What evidence do you have that they will improve us?He is saying they are bang average looking at their careers, which lets be honest is bang average. Now if we signed will greig last year we would probobly all of said wow what a fantadtic signing, someone thats been successful played at a higher level, obviously we cant afford him but i cant see why fans take offence that these players we have signed are bang average, they are. When greatham bull and dog sign callum cooke and they say he is bang average, they also probobly have a case.

These new lads werent in the team of the year last season, didnt win nothing one of them spent all season in the relegation zone. Its not to say they cant be good players for us.

Love to see the “lets praise Raj posts”

Raj got plenty of praise off everyone when he got us a team to be promoted with a top manager, allowed him to bring quality of Armstrong in.

I've never said any of the new players WILL improve us though have I. I've said hopefully they will but we'll not know until they play for us so I've got nothing to give evidence about. Whereas Mr Imp has written them all off as bang average (based on looking at tea leaves or summat) - show us the tea leaves!
As for their records 2 played over 40 games for teams who finished above us I think, 2 were offered new contracts and the other was released partly as a result of cost cutting according to Oldham Press. Surely they're the type of players we need and can reasonable expect to attract to a NL club?
A reasonable person would give them the benefit of the doubt until they've seen them play wouldn't they? And what sort of impression does it give if the "best supporters in NL football" are saying they're not good enough on here should any of the players actually read the forum?
Doesn't mean criticism shouldn't be allowed but criticism without justification is just whingeing and can be habit forming.

Absolutely bang on - some people on here just moan about nowt

lets be honest some people are going on like we are 10 games into the season and have not won a match. Ill reserve all the criticisms for then. New backroom staff coupled with an actual scout and a manager who knows this level and whats needed is more than a step in the right direction for me ! add all the above to that too and we are in a much better position than last season for me and look how that started. Mancini a total unknown - no Featherstone - a Striker (Umerah) who we all had high hopes of returning previous form which didnt happen and we still started like a house on fire ! Could quite easily do that again albeit we have a better defence CB pairing - a Striker in form - plus Dodds again and new Midfielders whom can actually play and put tackles in ! We should not be giving all the doom and gloom just yet - there is still players to come in and no doubt a better GK too !

Our shift in backroom staff will either make or break the team but given alot of the starting 11 including subs will be new to team and manager everyone should be busting a gut to impress. It wont take long for the crowds to return and make the Vic a fortress again !
Plus once the new lads get that on their side we will be laughing. Still alot of work to do and time will tell but i dont think we should be worrying just yet nor be thinking a relegation battle will be on our hands.

Sharman and Hunter if anyone has actually seen these lads play last season where head and shoulders above what we had out on the pitch - Myself and others even quoted at the time that we had missed a trick with not signing Sharman before when he ripped us a new one at Fylde that night ! We are not going to see a stella signing through the door but what we will see is good lads for this level whom work hard are fit and will turn out for the majority of the season ! Hell a dont think anyone bar FGR whom have the cash have actually made any really good league standard signings just yet ! I can see us unearthing some none league gems along the way this season and probably getting in a really good loan player too.

Just to temper that slightly we got a goalie from Braintree that was head and shoulders above anything on the pitch when we played them. Unfortunately he had about 2 good games afyer he signed for us and 1 wss his last game.

Loyal will be putting up the wanted posters for you now

While not a Killip fan, who was, when released by us he had no problem finding another club two divisions higher than us.

Remarkable to think he has played 13 times for them as well.

the fact the lad had it in his tank to play the way he did that last game just sums up some footballers man. So So frustrating. But like the old saying goes if he could do that every week he wouldnt be turning out for Pools etc... he has done well to get another contract there tbh.

dont forget though to add what i said earlier - how many rough diamonds have we polished over the years ? quite a few. we are due one or 2 more that for sure. Some times lads just dont click under the manager or system etc... injuries and niggles. I can see us having a brand new setup and way of playing - bringing this whole new setup to pools with a new captain the lot will be like a breath of fresh air and something thats been needed for a very long time. Aggressive fit and good players - the likes we have seen our little pools team get turned over by so many times at this level - might just be our time now !

Lets hope they are we have heard this before and have turned into soft arses within 25 minutes. What we do need is luck on the injury front. We dont want to be losing players before the season

Ya dropped ya guard there Billy.
But are 100% correct.
Raj didn't sell up or put us in Administration and appreciates the huge amount of cash the fans n sponsors put in to keep the club ticking over.

Don't reckon SM will sway any future decisions.
Probably laffs his bollocks off at this cabaret comedy show.

So do you think the club is self sustainable without Raj putting any money in? If it was you'd think there'd be any amount of buyers lining up to take on such an attractive opportunity.

He was head and shoulders above all when we played stockport, Remember who signed, Good ole Higgy.

Didn't say that.
Said more or less he appreciate the fans n sponsors cash input.
Stop being argumentive n look at the full picture.
You do know what United means.

Stop it my sides are hurting

look lads things are getting very interesting now, So lets crack on.

And now ill save yous time by telling my self to "fuck off"

You know I get that people don't want to dwell on the negatives nor have the likes of me always talking about them. I tried to alter that, respecting what Derwent asked me to do. It does irk me when this guy is always there with his agenda though. I packed it in. His turn.

I thought the guest three signings looked....alrightish. Why anyone needs me to actually type the words 'on paper' or 'on the face of it' instead of actually using their common sense I do not know. Anyway, the latest one I think is better.

DISCLAIMER: The authors opinion is merely theoretical and should not be treated as full and final judgement of said football players.

I don’t need a turn impy, I need you to stop telling lies about people who happen to disagree with you.When you do that you will find peace. This obsession you have of repeatedly crying about your opinion being stifled is boring, monotonous and a downright lie.

Don't think I've even used the word 'stifled'. What lies? Thats quite an accusation. The 'turn' was in reference to PTID.

Cheers for the Respect.

My turn for what? I've not been asked to stop lying, probably because I don't lie (on here) so can't be my turn for that. Constant negativity that's not me either.
My only agenda is to support my club. Same as everyone on here isn't it?

Perhaps just stop posting from up the chairman's backside and we'll be fine. Folks have had enough of politics these days.

Oh dear back to the old he's up the Chairman's arse bullshit for the umpteenth time. There's no post from me on this thread which shows any affiliation or even liking of Raj.
And there you go again telling the world what they're sick of!

Just popped in……Oh dear….still the same doom and gloom and the world gonna end soon scenario, all signings are shit, Challinor was God, Raj is the Angel of Death , we’re doomed, why do we bother, spend more money, managers a waste of space, this club is useless, …….C’mon kids, get your leads on, we’ll walk into the sea together…

Oh ey up, here comes the wise old sage, wearing a kind paternal smile as he watches the children squabble. It would be funny if some of it wasn't true recently

I thought the general consensus was most people were happy with campbell signing. Got some pace what we have been crying out for. Im not sure he is this massive marquee signing or whatever that some are trying to make him out to be but he certainly did well consistently in the conference. Think he will go well with manni.

Children not so much squabbling, as some children interested in the new toys and some throwing them at the teacher….demanding better toys.
I don’t have a clue what was ‘true recently’……so over my head.

its just pools fans being pools fans where many will never be happy and doubt every signing we,d ever make. if messi wanted to finish his career at the vic there would be a conspiracy theory behind his move.

Gunna decline that offer Snowy.
Don't want to miss out on the Promotion Party
UTP.

This marquee signing always makes me chuckle…that signing who promises so much….who gets some folk sexually aroused at the prospect of Dave Bloke signing for us, the MIGHTY Dave Bloke at Pool who will lead us to the promised land…..then produces the sum total of sod all.
And one of those ever so average signings turns out to be a lot better than the time expired, burnt out cut n shut of footballer who fails his MOT.

Only as far as our ankles Kev, We aren’t that daft.

Four solid signings. Not top drawer, not bargain basement. Will make the team harder to beat, and provide a platform for, hopefully, Dodds, Mancini and Mani D to sprinkle a bit of quality. Decent keeper, and another play maker and a side that will be pushing play offs. Expecting a Will Grigg, or a Paul Mullin signing is ridiculous. Pools don't have that money. However, having a few more players willing to put a shift in will make more of a difference than some care to admit.

A good summary.

"I don’t need a turn impy, I need you to stop telling lies about people who happen to disagree with you.When you do that you will find peace. This obsession you have of repeatedly crying about your opinion being stifled is boring, monotonous and a downright lie."

Just to make it clear to people I was on about the overreaction to negative comments by some posters and NOT any kind of overzealous censorship undertaken by Derwent. Indeed to his absolute credit, he does a great job and lets conversation flow. I've told him that much directly and in exchange I received some honestly good advice.

This is your quote regarding Sheron

from what i heard about sheron on thursday from a couple of regular oldham fans regarding sheron sounded fine to me. they said he,ll never be the man of the match but will never be the one who has a nightmare game either. always prefer the steady over the spectacular and hope mancini can be the one to provide the latter.

If he's a regular 7 out of 10 that's a vast improvement over Fev, Cooke, etc Al from last season.

or even a 6 out of 10. there is nothing more annoying for a manager as well as fans for a player being man of the match one week and being subbed the next because they are utter crap. gets to the point of dropping them because they never know which player is going to turn up.

Certain players over the last couple of seasons were often 5 or worse but were never subbed which made things worse.

because there were no options which you get from having small squads and shit loan players.

If you think you've seen the last of Featherstone on the pitch you're going to be disappointed (again). Sarll is a big fan and talked about his value to the club as a player as well as a new coach in his interview last week on the OS.

yes the talk about featherstones worth will go on for at least part of this season again. has there ever been a player in football never mind at pools where the fans are split on his ability. fans are either for or against with very few sat on the fence. i was always in the for camp but feel this is one season too far for him but hope i,m proved to be wrong. sarlls interview was certainly not one his detractors would hav liked to have heard.

I'd say there's something wrong if these new players can't displace Fev as a regular starter. Wasn't getting at Fev btw we had a lot of belowaverage performances in midfield last season from Fev, Cooke, Crawford (who was among the more consistent imo), Wallace, Finney, and all the loanees.

Sarly give Fevs n Fergy glowing reports for our last promotion campaign.
Deffo a gamble keeping both after the last 2 seasons IMO.
Die or live by the sword I suppose which results of promotion or disaster will answer!
The majority of Poolies stating its a no excuse season.
What will be will be.
UTP.