Nigel Farage

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7062

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

The U.K. along with others encouraged the Arab Spring, we are all now facing the consequences for the influx of refugees, you reap what you sow.

Your boy Tony kicked it all off though…or did you forget.

I wasn’t and have never been a supporter of Tony Blair, the Arab Spring was December 2010, the Tories come to power in April 2010, Labour weren’t in power.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7062

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

For someone who doesn't even live in the country, you have a lot to say.

I am a U.K. resident pay my taxes and don’t live abroad permanently, you have no idea about my background until you do reserve your opinions and assumptions to yourself about me.[/quote]

On a number of occasions in your posts you refer to your life in the far East but rarely if ever mention your life in the UK so its a fair enough assumption and I make no apologies.[/quote]

I lived and worked the majority of my life in the U.K. so I am well aware of the ‘goings on’

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7062

Snowy wrote:

I do suspect Jamie wants to turn the UK into Thailand in the North Sea…where everything is groovy and loverly… and you can afford someone to cut your grass for a quid.

Grass, you are obviously not familiar with the climate no one has grass, some have artificial turf so save the quid albeit Thais won’t do menial jobs like gardening, working on building sites etc they employ foreigners from the surrounding countries, the modern Thais are like the Brits they don’t like getting their hands dirty.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7062

Sussex UK wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Sussex UK wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

What I would do is allow asylum seekers to take up employment
.

More unvetted cheap labour eh…?

Getting rid of the DBS check is what i think mr jamie is suggesting.... or who gives a feck about their criminal record.

Mock Farage all you want mr jamie but he's going to be ragging Starmer to bits in the next few years.The Great British public and the EU will follow..Imagine all of them brilliant economists from the Labour party having to deal with the countries population explosion eh mr j ??

Reform might be inline to get a few million votes but because of the voting system they won’t have a voice in Parliament. He was an MEP but who in the EU took any notice of him, after the next election he will ride off into the sunset with all his dosh, a distant memory.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7062

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Bluestreak wrote:

He is only in this game to promote himself and his bank account.

That may or may not be true but the fact is, he is a rallying point for the people of this country that the mainstream politicians ignore. The liberal left know this and will pull every trick in the book to stop him. Obviously Reform are not going to win the election but Farage and co give the disenfranchised a voice. I cant speak for every potential Reform voter but I suspect they dont want anything particularly outlandish but basically this: Immigration needs to be controlled so we know who is coming into the country and what they have to contribute. People who have no right to be here should be swiftly deported or preferably prevented from setting foot here in the first place. Tories and Labour not prepared to do this so Reform gets my vote. I dont think it is a complicated issue. Farage in the House of Commons would kick some serious arse. Oh and by the way, there must easier ways of promoting one's bank account that mainstream politics. Does he need to promote himself when he is already a household name?

‘Rallying point for the people’

Leggie43 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 am **Posts:** 7286

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Snowy wrote:

I do suspect Jamie wants to turn the UK into Thailand in the North Sea…where everything is groovy and loverly… and you can afford someone to cut your grass for a quid.

Get yourself over their for a holiday with Jamie.
Don't worry about Ruby n Ratboy.
Me n Leggie will feed n exercise them.
:animals-dogrun:

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Snowy wrote:

I do suspect Jamie wants to turn the UK into Thailand in the North Sea…where everything is groovy and loverly… and you can afford someone to cut your grass for a quid.

Get yourself over their for a holiday with Jamie.
Don't worry about Ruby n Ratboy.
Me n Leggie will feed n exercise them.
:animals-dogrun:

You’re a star Kev…..don’t turn your back on them though…. :laugh:

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18916

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

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In reply to Jamie: No one wants to stop legal migration it just needs to be controlled and those arriving should have something to contribute to this country. If asylum seekers can be given jobs it makes the pull factor to the UK even stronger so even more would be fighting to make the "dangerous" journey across the channel. If you ran a business and someone rocked up with no identity credentials, no skills and no ability to speak English, would you employ him?

most countries in the world have had immegration even many leaving europe in the 19th and 20th centuries. however unlike it is here at the moment this has always been controlled. it was never an issue in this country as it is now apart from the real far right. as for farage himself no matter whether you agree or not with his politics he is the only politician we have that people will stop and listen to. stammer, sunak and davey, imagine sat next to that trio of bores having a meal. he is not a one trick pony either like reform is and they are not just all about stopping the boats like the media want you to hear, but have other policies that some might be too lazy to look up.

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:15 am

He only wants to talk about one topic and he aint got a solution to it except to say he will "stop it".
As for everything else it's just headline grabbing ill thought out drivel.
As you may have gathered i am not impressed.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18916

Bluestreak wrote:

He only wants to talk about one topic and he aint got a solution to it except to say he will "stop it".
As for everything else it's just headline grabbing ill thought out drivel.
As you may have gathered i am not impressed.

whilst you are correct he does speak about it more than other issues but he does mention getting out of the ECHR as well as other issues. the main stream media and other partys hate the bloke but they are the ones giving him the headlines. its where people in general put stopping the boats as their main priority or how far up they put it that matters. you do not have to like or be inmpressed by him in the same way as i have been told many were like that in 1940 when churchill came to the fore.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3710

Jamie1952 wrote:

Sussex UK wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Sussex UK wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

What I would do is allow asylum seekers to take up employment
.

More unvetted cheap labour eh…?

Getting rid of the DBS check is what i think mr jamie is suggesting.... or who gives a feck about their criminal record.

Mock Farage all you want mr jamie but he's going to be ragging Starmer to bits in the next few years.The Great British public and the EU will follow..Imagine all of them brilliant economists from the Labour party having to deal with the countries population explosion eh mr j ??

Reform might be inline to get a few million votes but because of the voting system they won’t have a voice in Parliament. He was an MEP but who in the EU took any notice of him, after the next election he will ride off into the sunset with all his dosh, a distant memory.

I doubt he will ride off and be a distant memory. He has remained in the public arena more or less consistently over the past couple of decades.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3710

Jamie1952 wrote:

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Bluestreak wrote:

He is only in this game to promote himself and his bank account.

That may or may not be true but the fact is, he is a rallying point for the people of this country that the mainstream politicians ignore. The liberal left know this and will pull every trick in the book to stop him. Obviously Reform are not going to win the election but Farage and co give the disenfranchised a voice. I cant speak for every potential Reform voter but I suspect they dont want anything particularly outlandish but basically this: Immigration needs to be controlled so we know who is coming into the country and what they have to contribute. People who have no right to be here should be swiftly deported or preferably prevented from setting foot here in the first place. Tories and Labour not prepared to do this so Reform gets my vote. I dont think it is a complicated issue. Farage in the House of Commons would kick some serious arse. Oh and by the way, there must easier ways of promoting one's bank account that mainstream politics. Does he need to promote himself when he is already a household name?

‘Rallying point for the people’

If you are going to quote me, quote me accurately because otherwise you are misrepresenting what I am saying. In other words lying.
I said Farage ..."is a rallying point for the people of this country that the mainstream politicians ignore". In other words, lots of us have been increasingly alarmed by the ever growing numbers of immigrants (750,000 legal immigrants last year alone) but the mainstream politicians have done almost nothing about it despite what the man in the street thinks. This is why Farage gets the support he does.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18916

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

[. In other words, lots of us have been increasingly alarmed by the ever growing numbers of immigrants (750,000 legal immigrants last year alone) but the mainstream politicians have done almost nothing about it despite what the man in the street thinks. This is why Farage gets the support he does.

along with most of the MSM i feel thy have encouraged it along with the usual activists from the new left. when europens colonised or wnt across the world seeking wealth they are now made out to be emitomy of evil whereas these bring nothing but positive diversity to us all and enrich us with their presence. the past and even more so the present has refuted this claim with bells on.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

accrington fan wrote:

Bluestreak wrote:

He only wants to talk about one topic and he aint got a solution to it except to say he will "stop it".
As for everything else it's just headline grabbing ill thought out drivel.
As you may have gathered i am not impressed.

whilst you are correct he does speak about it more than other issues but he does mention getting out of the ECHR as well as other issues. the main stream media and other partys hate the bloke but they are the ones giving him the headlines. its where people in general put stopping the boats as their main priority or how far up they put it that matters. you do not have to like or be inmpressed by him in the same way as i have been told many were like that in 1940 when churchill came to the fore.

You are correct Mr Accy.
Churchill was not favoured for the role of Prime Minister at the time of Chamberlain’s resignation, his Foreign Secretary Lord Halifax was the choice in the House and he was preferred over Churchill. The Royal Family didn’t want Churchill as Prime Minister either.
Lord Halifax wanted to negotiate with Hitler, Churchill didn’t.

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3455

Jamie1952 wrote:

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Reform might be inline to get a few million votes but because of the voting system they won’t have a voice in Parliament. He was an MEP but who in the EU took any notice of him, after the next election he will ride off into the sunset with all his dosh, a distant memory.[/quote]

No wonder they didn't like him.I remember seeing his face as Anne Widdecombe compared the UK leaving the EU to slaves rising up against their owners.. It was a joy to watch jamie.. :clap:

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

Jamie1952 wrote:

Reform might be inline to get a few million votes but because of the voting system they won’t have a voice in Parliament. He was an MEP but who in the EU took any notice of him, after the next election he will ride off into the sunset with all his dosh, a distant memory.

They certainly took notice when Brexit happened, they all had faces like smacked arses …. as the never ending well of money dried up for them…tears all round :laugh:

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:12 pm

Where is this country going to get the labour to do the jobs the indigenous population dont want to do which keeps the country going?
IMO politicians use immigration as a political issue but on the quiet know it needs to happen (and allow it to happen) to keep the country running.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

Bluestreak wrote:

Where is this country going to get the labour to do the jobs the indigenous population dont want to do which keeps the country going?
IMO politicians use immigration as a political issue but on the quiet know it needs to happen (and allow it to happen) to keep the country running.

The indigenous population need to get off their collective backsides, the percentage on benefits is beyond a joke…yes there’s genuine cases, but a good percentage need a lesson in reality.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3710

Bluestreak wrote:

Where is this country going to get the labour to do the jobs the indigenous population dont want to do which keeps the country going?
IMO politicians use immigration as a political issue but on the quiet know it needs to happen (and allow it to happen) to keep the country running.

Again, no one is saying all immigration should be stopped. We need skilled workers to come to the UK and contribute to the economy. The incomers need to be carefully checked before being allowed in. What we dont need and actually what we are getting at the moment is uncontrolled numbers of individuals (legally allowed) and their dependants who take out of the economy far more than they put in. For example, foreign students. On top of that we have the ever growing numbers of illegals arriving by by boat and never leaving regardless of asylum outcomes. Tired of the liberal left and the liberal media minimizing this. These problems are bringing the country to its knees and we need someone with the courage make a difference to this. Starmer and Sunak make the problem worse.

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Sun Jun 16, 2024 4:17 pm

Snowy wrote:

Bluestreak wrote:

Where is this country going to get the labour to do the jobs the indigenous population dont want to do which keeps the country going?
IMO politicians use immigration as a political issue but on the quiet know it needs to happen (and allow it to happen) to keep the country running.

The indigenous population need to get off their collective backsides, the percentage on benefits is beyond a joke…yes there’s genuine cases, but a good percentage need a lesson in reality.

I am retired and i am not getting off my backside

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Sun Jun 16, 2024 4:20 pm

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Bluestreak wrote:

Where is this country going to get the labour to do the jobs the indigenous population dont want to do which keeps the country going?
IMO politicians use immigration as a political issue but on the quiet know it needs to happen (and allow it to happen) to keep the country running.

Again, no one is saying all immigration should be stopped. We need skilled workers to come to the UK and contribute to the economy. The incomers need to be carefully checked before being allowed in. What we dont need and actually what we are getting at the moment is uncontrolled numbers of individuals (legally allowed) and their dependants who take out of the economy far more than they put in. For example, foreign students. On top of that we have the ever growing numbers of illegals arriving by by boat and never leaving regardless of asylum outcomes. Tired of the liberal left and the liberal media minimizing this. These problems are bringing the country to its knees and we need someone with the courage make a difference to this. Starmer and Sunak make the problem worse.

Yes i understand your points but if they wanted to stop say "the boats" they would and they dont.
We cant just blame the French or whoever its our government (all parties)

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3455

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

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Again, no one is saying all immigration should be stopped. We need skilled workers to come to the UK and contribute to the economy. The incomers need to be carefully checked before being allowed in. What we dont need and actually what we are getting at the moment is uncontrolled numbers of individuals (legally allowed) and their dependants who take out of the economy far more than they put in. For example, foreign students. On top of that we have the ever growing numbers of illegals arriving by by boat and never leaving regardless of asylum outcomes. Tired of the liberal left and the liberal media minimizing this. These problems are bringing the country to its knees and we need someone with the courage make a difference to this. Starmer and Sunak make the problem worse.[/quote]

Foreign student courses..It's become the perfect opportunity to slip the net for some.

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3455

Jamie1952 wrote:

[quote=

. I don’t hide the fact I don’t like the bloke he is false drinking beer making out he is one of the working class,[/quote]

Any truth in it what the Labour candidate for Clacton had to say about what drink he likes ,jamie??

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3710

Bluestreak wrote:

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Bluestreak wrote:

Where is this country going to get the labour to do the jobs the indigenous population dont want to do which keeps the country going?
IMO politicians use immigration as a political issue but on the quiet know it needs to happen (and allow it to happen) to keep the country running.

Again, no one is saying all immigration should be stopped. We need skilled workers to come to the UK and contribute to the economy. The incomers need to be carefully checked before being allowed in. What we dont need and actually what we are getting at the moment is uncontrolled numbers of individuals (legally allowed) and their dependants who take out of the economy far more than they put in. For example, foreign students. On top of that we have the ever growing numbers of illegals arriving by by boat and never leaving regardless of asylum outcomes. Tired of the liberal left and the liberal media minimizing this. These problems are bringing the country to its knees and we need someone with the courage make a difference to this. Starmer and Sunak make the problem worse.

Yes i understand your points but if they wanted to stop say "the boats" they would and they dont.
We cant just blame the French or whoever its our government (all parties)

No argument from me about the government being massively to blame for this. They needed to leave the ECHR to make stopping the boats easier but didnt have the courage so country suffers.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18916

Sussex UK wrote:

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Foreign student courses..It's become the perfect opportunity to slip the net for some.

do not forget the dependants they bring with them. its a good little earner though for these universities and they will not want the situation to change. be better if they shut a good number of these places down for good. convert em into housing and use the student accomodation as well for the new immegrants. just think how enriched boro could then be.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7062

Sussex UK wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

[quote=

. I don’t hide the fact I don’t like the bloke he is false drinking beer making out he is one of the working class,

Any truth in it what the Labour candidate for Clacton had to say about what drink he likes ,jamie??

[/quote]

Why would I be interested in the Labour candidate, your making the wrong assumption about me.

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6673

Don,t follow politics much, I know Nige wants to stop immigration, Am i wrong in thinking he also wants to stop Migration.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3710

Grayhoundend wrote:

Don,t follow politics much, I know Nige wants to stop immigration, Am i wrong in thinking he also wants to stop Migration.

No, Nige does not want to stop immigration, he just wants it to be controlled as most people do.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8915

I'm very confident Nigel will be PM in 29 after Starmer will tax the shit out of us.
Just a shame we have to wait till then for us all to be winners with the 20k tax thresholds.
UTR.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7062

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

I'm very confident Nigel will be PM in 29 after Starmer will tax the shit out of us.
Just a shame we have to wait till then for us all to be winners with the 20k tax thresholds.
UTR.

And the NHS will be run by a private company part of Reform U.K. manifesto and you will have to pay for an insurance policy, you obviously haven’t read Reform UK manifesto.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

Jamie1952 wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

I'm very confident Nigel will be PM in 29 after Starmer will tax the shit out of us.
Just a shame we have to wait till then for us all to be winners with the 20k tax thresholds.
UTR.

And the NHS will be run by a private company part of Reform U.K. manifesto and you will have to pay for an insurance policy, you obviously haven’t read Reform UK manifesto.

Come on then , where’s your link….you’re letting yourself down.
Incidentally, we pay insurance now …National Insurance.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8915

Excellent Presentation from Reform UK on the news channels.
Even Oaps with private pensions should be void from tax unless there buckled so no worries with pensions.

Outstanding incentives to come of benefits.
Very few losers from our policy's :clap:

UTR.

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3455

Jamie1952 wrote:

Sussex UK wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

[quote=

. I don’t hide the fact I don’t like the bloke he is false drinking beer making out he is one of the working class,

Any truth in it what the Labour candidate for Clacton had to say about what drink he likes ,jamie??

Why would I be interested in the Labour candidate, your making the wrong assumption about me.[/quote]

I have no idea what side of the fence you sit on it's difficult to work out but if you're going to pick out Farage for enjoying a couple of pints you could at least point out what the Labour party candidate enjoys for a tipple eh..His deleted tweet is out there on the net, have a stiff drink before you read it.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3710

Jamie1952 wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

I'm very confident Nigel will be PM in 29 after Starmer will tax the shit out of us.
Just a shame we have to wait till then for us all to be winners with the 20k tax thresholds.
UTR.

And the NHS will be run by a private company part of Reform U.K. manifesto and you will have to pay for an insurance policy, you obviously haven’t read Reform UK manifesto.

Dont know if you use the NHS, but those of us who do will testify to the fact it is at breaking point. Something needs to be done about it. The plain fact is, however much cash is pumped into it, it always needs more. Farage is suggesting a potential course of action which is a bit of a change from the the usual narrative from Labour or Con.

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3455

Snowy wrote:

Bluestreak wrote:

Where is this country going to get the labour to do the jobs the indigenous population dont want to do which keeps the country going?
IMO politicians use immigration as a political issue but on the quiet know it needs to happen (and allow it to happen) to keep the country running.

The indigenous population need to get off their collective backsides, the percentage on benefits is beyond a joke…yes there’s genuine cases, but a good percentage need a lesson in reality.

One fella i know a maintenance man told me it's not worth him working over 20 hours a week because he can still claim a lot freebies which he couldn't if he worked 40 hrs..A lot do it down here,cash for overtime and both sides are happy.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

I'm very confident Nigel will be PM in 29 after Starmer will tax the shit out of us.
Just a shame we have to wait till then for us all to be winners with the 20k tax thresholds.
UTR.

And the NHS will be run by a private company part of Reform U.K. manifesto and you will have to pay for an insurance policy, you obviously haven’t read Reform UK manifesto.

Come on then , where’s your link….you’re letting yourself down.
Incidentally, we pay insurance now …National Insurance.

Come on Jamie, give us a link, don’t be shy.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7062

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

I'm very confident Nigel will be PM in 29 after Starmer will tax the shit out of us.
Just a shame we have to wait till then for us all to be winners with the 20k tax thresholds.
UTR.

And the NHS will be run by a private company part of Reform U.K. manifesto and you will have to pay for an insurance policy, you obviously haven’t read Reform UK manifesto.

Come on then , where’s your link….you’re letting yourself down.
Incidentally, we pay insurance now …National Insurance.

Come on Jamie, give us a link, don’t be shy.

Too many links too post, you have Google Snowy find out for yourself, I am not doing all the leg work for you.
NI contributions (NICs) don’t just fund the NHS they help to fund certain social security benefits and the UK state pension.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7062

Sussex UK wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Bluestreak wrote:

Where is this country going to get the labour to do the jobs the indigenous population dont want to do which keeps the country going?
IMO politicians use immigration as a political issue but on the quiet know it needs to happen (and allow it to happen) to keep the country running.

The indigenous population need to get off their collective backsides, the percentage on benefits is beyond a joke…yes there’s genuine cases, but a good percentage need a lesson in reality.

One fella i know a maintenance man told me it's not worth him working over 20 hours a week because he can still claim a lot freebies which he couldn't if he worked 40 hrs..A lot do it down here,cash for overtime and both sides are happy.

There were 6.4 million people on UC in January in England, Scotland and Wales, according to official government statistics. Nearly 40% of claimants have jobs.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7062

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Bluestreak wrote:

He is only in this game to promote himself and his bank account.

That may or may not be true but the fact is, he is a rallying point for the people of this country that the mainstream politicians ignore. The liberal left know this and will pull every trick in the book to stop him. Obviously Reform are not going to win the election but Farage and co give the disenfranchised a voice. I cant speak for every potential Reform voter but I suspect they dont want anything particularly outlandish but basically this: Immigration needs to be controlled so we know who is coming into the country and what they have to contribute. People who have no right to be here should be swiftly deported or preferably prevented from setting foot here in the first place. Tories and Labour not prepared to do this so Reform gets my vote. I dont think it is a complicated issue. Farage in the House of Commons would kick some serious arse. Oh and by the way, there must easier ways of promoting one's bank account that mainstream politics. Does he need to promote himself when he is already a household name?

‘Rallying point for the people’

If you are going to quote me, quote me accurately because otherwise you are misrepresenting what I am saying. In other words lying.
I said Farage ..."is a rallying point for the people of this country that the mainstream politicians ignore". In other words, lots of us have been increasingly alarmed by the ever growing numbers of immigrants (750,000 legal immigrants last year alone) but the mainstream politicians have done almost nothing about it despite what the man in the street thinks. This is why Farage gets the support he does.

How is Farage going to stop it, Reform U.K. will never be in government, maybe a few MPs who the other 2 will take no notice off. No matter what is in their manifesto it will make no difference. Financially it’s worse than Truss, the figures just don’t add up according to the experts.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7062

Sussex UK wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Sussex UK wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

[quote=

. I don’t hide the fact I don’t like the bloke he is false drinking beer making out he is one of the working class,

Any truth in it what the Labour candidate for Clacton had to say about what drink he likes ,jamie??

Why would I be interested in the Labour candidate, your making the wrong assumption about me.

I have no idea what side of the fence you sit on it's difficult to work out but if you're going to pick out Farage for enjoying a couple of pints you could at least point out what the Labour party candidate enjoys for a tipple eh..His deleted tweet is out there on the net, have a stiff drink before you read it.[/quote]

Currently sitting on the fence being bored by all the politicians empty promises.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

Jamie1952 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

I'm very confident Nigel will be PM in 29 after Starmer will tax the shit out of us.
Just a shame we have to wait till then for us all to be winners with the 20k tax thresholds.
UTR.

And the NHS will be run by a private company part of Reform U.K. manifesto and you will have to pay for an insurance policy, you obviously haven’t read Reform UK manifesto.

Come on then , where’s your link….you’re letting yourself down.
Incidentally, we pay insurance now …National Insurance.

Come on Jamie, give us a link, don’t be shy.

Too many links too post, you have Google Snowy find out for yourself, I am not doing all the leg work for you.
NI contributions (NICs) don’t just fund the NHS they help to fund certain social security benefits and the UK state pension.

If there’s ‘too many links to post’. …that surely makes it easier for you to provide one?
It never stops you normally, …. so your pathetic excuse of me ‘doing your leg work for you’ is just cobblers.

Never go in the witness box, you’d end up getting life for a parking fine, with your fairyland ludicrous testimony.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36386

Jamie1952 wrote:

Why would I be interested in the Labour candidate, your making the wrong assumption about me.

You cannot be serious.

We are very much making the right assumption about you.

Over the years you have you’ve beavered away relentlessly rubbishing the Tory’s and Reform, but that’s because they’re the only real threat to Labour.
The evidence is here on the pages of this message board yet you try to pretend you’re just middle of the road with no real interest in politics :laugh:

People with no dog in the fight don’t turn up at dog fights and write about them ad nauseam….why this charade, support what you believe in and you might have some credibility.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18916

Jamie1952 wrote:

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

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That may or may not be true but the fact is, he is a rallying point for the people of this country that the mainstream politicians ignore. The liberal left know this and will pull every trick in the book to stop him. Obviously Reform are not going to win the election but Farage and co give the disenfranchised a voice. I cant speak for every potential Reform voter but I suspect they dont want anything particularly outlandish but basically this: Immigration needs to be controlled so we know who is coming into the country and what they have to contribute. People who have no right to be here should be swiftly deported or preferably prevented from setting foot here in the first place. Tories and Labour not prepared to do this so Reform gets my vote.

How is Farage going to stop it, Reform U.K. will never be in government, maybe a few MPs who the other 2 will take no notice off. No matter what is in their manifesto it will make no difference. Financially it’s worse than Truss, the figures just don’t add up according to the experts.

whilst the reform manifesto looks good to me and is vote winner for many thats where it will finish. can easily see them getting over 25% of the vote but only 1% of the seats. that will ensure we have the first past the post system for ever as the big to want to keep control. all in all its a bit like the liberals who can also promise us the earth but never going to deliver anything. even worse if people do bother to vote anything but labour or tory the more there will be who haven,t a voice in parliament worth talking about.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7062

accrington fan wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

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That may or may not be true but the fact is, he is a rallying point for the people of this country that the mainstream politicians ignore. The liberal left know this and will pull every trick in the book to stop him. Obviously Reform are not going to win the election but Farage and co give the disenfranchised a voice. I cant speak for every potential Reform voter but I suspect they dont want anything particularly outlandish but basically this: Immigration needs to be controlled so we know who is coming into the country and what they have to contribute. People who have no right to be here should be swiftly deported or preferably prevented from setting foot here in the first place. Tories and Labour not prepared to do this so Reform gets my vote.

How is Farage going to stop it, Reform U.K. will never be in government, maybe a few MPs who the other 2 will take no notice off. No matter what is in their manifesto it will make no difference. Financially it’s worse than Truss, the figures just don’t add up according to the experts.

whilst the reform manifesto looks good to me and is vote winner for many thats where it will finish. can easily see them getting over 25% of the vote but only 1% of the seats. that will ensure we have the first past the post system for ever as the big to want to keep control. all in all its a bit like the liberals who can also promise us the earth but never going to deliver anything. even worse if people do bother to vote anything but labour or tory the more there will be who haven,t a voice in parliament worth talking about.

Exactly the all the parties can put what they want on their manifesto but there is only going to be one winner although maybe not by as big a majority as forecast by the opinion polls.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3710

Jamie1952 wrote:

accrington fan wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

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That may or may not be true but the fact is, he is a rallying point for the people of this country that the mainstream politicians ignore. The liberal left know this and will pull every trick in the book to stop him. Obviously Reform are not going to win the election but Farage and co give the disenfranchised a voice. I cant speak for every potential Reform voter but I suspect they dont want anything particularly outlandish but basically this: Immigration needs to be controlled so we know who is coming into the country and what they have to contribute. People who have no right to be here should be swiftly deported or preferably prevented from setting foot here in the first place. Tories and Labour not prepared to do this so Reform gets my vote.

How is Farage going to stop it, Reform U.K. will never be in government, maybe a few MPs who the other 2 will take no notice off. No matter what is in their manifesto it will make no difference. Financially it’s worse than Truss, the figures just don’t add up according to the experts.

whilst the reform manifesto looks good to me and is vote winner for many thats where it will finish. can easily see them getting over 25% of the vote but only 1% of the seats. that will ensure we have the first past the post system for ever as the big to want to keep control. all in all its a bit like the liberals who can also promise us the earth but never going to deliver anything. even worse if people do bother to vote anything but labour or tory the more there will be who haven,t a voice in parliament worth talking about.

Exactly the all the parties can put what they want on their manifesto but there is only going to be one winner although maybe not by as big a majority as forecast by the opinion polls.

We all know Reform are never going to win a majority but even if they only get a hanful of MPs it will put immigration at the forefront of political discourse. Farage wont let the government open the floodgates even further without causing maximum publicity. Also, reform MPs in Parliamenr will make the government realize that a lot of people are not happy with mass unchecked immigration instead of their concerns being ignored.

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:59 pm

I see the Heritage party is standing for Hartlepool. I thought it was to do with maintaining physical heritage of buildings etc but i am proven wrong by this video.
She is definitely trying to get noticed.

https://heritageparty.org/hartlepool-by ... candidate/

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8915

Anutha bonus from Reform to scrap the TV licence.
The party that keeps on doing the right thing.
Anutha 750 scum washed up on Dover Beach today.
Must be nice to blow England up then emigrate to California.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3710

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Anutha bonus from Reform to scrap the TV licence.
The party that keeps on doing the right thing.
Anutha 750 scum washed up on Dover Beach today.
Must be nice to blow England up then emigrate to California.

Aye but it gives you a warm feeling knowing your tax money is going to look after these "poor souls". The money spent on these bar stewards would pay the salary of quite a few doctors or dentists. It does my blood pressure no good to think about it.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7062

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Anutha bonus from Reform to scrap the TV licence.
The party that keeps on doing the right thing.
Anutha 750 scum washed up on Dover Beach today.
Must be nice to blow England up then emigrate to California.

How do you know they were scum, were you there to meet them at Dover ?
America has bigger problems with immigrants than the U.K. has ever had, you watched the TV recently of hundreds crossing the border from Mexico most days ?

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7062

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Anutha bonus from Reform to scrap the TV licence.
The party that keeps on doing the right thing.
Anutha 750 scum washed up on Dover Beach today.
Must be nice to blow England up then emigrate to California.

Aye but it gives you a warm feeling knowing your tax money is going to look after these "poor souls". The money spent on these bar stewards would pay the salary of quite a few doctors or dentists. It does my blood pressure no good to think about it.

So you would rather have some one like Sky or BT screw you every month with subscription fees ? Who would fund the BBC, like all of Reforms manifesto or contract as they call it never mentions how most things are going to be funded.

Nigel Farage

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