Posted by you at 10 minutes after ‘daft O’clock’…..oh the irony…

Difference is I am currently 6 hours ahead of you Snowy, tbh I am not a morning person either Snowy.

I am…….I always get up at five and when the dead beats can’t get up I was the man for getting them up till I was 35 and then had to be nice to people….
Six hours ahead…well when are you coming back, don’t tell me you deny popular convention by coming home for winter…freeze in the winter and spontaneously self combust in the summer.

It looks like Mortimer has left her office in Scarborough Street?

You should have done it with a flourish…’Mortimer has left the building’…in Scarborough Street.
Was the flag lowered and documents burnt, like in the films…?

if you ahead of us can you pass on our results to save us going.

She fled in the night the electorate were after her!

Johnathan Pie take on the G.E.
https://youtu.be/Rp1n7tzFCCE?si=f0rjIzrStn6avJBy

Samantha Lee looking for 10 signatures for her parliamentary candidate form, must be on the electoral role. Fair play to her but Independents very rarely have a voice in Parliament, I believe she managed around 3000 votes the last time.

Peters and Lee have more chance of getting elected.

She runs a company called Publicly Seekers Ltd based in Park Road maybe that describes why she is standing, a journalist who used to cover Pools games for The Mail.

Labour 370
Conservatives 202
Liberals 22
Reform 6
The rest a few here and there

reform would bite your hand off for a result like that.

Who is already bored shi’**less with all the electron bullsh*t being spouted by the various parties, it might liven up tonight with the live debate on BBC with Farage, Rayner, Mordaunt, Flynn etc albeit he will keep rabbiting on about a referendum for independence for Scotland.

Are the Tories deliberately trying to lose this election?

The Reform PPC for Hartlepool is Amanda Napper according to the Reform website. She stood in the local elections in the Hart ward poling 244 votes.

I don't know what affect that will have on the Reform vote for the General Election. In my opinion a national figure like Richard Tice would have encouraged a lager Reform vote.

Well she has a coffee trailer on the promenade last time I looked……..I wouldn’t waste my vote.

Tice stood in Hartlepool in 2019, he got over 10600 votes coming third standing as The Brexit Party securing over 25% of the vote. Fast forward to 2021 John Prescott stood as Reform U.K. and got 368 votes 1.2% per cent of the votes.
I can’t understand why Tice or even Farage are not considering standing in Hartlepool a town where a huge majority voted for Brexit.

Really agree with your POV. Just imaging us ending up with Anne Widdacombe. Doesn't matter what political POV anyone holds she would ruffle plenty of feathers

The only reason I can see for the difference in performance between Tice and Prescott was Boris Johnson was still in play.

I suspect polling has told them the sheep are returning to the Labour flock…. so another 60 years of Labour.

Good Ole Nige, Hope someone asks him When he would close OUR borders, To keep people in i mean!

Big Style.

they might have a cunning plan. really things are so bad now its going to be near impossible for any party to turn things around in the next 5 years.

I agree its going to take a 10 year term to get it back to a decade ago.

If in 5 years nothing improves by the newly elected government there will be another G.E. with one party blaming the other for the failings and we start again like a merry go round.

It all depends if Starmer has as tight a grip on the MP’s he appears to have now.
He’s made a point of employing his own people as Mp’s but there’s still a large rump of them who sure like herding cats to March in formation and will this group revert to type.
I’ m disturbed how he caved in over Abbot, who is a shining example of the ashtray on a motorbike group, useless.
We live in interesting times….especially as the pollsters are expecting an exceptionally low turn out….so much a for overwhelming backing based on appeal.

Starmer caved into Abbot because she was black, if it had been a white person he would have stuck to his guns like he did with Corbyn.
There will be a low turnout, attitude is what difference does it make to who is in government

Starmer just bends in the wind of popular opinion.
Sunak surely has the removal men booked, he's not stupid even though he's done some remarkably stupid things.

if he hadn,t then she would have stood as an independant or one of galloways crowd and got elected making it one less labour mp. the area she represents love her because she is one of them. she will never be in the cabinet but a thorn in starmers arse from the back benches but at lease she is labour.

I wouldn’t have thought one seat would have made a difference, Corbyn is going to stand as an independent and will win I expect.

one seat does not matter but starmer would not want a left wing reform type of party being set up like the tories have to live with by giving power to their dissenters. luckily corbyn and abbott are the wrong ages to cause much dissent but there could be younger ones in the background who,d jump onto it if it existed.

Corbyn isn't finished with Labour yet, he'll be back soon after the election is done and Starmer has been ousted. Not as leader but back into the party for sure.

doubt it as i feel there are more starmers around the labour party than corbyns now. they might only exist in the activists and thats it. same with the tory activists who are more right wing than the party is at the moment.

As long as one of them is NOT Nige.

Corbyn had massive backing within the Party which they equated with the ‘man in the street’ sharing their view, which they obviously didn’t.
But those people didn’t go away…..knowing the Labour Party I’m just surprised the members rolled over and did as they were told when Starmer took over, he always struck me as a leaders clerk, an ‘advisor’ but certainly no ‘iron man’ in charge.
Is Starmer the Trojan Horse….?

It’s Clacton, anything can happen…you may be disappointed.

Most of the hard leaning lefties came from industry which no longer exists, Thatcher seen to that more so after the Miners brought down the Heath government down.
The Labour Party was always influenced or was forced to be influenced by the unions who threatened to withdraw their funding if the Party didn’t support their policies.Are the unions waiting in the wings knowing a victory is in sight and the activists will crawl out of the woodwork again or has Starmer got them all under control ?

what unions. the membership of them must be lower than they have been for over 100 years and the most miletant seem to be the teachers unions. have not got the influence and clout as they once did.

They'll have influence alright, be prepared for teachers, binmen, more NHS, rail, firemen, etc strikes. They haven't gone away they've just been suppressed for a while.

If you bend in he wind, You don,t snap.
Not bothered either way mind

the whole thing is done and dusted now. all we are voting for now is the opposition and the best one to put labour to account.

Lager Reform vote.
Sounds good to me
Plus a huge pay rise with the 20k bfor tax still in their manefesto.
You got to be fucken backward to knock that back.
But some strange people about.

Would I be correct in saying years ago Union Contributions were automatically deducted from your salary like it or not, then they changed the law and made contributions voluntarily resulting in reduction in members.

The warning signs are hidden in plain sight and the country is walking blindfold into giving Starmer a huge majority which will give him the ability to do what the hell he likes, believing he has got the mandate to back him in whatever path he takes. A very dangerous situation is unfolding before our very eyes and we need to be aware of that. Yes we need change, very few would argue with that but surely it has to be change for the better.
Our neighbours are currently appearing to be lurching towards the right, whilst we lurch the other way, all in the name of change.
Worrying times ahead.
One fact has emerged over recent years and that is that Starmer actually does favour change. This is proved by the number of times he changes his mind and his direction.
Do we really want a PM who sticks his finger in the air to decide which change of direction to take next.

could be better than one who is never going to change there mind and carry on regardless no matter what they do wrong or who they upset by never having a change of heart. what we all think is correct today circumstances can change in 24 hours to make us change our minds on subjects.

Of course it could. I am not against change as long as it is for the better and not just for the sake of it. Could is a far reaching word.
Putting a chop and change tinkerer in charge could end up in disaster just as easily as not.
We'll soon find out though.

I don’t think he has got them under control, he collapsed too easily to accommodate Abbot.
We’ll soon see what he’s made of as he’ll be in the spotlight along with his ministers.

Momentum will only ever be under control will only happen if or when one of them becomes leader. They have kept a low profile because it is the only way Labour can become electable but when Labour do take control they will want payback for not rocking the boat. Getting their members and followers into the likes of the Civil Service, the NHS, Teaching, Public Transport, The Utilities and other key areas has got to be their main long term aim.
The direction of this country will be decided when Religious Sects form their own Political Parties. The current tradition of Political Parties will fall foul of the creation of these Parties. The Tories are on the brink as we speak. Can they, will they actually recover?? You'd better hope so because if they can be destroyed, anybody can.

That was a one off as I said more do with her skin colour, if Corbyn had been black he would have been readmitted to the Labour Party.