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Whens the Vanarama fixtures out?


I think it's the 10th July, so that's 3 weeks today.

First fixture prediction, Sutton or Yeovil away!!

southend away who we,ll hammer only for the points to be deducted a few weeks later when they go bust.

Don’t forget the injuries to the new signings, it’s traditional.

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I am starting to get a bit pissed off by all this election stuff on the tv/radio.
Surely 2 weeks would have been enough to hear all the views. Thank god for the Euros.

well i,m not pissed off with election leaflets, the door bell being wrung and seeing a face on the billboards because none of that has happened yet. is that seen as old hat nowadays with social media and american style tv electioning.


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The average cost of an MP is £203k.(Tax-Payers Alliance)
Have we had value for money from our MPs over the years.........i think not.

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The average cost of an MP is £203k.(Tax-Payers Alliance)
Have we had value for money from our MPs over the years.........i think not.

never though some pools players would ever been compared to MP,s.


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The average cost of an MP is £203k.(Tax-Payers Alliance)
Have we had value for money from our MPs over the years.........i think not.

never though some pools players would ever been compared to MP,s.


Well footballers are also known to drop bollicks, so they have that in common at least.

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I watched Farage on his half hour question and answer session on Question Time, he was asked how Reform UK would stop the channel crossings. He answered Reform U.K. would withdraw from the ECHR and the Royal Navy would patrol the Cannel and turn the boats back.
Isn’t there an unwritten law if people are stranded at sea you are obliged to rescue them ?


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I watched Farage on his half hour question and answer session on Question Time, he was asked how Reform UK would stop the channel crossings. He answered Reform U.K. would withdraw from the ECHR and the Royal Navy would patrol the Cannel and turn the boats back.
Isn’t there an unwritten law if people are stranded at sea you are obliged to rescue them ?

Tell that to the Greeks…they’ve started doing it.

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I watched Farage on his half hour question and answer session on Question Time, he was asked how Reform UK would stop the channel crossings. He answered Reform U.K. would withdraw from the ECHR and the Royal Navy would patrol the Cannel and turn the boats back.
Isn’t there an unwritten law if people are stranded at sea you are obliged to rescue them ?



Hows about bringing the French police and coastguard to justice first?? ..We need to see them in court on manslaughter charges, jamie.


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The French do t rescue these "stranded at sea" folk and take them back to Calais, if they're coming from France we should turn them back if it's safe to do so. If they're truly in danger we should pick them up and return them to their departure port. None of these migrants are true refugees, they're not in any danger in France and that should be thei place for claiming asylum.


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I watched Farage on his half hour question and answer session on Question Time, he was asked how Reform UK would stop the channel crossings. He answered Reform U.K. would withdraw from the ECHR and the Royal Navy would patrol the Cannel and turn the boats back.
Isn’t there an unwritten law if people are stranded at sea you are obliged to rescue them ?

in the same way mountain rescue have to spend time and risk their own lives with climbers who decide on their own to go out in weather when they should stay at home. if people are stupid enough to go out to sea in a vessel unsuitable for the journey or in weather that is bad they should have responsibily for their own actions and not expect others to pick up the pieces. there are enough accidents about without trying to create them.


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The French do t rescue these "stranded at sea" folk and take them back to Calais, if they're coming from France we should turn them back if it's safe to do so. If they're truly in danger we should pick them up and return them to their departure port. None of these migrants are true refugees, they're not in any danger in France and that should be thei place for claiming asylum.

if they were true refugees you would see people of all ages and families amongst them. the asians kicked out of uganda by amin came hear as families and not just men between certain ages which are the real massive percentage of this lot.


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The French do t rescue these "stranded at sea" folk and take them back to Calais, if they're coming from France we should turn them back if it's safe to do so. If they're truly in danger we should pick them up and return them to their departure port. None of these migrants are true refugees, they're not in any danger in France and that should be thei place for claiming asylum.

if they were true refugees you would see people of all ages and families amongst them. the asians kicked out of uganda by amin came hear as families and not just men between certain ages which are the real massive percentage of this lot.

The farce that is the crossings is shown by the French vessel meeting the British vessel at their mid channel rendezvous to take over baby sitting them….it’s all pre planned..
Surprised the RNLI haven’t swapped their lifeboats in Kent for some refurbished ferries…. :roll:

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Farage was interviewed by Trevor Phillips on Sky this morning. The presenter had to apologise about the word Paki being used. Guess what, Farage didn't say it but Trevor did. Imagine the uproar if Farage had said it.


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The noise about this actor bloke and Channel 4 stinks a bit…Will Channel 4 be doing undercover reports on all the major Party’s…?
Somehow I doubt it.. banghead

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This country is failing…as the philosopher said…

We had an Empire with an Emperor

We then had a Kingdom with a King.

Now we have a country with a ….. bbolt

One leaving, one arriving. :roll:

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Farage was interviewed by Trevor Phillips on Sky this morning. The presenter had to apologise about the word Paki being used. Guess what, Farage didn't say it but Trevor did. Imagine the uproar if Farage had said it.

so what if he did it, its just a shortened word and no proof at all the person saying it is a racist. totally sick of todays world where even a pakistani shop keeper does not mind his shop being called a paki shop if people spend money there including the priveleged whites. does calling someone from manchester a manc or a londoner a cockney really make any difference in their lives.


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"Breaking News" -Big queues are forming at Calais for the arrival of the new Labour government.. bbolt


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Farage was interviewed by Trevor Phillips on Sky this morning. The presenter had to apologise about the word Paki being used. Guess what, Farage didn't say it but Trevor did. Imagine the uproar if Farage had said it.

so what if he did it, its just a shortened word and no proof at all the person saying it is a racist. totally sick of todays world where even a pakistani shop keeper does not mind his shop being called a paki shop if people spend money there including the priveleged whites. does calling someone from manchester a manc or a londoner a cockney really make any difference in their lives.


Or a Scot a Jock, A Welshman Taffy, An Irishman Paddy, A Frenchman a Frog,A Gernan a Kraut,An American a Yank, A Yorkshireman a Yorkie etc etc etc etc.
Everybody who is remotely interested in football will notice the trend is not to call each other by their official name but a version of it, like Feths, Fergie, Mols, etc. It's what happens and it never ever annoys or insults the recipient, so why should it bother anybody else. Is anybody bothered whether the Aussies call us Poms or not. I'm very proud to be referred to as a Monkey hanger, even though I wasn't there or had owt to do with the event.
When are we going to be told not to refer to our children as kids, cos it inevitably will happen.

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Farage was interviewed by Trevor Phillips on Sky this morning. The presenter had to apologise about the word Paki being used. Guess what, Farage didn't say it but Trevor did. Imagine the uproar if Farage had said it.

so what if he did it, its just a shortened word and no proof at all the person saying it is a racist. totally sick of todays world where even a pakistani shop keeper does not mind his shop being called a paki shop if people spend money there including the priveleged whites. does calling someone from manchester a manc or a londoner a cockney really make any difference in their lives.


Or a Scot a Jock, A Welshman Taffy, An Irishman Paddy, A Frenchman a Frog,A Gernan a Kraut,An American a Yank, A Yorkshireman a Yorkie etc etc etc etc.
Everybody who is remotely interested in football will notice the trend is not to call each other by their official name but a version of it, like Feths, Fergie, Mols, etc. It's what happens and it never ever annoys or insults the recipient, so why should it bother anybody else. Is anybody bothered whether the Aussies call us Poms or not. I'm very proud to be referred to as a Monkey hanger, even though I wasn't there or had owt to do with the event.
When are we going to be told not to refer to our children as kids, cos it inevitably will happen.


Come off it. We're all grown men and some of us have been around for a long time. I don't recall anybody, ever, talking to me about 'that nice Paki down the road,' but I've heard it used as an insult hundreds as times, usually with bloody or f****** in front of it.


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"Breaking News" -Big queues are forming at Calais for the arrival of the new Labour government.. bbolt


Marine Le Pen..our new friend or foe?

She’ll do what she thinks best for her country, no different to Macron, he just packaged it more discreetly…no chance of us having that problem to wrestle with with our politicians.

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Flying Hogans wrote:
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NortonPoolie63 wrote:
Farage was interviewed by Trevor Phillips on Sky this morning. The presenter had to apologise about the word Paki being used. Guess what, Farage didn't say it but Trevor did. Imagine the uproar if Farage had said it.

so what if he did it, its just a shortened word and no proof at all the person saying it is a racist. totally sick of todays world where even a pakistani shop keeper does not mind his shop being called a paki shop if people spend money there including the priveleged whites. does calling someone from manchester a manc or a londoner a cockney really make any difference in their lives.


Or a Scot a Jock, A Welshman Taffy, An Irishman Paddy, A Frenchman a Frog,A Gernan a Kraut,An American a Yank, A Yorkshireman a Yorkie etc etc etc etc.
Everybody who is remotely interested in football will notice the trend is not to call each other by their official name but a version of it, like Feths, Fergie, Mols, etc. It's what happens and it never ever annoys or insults the recipient, so why should it bother anybody else. Is anybody bothered whether the Aussies call us Poms or not. I'm very proud to be referred to as a Monkey hanger, even though I wasn't there or had owt to do with the event.
When are we going to be told not to refer to our children as kids, cos it inevitably will happen.


Come off it. We're all grown men and some of us have been around for a long time. I don't recall anybody, ever, talking to me about 'that nice Paki down the road,' but I've heard it used as an insult hundreds as times, usually with bloody or f****** in front of it.


To come off something you first have to be on it. In my lifetime I have probably called the Welsh(as a nation) more than any other but not because they are Welsh but because when they beat England at Rugby you meet one of their smirking faces at every corner but when we beat them you don't see one for a month. I still have a pint with them and count them among my friends. I don't think I insult them in any way though.
I am now going to give you a first then because I have a friend who is a Paki (and he refers to himself as such) who is an extremely nice man and I would defend him to the hilt. So there you are you now have someone who refers to a Paki in a favourable way. I also have Indian friends and Bangladeshi friends and those three nations call each other far more than we ever will.
I don't call anybody because of their race creed or colour. I judge people by their behaviour.
The only exception I am guilty of is I can't stand the latest trend of having Female commentators or pundits at Male football matches. I have tried talking to myself over this but my inner self remains adamant. It just doesn't sit right with me. I wouldn't say no to most of them though being of the red blooded variety. :laugh:

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derwent wrote:
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NortonPoolie63 wrote:
Farage was interviewed by Trevor Phillips on Sky this morning. The presenter had to apologise about the word Paki being used. Guess what, Farage didn't say it but Trevor did. Imagine the uproar if Farage had said it.

so what if he did it, its just a shortened word and no proof at all the person saying it is a racist. totally sick of todays world where even a pakistani shop keeper does not mind his shop being called a paki shop if people spend money there including the priveleged whites. does calling someone from manchester a manc or a londoner a cockney really make any difference in their lives.


Or a Scot a Jock, A Welshman Taffy, An Irishman Paddy, A Frenchman a Frog,A Gernan a Kraut,An American a Yank, A Yorkshireman a Yorkie etc etc etc etc.
Everybody who is remotely interested in football will notice the trend is not to call each other by their official name but a version of it, like Feths, Fergie, Mols, etc. It's what happens and it never ever annoys or insults the recipient, so why should it bother anybody else. Is anybody bothered whether the Aussies call us Poms or not. I'm very proud to be referred to as a Monkey hanger, even though I wasn't there or had owt to do with the event.
When are we going to be told not to refer to our children as kids, cos it inevitably will happen.


Come off it. We're all grown men and some of us have been around for a long time. I don't recall anybody, ever, talking to me about 'that nice Paki down the road,' but I've heard it used as an insult hundreds as times, usually with bloody or f****** in front of it.

Admittedly some will, but a lot of people do use it without malice, in reality it’s never the name, it’s the intent of the user.
When my old feller was at sea as engineer, all his engine room fetchers and carriers were Yemeni’s and some Pakistani’s from whom he obtained his genuine toxic curry powder and accessories, but called them Paks or the ‘Aden lads’ for the Yemeni’s…but when you work with people in that close context you tend to not notice things like that…and I anticipate there’d have some ‘rich’ language when things weren’t done…. Like we’d get off our Chief Engineer, who often questioned my hair colour and parentage…but that’s life.

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How many people say let’s have ‘chinky’ or say let’s go to the ‘chinkies’ tonight for change, is that a racist comment ?


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How many people say let’s have ‘chinky’ or say let’s go to the ‘chinkies’ tonight for change, is that a racist comment ?



Why don't you ask the staff next time you're in one?


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I aways say Chinese. I stopped using that word years ago and the P word when I was about 12 years old.


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How many people say let’s have ‘chinky’ or say let’s go to the ‘chinkies’ tonight for change, is that a racist comment ?



Why don't you ask the staff next time you're in one?


I don’t eat Chinese food never have done, Chinese food doesn’t appeal to me, I picked the terminology up from people I worked/socialised with.


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I always say Chinese, Indian, Italian, Chippie, Pizza place or the actual name of the Restaurant/ Pub if I'm eating out.
I say Pakistan when referring to the cricket team, which is probably the only time I use the reference. I always refer to corner shops as the corner shop or the name of the owner. I call the watering hole I use most Jim's as that is the name of the owner who I've known for years and he is a friend. We say (either me or our lass) fancy a walk round to see Jim.
I really don't see what all the fuss is about. Nicknames are descriptive and if somebody says that they object to a particular one then don't use it, no matter what or who it is.
Turks and Greeks call each other worse than shit, as do the various factions of the Indian continent, then there is the Irish, who take it to another dimension, as do some Scots. Not to mention Jews and Arabs. And it just doesn't stop there.
Will it ever stop, I doubt it.
Neither will people calling others...Ginger, Fat, Short Arsed, Lanky. Skinny, Baldy etc, followed by an expletive.
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derwent wrote:
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Farage was interviewed by Trevor Phillips on Sky this morning. The presenter had to apologise about the word Paki being used. Guess what, Farage didn't say it but Trevor did. Imagine the uproar if Farage had said it.

so what if he did it, its just a shortened word and no proof at all the person saying it is a racist. totally sick of todays world where even a pakistani shop keeper does not mind his shop being called a paki shop if people spend money there including the priveleged whites. does calling someone from manchester a manc or a londoner a cockney really make any difference in their lives.


Or a Scot a Jock, A Welshman Taffy, An Irishman Paddy, A Frenchman a Frog,A Gernan a Kraut,An American a Yank, A Yorkshireman a Yorkie etc etc etc etc.
Everybody who is remotely interested in football will notice the trend is not to call each other by their official name but a version of it, like Feths, Fergie, Mols, etc. It's what happens and it never ever annoys or insults the recipient, so why should it bother anybody else. Is anybody bothered whether the Aussies call us Poms or not. I'm very proud to be referred to as a Monkey hanger, even though I wasn't there or had owt to do with the event.
When are we going to be told not to refer to our children as kids, cos it inevitably will happen.


Come off it. We're all grown men and some of us have been around for a long time. I don't recall anybody, ever, talking to me about 'that nice Paki down the road,' but I've heard it used as an insult hundreds as times, usually with bloody or f****** in front of it.


To come off something you first have to be on it. In my lifetime I have probably called the Welsh(as a nation) more than any other but not because they are Welsh but because when they beat England at Rugby you meet one of their smirking faces at every corner but when we beat them you don't see one for a month. I still have a pint with them and count them among my friends. I don't think I insult them in any way though.
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Sport is a false equivalence - as you say yourself, 'we' (fine upstanding Englishmen that we are) hardly ever talk about the bloody Welsh or the F****** Aussies outside the context of sport. Many sports, in the case of the Aussies :wink:


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Any truth in it that the BBC have plans of reviving Till Death Us Do Part with Alf Garnett? sctatchinghead


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Jamie1952 wrote:
How many people say let’s have ‘chinky’ or say let’s go to the ‘chinkies’ tonight for change, is that a racist comment ?



Are we supposed to slap ourselves on the back of our hands when it slips out nowadays? ffs :roll:


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At the end of the day name calling shouldn't be a crime. If all it is is causing offence then just deal with it, different if it's affecting someone living their life but name calling?
Whatever happened to sticks and stones?
Is calling someone fatty as offensive as calling them a Paki, surely if it is they should be treat the same and therefore both be crimes?


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If somebody says it with malice fair enough, it’s out of order, but the casual use of a word doesn’t have an automatic negative conatation.

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At the end of the day name calling shouldn't be a crime. If all it is is causing offence then just deal with it, different if it's affecting someone living their life but name calling?
Whatever happened to sticks and stones?
Is calling someone fatty as offensive as calling them a Paki, surely if it is they should be treat the same and therefore both be crimes?

always found the more popular you are at school or at work the bigger chance you have of getting a nickname which mostly is based on your appearance or personality and not exactly great. you just take it on the chin. i,ll never accept though being called a geordie in the same way an indian would not accept being called a pakistani or a paki because they are not. however it can be cruel calling someone by their physical appearance like fatty as some have a big phobia about it which isn,t new.


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