BYE BYE

Didn’t surprise me, just another politician who thinks politics are the be all and end all….there are lots more things of importance in this world and they don’t seem able to understand it.
They lack humility and a grasp of what really is important in people’s lives.

shows the total lack of what we are after, common sense. he might have had zero interest in D Day but in his position he should have made the best of it for diplomacy,s sake.

What politician would miss a photo opportunity with the leaders of the western world?

must be a fan of his as its the first time i have heard the little man being called a politician, or like gay have they changed the meaning of the word.

How can we expect a Billionaire to understand “Real People” issues.
Its like asking US real footy fans to comprehend the Premier Lge.

but surely he has plenty of advisors like we would have to understand billionaires. you should not need to be part of one group to understand it fully.

Not defending Sunak, but multi millionaire Starmer hardly lives in our world either does he? Tax on pensions coming to most of us while Sir Kier has pension pots worth millions all ring fenced against hmrc.
They're both dead men walking, Sunak will be off to the US after he loses and Starmer will be ousted very quickly after he wins.

This tax on pension thing… I’m no financial expert (or any kind of expert!) but don’t we already pay tax on pensions?

OK then he doesn,t give a Fook.

Did Rishi leave bcos Biden touch cloth allegedly.

No tax is paid on a State pension, but tax is paid on your other pensions..I have a UKGov pension and a ‘French ‘ pension and pay tax on both.

Thanks!

And anything left in your "pot" when you die can be left to your dependents who'll pay tax as they draw it down, but labour want to tax the pot when you die. They also want to tax everything above a set amount on your pot when you reach certain ages, which will mean big earners such as Dr's will stop working rather than be taxed to the hilt. Don't forget it was that super socialist Gordon Brown who has hit pension funds harder than any other Chancellor when he started taxing dividend growth within the funds.

Money has to come from somewhere I guess.

Just looked this up. Labour proposal would cost the average pensioner around £90/year. The Tory ‘tax cut’ has little effect other than for wealthier pensioners, especially ones in a two person household. Quelle surprise.

Getting the tax avoiders and evaders to pay their dues would make a huge difference rather than hitting the pension funds and savings of those who have done the right thing and saved for retirement.

But I accept that I have to pay tax as I pass the threshold, but those on State pension alone, are getting a rough deal.

I have got 42 days to get my state pension but i am bitter about it being delayed a year to 66 yo.
The government owe me £11k and i am going to get it back one way or another.

However much someone 'earns', there should be an absolute minimum percentage tax equal to that which someone on the average wage pays. i.e. put a limit on how much/many tax avoidance schemes can achieve.

Surely you have to be a special kind of stupid to piss off all the veterans by disrespecting the D-day commemorations whilst represent a constituency that includes the UK’s biggest military garrison (Catterick).

Whilst no tax is currently deducted from The State Pension its because it’s below the annual tax threshold (£12750) it is classed as taxable income, if the tax threshold is not raised and The State Pension continues to increase at its current level it would be subject to tax more so for people who started to receive the new pension after April 2016.
What’s left out your tax allowance (£12750 frozen until 2027) goes as tax relief for any PP you have, I pay twice as much tax on my monthly income from my PP than I ever received for tax relief on my monthly contributions all those years ago.

Maybe he though Catterick was just a huge Scout Jamboree that it been going on a bit.

it isn,t just the veterans its those who had fathers, grandfathers and now great grandfathers of them who can now vote. i,m like sunak i haven,t but have more common sense not to disrespect them and the occasion.

well i get nothing but state pension and have to pay tax on it due to all the add ons i accrued when working by never being in a pension scheme.

problem is there are laws about where people especially business owners can avoid paying parts of their tax legally with the loopholes that have never been closed up. its the ones on PAYE that have to pay their full dues.

So your State Pension is more than £12750, what add ons do you mean ? If you didn’t opt out of SERPS you could be over the threshold.

I don't understand why there isn't more debate of the freezing of the personal allowance. The government has collected more than 3 times what it expected to yet is still persisting with the freeze for another 4 years. Labour should unfreeze it in their manifesto but won't. It's a bit like putting up the age for the pension. When you work it out it becomes a significant amount of money but because they do it in the way they do people don't feel the impact.

i didn,t opt out of SERPS so that might have done it. threw out my form saying how much i got in total but i,m sure it consisted of about 3 different items to make up the final figure.

there are two ways to look at that. firstly by increasing the personal allowance will put more out of paying income tax and to get the same money they,d have to increase the base rate until the richer you are the more you,d pay. the other is the more people paying tax will get more interested in where it goes and makes them more politically minded that could bite governments in the arse. if you pay nothing you,ll have no personal interest in how and where its being spent.

Everybody with a modicum of sense knows the dice are loaded.
Nothing, Repeat Nothing is in place to benefit the working Man/Woman.
EVER no matter who is in Parliament.

I had something called Protected Rights, I also paid Graduated Pension for a couple of years so they pushed my State Pension up, I did opt out SERPS for 10 years which was directed to a PP.

so true, its a case of who you feel more comfortable with running the country and the less important things one party prioritises over the other.

Don't feel comfortable with either party running the country to be honest. My standard of living will continue to decline due to inflation, public services will continue to decline, the NHS will continue to decline, regardless - meanwhile prices will continue to rise, wokeness will thrive, and taxes will go up. Neither party has a plan, any idea of what the real world feels like, or any new ideas. We need local MPs with integrity and a sense of public duty to do what's right for the people they represent, what we get is greedy, party subservient, in it for themselves 100%.

Personal tax allowances should be linked to inflation.
If the government wants to raise more tax adjust the tax rates preferably at the top end.
Thats what a fair society would do.
Over to you Sir Kier.

think its gone even beyond that and the uni party ideal we have now got. its gone beyond these shores with us being run by unelected world bodies like the WEF and the WHO whose aim is for a uni world where one thing fits all. george orwell put his date too early in his book and hopefully i,ll be dust when it happens.

Rishi Sunak has said he went without "lots of things" as a child, including Sky TV.
When I was a kid we had initially a 14 inch black and white TV with only 1 channel the BBC, what planet does Sunak live on, it just shows how out of touch he is.

He's only mid forties not mid sixties!
When he was in his formative years I very much doubt the kids at the time had ever seen a black and white tv.
The thing is he said they went without to get him to private school, we went without to survive.

Jamie, We all wanted lots of things as a child, never got them though….if he was your age he’d have had to do without a 14” black and white is what he’s saying.
He’s useless, but in this case he’s right…if you were his age, you’d have wanted Sky in like my lads did who moaned that much they got it in eventually, by short circuiting me and going through her indoors.

Tongue in cheek comment about the tv, his parents had decent jobs, his father was a GP and his mother was a pharmacist running her own pharmacy hardly poorly paid jobs.

Just maybe they were, but maybe they were applying their cultural moral code on him, sometimes those who can afford it are the tightest with money, that’s how they have money

I get it, he basically hasn't wanted for much throughout life was the message most of us received.
I dare say Starmer didn't want for too much either even though he had a relatively more humble upbringing.
Neither will have hidden behind the curtains when the insurance man was peering through them, or used old newspaper as bogroll I'm sure.

I think you’ve gotten hold of the wrong end of the stick, I’m defending the bloke.
Starmer goes on and on about his ever so humble father being a humble toolmaker, doesn’t tell you who happened to own the Oxted Tool Co…his father.

The wages differentials weren’t as great back then for GP’s…in 1970 it was £4,800 a year.

Funny how we see thing when we get older.
Hear people say kids, Never see them playing in the streets anymore.
If i had, Had the internet, I would never have left me bedroom

Didn't get the wrong end of the stick Snowy I was replying to Jamie. I'm in agreement with you both btw, neither Starmer nor Sunak will have experienced true deprivation - in the game of haves and have-nots they've both always been well and truly in the haves camp.

Ooops,

wish we could go back to the time of a 17 inch black and white tele when we had only the bbc and itv to watch. no problems as the programmes were much better then. big mini cinema screens in beautiful colour and sound with no picture interuptions with 100,s of channels but sod all to watch like today.

My father was a metalworker, my mother a pharmacist...... I must be Lib Dem

my father was a waster on the dole, my mother on the game so i,ll join the socialist workers party.