for me who has performed to his ability is Declan Rice the rest apart from Marc Guehi who is having a decent tournament are useless. Yes Bellingham has scored two brilliant and very important goals but what has he contributed to general play over the four games? If he gets banned it's all his own fault because you cannot be doing disgusting acts like that on live t.v. infront of Children. It's well and truly time to give the Palmers & Gordons a starting place but will clueless do that ? I have my doubts...I think we all agree its home time after the Switzerland game unless changes are made from the start. I still say England will win the tournament and that's with the worst manager in the competition. If we don't it's a disgrace when you look at that squad and if we do Shitgate goes down in history as the second most successful manager in our history. banghead


I'm still optimistic as well.
Maybe we are both crazy. therethere :lol:


Well you do also follow Artlepool :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: Jude Bellingham.
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Leggie43 wrote:
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really southgate just cannot win even if his team does win the thing. his detrractors will never warm to him or like him because so many want perfection by not just winning but doing it with style. that includes football fans and the ones who find the game only in big competitions.


Southgate cannot win because he is clueless simple really. :roll: We don't want perfection we want a knowledgeable international manager. :roll:

do not rate him myself as he is a type of person i just cannot warm to like many of the newer breed in the game. however his record does say he cannot be that clueless especially if you take meaningless friendly games out of the equasion. i,d really love to call him clueless but the win/lose situation shows he isn,t. think so many didn,t want him getting the job in the first place and would be the same if pools appointed a manager who was disliked at the outset who would equally have a difficult time to win many fans over if our performances were not as good as our results.


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 Post subject: Re: Jude Bellingham.
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accrington fan wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
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really southgate just cannot win even if his team does win the thing. his detrractors will never warm to him or like him because so many want perfection by not just winning but doing it with style. that includes football fans and the ones who find the game only in big competitions.


Southgate cannot win because he is clueless simple really. :roll: We don't want perfection we want a knowledgeable international manager. :roll:

do not rate him myself as he is a type of person i just cannot warm to like many of the newer breed in the game. however his record does say he cannot be that clueless especially if you take meaningless friendly games out of the equasion. i,d really love to call him clueless but the win/lose situation shows he isn,t. think so many didn,t want him getting the job in the first place and would be the same if pools appointed a manager who was disliked at the outset who would equally have a difficult time to win many fans over if our performances were not as good as our results.


True Accy but look at the players he has had to choose from compared with previous England managers. Our lass could of got those results from the players avaliable and she doesn't have a scooby do about tactics etc :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Jude Bellingham.
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Leaving aside personalities and likes and dislikes. Just remember how England have played: slow, boring sideways passing and if taking a lead, immedietly defending even against the likes of Sebia. We were about 45 seconds away from losing to Slovakia. We had two shots on target in 120 minutes of footbal TWO SHOTS ON TARGET. All tournament, experienced ex England players have urged team changes because it is obvious England are poor but Southgate always starts the same team with the exception of one midfield player that he chops and changes. Regardless of Southgate as a personality, he is absolute rubbish as a football manager.


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 Post subject: Re: Jude Bellingham.
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On Bellingham, he needs to get a grip on his antics. Not only the silly trick he is in hot water for but the way he bodychecked another player in the first game and continuously questioning the referee. The Refs have been instructed captain only but JB is ignoring that.
He is a talented lad and it would be a shame if that was overshadowed by his belligerent attitude. Someone needs to take him to one side and whisper in his ear before he gets himself a reputation. Nowt wrong with having an aggressive side to him but he needs to be able to control and channel that aggression.
He's still relatively young but his reputation makes him a target. He has to learn how to handle that and quickly.
That's the impression I get anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: Jude Bellingham.
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The authorities should act IMO. You can’t have every goal scorer in football going around making obscene gestures, Bellingham, quite simply is an idiot who needs to grow up fast.

A fine and some kind of suspended punishment would suffice, but if he gets a one game ban then there’s only one person to blame.


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 Post subject: Re: Jude Bellingham.
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Infidel wrote:
The authorities should act IMO. You can’t have every goal scorer in football going around making obscene gestures, Bellingham, quite simply is an idiot who needs to grow up fast.

A fine and some kind of suspended punishment would suffice, but if he gets a one game ban then there’s only one person to blame.

might be good for his future to get a ban and then the press might not build him up too much before they get the pleasure of knocking him down. without a long life experiance it cannot be easy for a young lad to cope with all the publicity he gets and what goes with it. looking back how would we all react in similar circumstances as the cloghies do not exist anymore to sort him out.


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 Post subject: Re: Jude Bellingham.
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All he needs is a little guidance not punishment imo. I don't think there's a player who's ever lived who would've been able to control their emotions in those circumstances. There's nothing wrong with a player showing arrogance and aggression channelled in the right way, it didn't hold Rooney or Robaldo back.
He's got the potential to be one of England's greatest ever players and he's probably at the right club to develop him to his max.


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 Post subject: Re: Jude Bellingham.
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Infidel wrote:
The authorities should act IMO. You can’t have every goal scorer in football going around making obscene gestures, Bellingham, quite simply is an idiot who needs to grow up fast.

A fine and some kind of suspended punishment would suffice, but if he gets a one game ban then there’s only one person to blame.


It will be a fine, Possibly suspended.


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 Post subject: Re: Jude Bellingham.
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Leggie43 wrote:
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Leggie43 wrote:
That's what happens when you get way too much way too quickly in life. He is a very good player but he now thinks his name is Jude England banghead The only player for me who has performed to his ability is Declan Rice the rest apart from Marc Guehi who is having a decent tournament are useless. Yes Bellingham has scored two brilliant and very important goals but what has he contributed to general play over the four games? If he gets banned it's all his own fault because you cannot be doing disgusting acts like that on live t.v. infront of Children. It's well and truly time to give the Palmers & Gordons a starting place but will clueless do that ? I have my doubts...I think we all agree its home time after the Switzerland game unless changes are made from the start. I still say England will win the tournament and that's with the worst manager in the competition. If we don't it's a disgrace when you look at that squad and if we do Shitgate goes down in history as the second most successful manager in our history. banghead

really southgate just cannot win even if his team does win the thing. his detrractors will never warm to him or like him because so many want perfection by not just winning but doing it with style. that includes football fans and the ones who find the game only in big competitions.


Southgate cannot win because he is clueless simple really. :roll: We don't want perfection we want a knowledgeable international manager. :roll:


If a pools manager continued to not change things despite it clealy not working against opposition, who should be way below our standard he would get slated. How we are in tge quarters playing the way we have is luck pools never have.


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 Post subject: Re: Jude Bellingham.
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
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really southgate just cannot win even if his team does win the thing. his detrractors will never warm to him or like him because so many want perfection by not just winning but doing it with style. that includes football fans and the ones who find the game only in big competitions.


Southgate cannot win because he is clueless simple really. :roll: We don't want perfection we want a knowledgeable international manager. :roll:


If a pools manager continued to not change things despite it clealy not working against opposition, who should be way below our standard he would get slated. How we are in tge quarters playing the way we have is luck pools never have.

there are two different points there. if pools in there first 4 games win two and draw two most would be happy even if they feel they should be playing better. as for luck england always get lucky in the teams they face in having to qualify and the group and knock out stages where the so called big teams knock each other out and england get one of the rest. thats where the thing of england getting beaten once they play a good team comes into it. they never have to play anyone really decent until the back end of the competition to the point of you think its fixed. better shut up before i start talking like a scottish football fan.


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 Post subject: Re: Jude Bellingham.
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England have got lucky, Spain play Germany so 1 of the better teams goes out, leaving the path free for England. As far as Scotland they were unlucky with the penalty decision but their manager Clarke is in the same mould as Southgate, defensive minded albeit they don’t have the quality players to chose from like Southgate but even Clarke did his tactics wouldn’t change.


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But if you discount extra time as is the case in NL then we'd have 1 win and 3 draws and we wouldn't be happy.


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England have got lucky, Spain play Germany so 1 of the better teams goes out, leaving the path free for England. As far as Scotland they were unlucky with the penalty decision but their manager Clarke is in the same mould as Southgate, defensive minded albeit they don’t have the quality players to chose from like Southgate but even Clarke did his tactics wouldn’t change.

feel its a british disease where teams firstly go out not to lose rather take risks to win. we,ll see this next season with the majority rolling up to the vic for a goaless draw and the hope of nicking a goal to win. they,d be equally happy with just taking something back home with them no matter how we play ourselves on the day. sometimes when teams are against it during a gam this is fine but not hen you go out to play like that before a ball is kicked .the euro,s need a turkey type of side to win it as england or a similar one winning it will just underline the safety first attitudes in league games all the way to the bottom of the pyramid. they can get away with it as at the moment fans are prepared for anything to watch football especially a winning team.


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But if you discount extra time as is the case in NL then we'd have 1 win and 3 draws and we wouldn't be happy.

somebody would come on here though and say its 4 games undefeated and positive on what we saw last season. bloody stats eh like 9 games undefeated being thrown around which is 9 drawn games and 9 games without a win.


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If Pools played like England crowds would drop like a stone, we can sit in the comfort of our own homes and watch the excitement of the grass growing.


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If Pools played like England crowds would drop like a stone, we can sit in the comfort of our own homes and watch the excitement of the grass growing.

not really sure if that would be correct if we were winning games. feel its all about winning for many fans now than being entertained unless you go as a neutral. if say there was a cracking game at the vic for a neutral and an away fan where we lost 5-4 it would be in meltdown on social media about the goals conceeded and little about our goals and end to end entertainment.


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Should've clarified, if we played like England (boring side to side across back 5, only 8 shots on target in 4 games) against crap opposition and had a win and 3 draws from 4 games many wouldn't bother going back imo


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Should've clarified, if we played like England (boring side to side across back 5, only 8 shots on target in 4 games) against crap opposition and had a win and 3 draws from 4 games many wouldn't bother going back imo

yes, its become a results business and nothing more i,m afraid. feel we have all signed up for that now when really exciting games can easily be counted on one hand with a couple of fingers missing.


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Why is it taking so long for UEfA to decide if Bellingham is going to fined, suspended etc, are they repeatedly watching the VAR replay ?


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Why is it taking so long for UEfA to decide if Bellingham is going to fined, suspended etc, are they repeatedly watching the VAR replay ?

be interesting if action is taken against the turkish player who gestured a sign banned in some countries after he scored quicker than bellingham. no matter what if there are sanctions that will differ it will fuel the debate of UEFA being anti english or pro bigger countries over the smaller ones.


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In the old days all you got was a fist pump or two - and that was enough - until Simon Walton came along.


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Brian Honour's Left Foot wrote:
In the old days all you got was a fist pump or two - and that was enough - until Simon Walton came along.

waiting for a side to employ a director and a couple of assistants to organise a goal celebration. now if a player didn,t over celebrate he,d be accused of not caring by some and only interested in his wage packet. you cannot win em all now.


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That is so true Mr A


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 Post subject: Re: Jude Bellingham.
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He got a 30,000 Euro fine and a suspended 1 game ban subject to 1-year on probation.


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Flying Hogans wrote:
He got a 30,000 Euro fine and a suspended 1 game ban subject to 1-year on probation.

who will be his probation officer, joey barton.


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He got a 30,000 Euro fine and a suspended 1 game ban subject to 1-year on probation.


Don't see the point in given him a 30,000 fine sctatchinghead It's like giving one of us a £5 fine. banghead


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