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The Labour bloke seems quite vocal so if he gets in he may break the mold but you are right we need a big gob to put the town on the map. Failing a big gob the MP needs power of a cabinet minister who when there is a big employer looking to set it somewhere he says " I will have that" and Hartlepool gets it.

isn,t he a local as well and just by being that he,ll get votes from those who are sick of non locals getting voted in or being put up as candidates.


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The Labour bloke seems quite vocal so if he gets in he may break the mold but you are right we need a big gob to put the town on the map. Failing a big gob the MP needs power of a cabinet minister who when there is a big employer looking to set it somewhere he says " I will have that" and Hartlepool gets it.

isn,t he a local as well and just by being that he,ll get votes from those who are sick of non locals getting voted in or being put up as candidates.


He was a Councillor years ago, a right scruffy git, then disappeared during the Acker Belchers reign, returning all prim and proper now as a Councillor., also worked as a Physiology teacher at Yarm and Newcastle. I think he is involved with a company dealing with the mental health of kids called Waterbabies.


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Some thoughts from me about political events. If anyone wants to ridicule well OK, remember I support Pools and always will despite the almost 60 years of ridicule until the presence of J Stelling gave some credence.

I was a boy soldier in 1969 and remember our sergeant telling us that the next war would be a chemical one so forget about being nuclear annihilated. I think that the so called covid thing was a dress rehearsal to see how the public would react. And now the powers that be know exactly. There are those who still go around with masks and they frighten me and those who strip the shelves. You get the picture we have all experienced it. The almost incestuous volunteering to be jabbed by a an untrusted, hastily put together vaccine and the warning was there for people when the government gave the drug companies immunity from paying compensation. Now we are hearing (very quietly) the idea of war being pushed. No talk of conscription (yet but militias and citizens army etc). The real army which I served in now apparently cannot field one division of soldiers. Because the powers that be know they won't need them. Meanwhile Russian threatens us over our involvement with Ukraine. Just yesterday the idea was pedalled of storing up to 3 days of food and water in cases of emergencies ( natural disasters etc). If you believe that you will believe that Pools will every game next season. Then again yesterday was the advice to tape up your windows. Now I seem to have heard that back in the 1950s and again around 1983 when Greenham Common and all that stuff was happening. We folks are being softened up for something none of us wants. I don't like polls cause they ask 5 Pools fans how they will fare OK you know what I mean. But do you remember again recently they put it to the public about who would be willing to fight in the event of the Russian hordes invading our shores. By now you are probably thinking I have lost the plot. Not true. That probably happened in 1965 when I moved to Peterlee to live and began my love affair with Pools. Look at the wider picture folks. When covid occurred I honestly believed it was a dummy run for a chemical warfare attack to see how the public would react. Remember all the ventilators being ordered from Horden Colliery to Honolu and those temporary wards for all the cases to be treated? A practice run my friends. Hope to be proved wrong and ridiculed. I will accept that. As for this election (if it happens) well I can see the so called Labour Party imploding over Gaza, not knowing what a woman is and their second most prominent one under crime scrutiny. I almost forgot that its not what Starmer says he will do but what he hasn't told anyone. The first one his ilk will do is to reverse the democratic vote to leave the undemocratic and foisted upon us EU. How long will it be until Pools turn out in a rainbow away strip. OK well that's enough to get you firing back. How will I vote? Well it will be for the party who protects and upholds our decision to get out of Bray's megaphone utopia. And who know what a woman is and pledges to rid us of woke nonsense and diversity stuff when the money which is there could be spend on helping people. The party who decides to re-nationalise the public utilities because they are too important to be put to private companies. The party who set out to build council houses and social housing and not so called affordable which are anything but to most people. The party that bans second homes when there are those with no roof over their head. Not sure still who to vote for. Cannot find anybody who ticks those boxes for me. Oh, and almost forgot. Secure our borders. They managed in 1939 as a German spy was as rare as a Darlo fan in Church Street. Message to Starmer and Rishi (if you are still leader when the election if it happens comes.) The Tory Macmillan government managed to build 300,000 council houses in one year. Finally, Pools. Stop this mind numbing cross field passing looking for openings and go back to taking people on attacking. Thank you all for reading.



100% how I feel. This is in my humble opinion by far the best political post I have ever read on here. Your eyes are wide open 2-0 let's hope more people follow and open their eyes very soon. clappp clappp clappp


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Leggie43 wrote:
ToTheHartlepool2-0 wrote:
Some thoughts from me about political events. If anyone wants to ridicule well OK, remember I support Pools and always will despite the almost 60 years of ridicule until the presence of J Stelling gave some credence.

I was a boy soldier in 1969 and remember our sergeant telling us that the next war would be a chemical one so forget about being nuclear annihilated. I think that the so called covid thing was a dress rehearsal to see how the public would react. And now the powers that be know exactly. There are those who still go around with masks and they frighten me and those who strip the shelves. You get the picture we have all experienced it. The almost incestuous volunteering to be jabbed by a an untrusted, hastily put together vaccine and the warning was there for people when the government gave the drug companies immunity from paying compensation. Now we are hearing (very quietly) the idea of war being pushed. No talk of conscription (yet but militias and citizens army etc). The real army which I served in now apparently cannot field one division of soldiers. Because the powers that be know they won't need them. Meanwhile Russian threatens us over our involvement with Ukraine. Just yesterday the idea was pedalled of storing up to 3 days of food and water in cases of emergencies ( natural disasters etc). If you believe that you will believe that Pools will every game next season. Then again yesterday was the advice to tape up your windows. Now I seem to have heard that back in the 1950s and again around 1983 when Greenham Common and all that stuff was happening. We folks are being softened up for something none of us wants. I don't like polls cause they ask 5 Pools fans how they will fare OK you know what I mean. But do you remember again recently they put it to the public about who would be willing to fight in the event of the Russian hordes invading our shores. By now you are probably thinking I have lost the plot. Not true. That probably happened in 1965 when I moved to Peterlee to live and began my love affair with Pools. Look at the wider picture folks. When covid occurred I honestly believed it was a dummy run for a chemical warfare attack to see how the public would react. Remember all the ventilators being ordered from Horden Colliery to Honolu and those temporary wards for all the cases to be treated? A practice run my friends. Hope to be proved wrong and ridiculed. I will accept that. As for this election (if it happens) well I can see the so called Labour Party imploding over Gaza, not knowing what a woman is and their second most prominent one under crime scrutiny. I almost forgot that its not what Starmer says he will do but what he hasn't told anyone. The first one his ilk will do is to reverse the democratic vote to leave the undemocratic and foisted upon us EU. How long will it be until Pools turn out in a rainbow away strip. OK well that's enough to get you firing back. How will I vote? Well it will be for the party who protects and upholds our decision to get out of Bray's megaphone utopia. And who know what a woman is and pledges to rid us of woke nonsense and diversity stuff when the money which is there could be spend on helping people. The party who decides to re-nationalise the public utilities because they are too important to be put to private companies. The party who set out to build council houses and social housing and not so called affordable which are anything but to most people. The party that bans second homes when there are those with no roof over their head. Not sure still who to vote for. Cannot find anybody who ticks those boxes for me. Oh, and almost forgot. Secure our borders. They managed in 1939 as a German spy was as rare as a Darlo fan in Church Street. Message to Starmer and Rishi (if you are still leader when the election if it happens comes.) The Tory Macmillan government managed to build 300,000 council houses in one year. Finally, Pools. Stop this mind numbing cross field passing looking for openings and go back to taking people on attacking. Thank you all for reading.



100% how I feel. This is in my humble opinion by far the best political post I have ever read on here. Your eyes are wide open 2-0 let's hope more people follow and open their eyes very soon. clappp clappp clappp




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Grayhoundend wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
ToTheHartlepool2-0 wrote:
Some thoughts from me about political events. If anyone wants to ridicule well OK, remember I support Pools and always will despite the almost 60 years of ridicule until the presence of J Stelling gave some credence.

I was a boy soldier in 1969 and remember our sergeant telling us that the next war would be a chemical one so forget about being nuclear annihilated. I think that the so called covid thing was a dress rehearsal to see how the public would react. And now the powers that be know exactly. There are those who still go around with masks and they frighten me and those who strip the shelves. You get the picture we have all experienced it. The almost incestuous volunteering to be jabbed by a an untrusted, hastily put together vaccine and the warning was there for people when the government gave the drug companies immunity from paying compensation. Now we are hearing (very quietly) the idea of war being pushed. No talk of conscription (yet but militias and citizens army etc). The real army which I served in now apparently cannot field one division of soldiers. Because the powers that be know they won't need them. Meanwhile Russian threatens us over our involvement with Ukraine. Just yesterday the idea was pedalled of storing up to 3 days of food and water in cases of emergencies ( natural disasters etc). If you believe that you will believe that Pools will every game next season. Then again yesterday was the advice to tape up your windows. Now I seem to have heard that back in the 1950s and again around 1983 when Greenham Common and all that stuff was happening. We folks are being softened up for something none of us wants. I don't like polls cause they ask 5 Pools fans how they will fare OK you know what I mean. But do you remember again recently they put it to the public about who would be willing to fight in the event of the Russian hordes invading our shores. By now you are probably thinking I have lost the plot. Not true. That probably happened in 1965 when I moved to Peterlee to live and began my love affair with Pools. Look at the wider picture folks. When covid occurred I honestly believed it was a dummy run for a chemical warfare attack to see how the public would react. Remember all the ventilators being ordered from Horden Colliery to Honolu and those temporary wards for all the cases to be treated? A practice run my friends. Hope to be proved wrong and ridiculed. I will accept that. As for this election (if it happens) well I can see the so called Labour Party imploding over Gaza, not knowing what a woman is and their second most prominent one under crime scrutiny. I almost forgot that its not what Starmer says he will do but what he hasn't told anyone. The first one his ilk will do is to reverse the democratic vote to leave the undemocratic and foisted upon us EU. How long will it be until Pools turn out in a rainbow away strip. OK well that's enough to get you firing back. How will I vote? Well it will be for the party who protects and upholds our decision to get out of Bray's megaphone utopia. And who know what a woman is and pledges to rid us of woke nonsense and diversity stuff when the money which is there could be spend on helping people. The party who decides to re-nationalise the public utilities because they are too important to be put to private companies. The party who set out to build council houses and social housing and not so called affordable which are anything but to most people. The party that bans second homes when there are those with no roof over their head. Not sure still who to vote for. Cannot find anybody who ticks those boxes for me. Oh, and almost forgot. Secure our borders. They managed in 1939 as a German spy was as rare as a Darlo fan in Church Street. Message to Starmer and Rishi (if you are still leader when the election if it happens comes.) The Tory Macmillan government managed to build 300,000 council houses in one year. Finally, Pools. Stop this mind numbing cross field passing looking for openings and go back to taking people on attacking. Thank you all for reading.



100% how I feel. This is in my humble opinion by far the best political post I have ever read on here. Your eyes are wide open 2-0 let's hope more people follow and open their eyes very soon. clappp clappp clappp




They need to be careful, Need to have enough people(minnions) to look after them.
Without citizens countries can not function nor exist.



Spot on Gray :wink:


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I can’t remember a MP representing Hartlepool who actually stood up and made a speech /statement in Parliament although Mortimer did a few months back but I can’t remember what it was about.

The murder by the bloke who’s just been sentenced.

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The Labour bloke seems quite vocal so if he gets in he may break the mold but you are right we need a big gob to put the town on the map. Failing a big gob the MP needs power of a cabinet minister who when there is a big employer looking to set it somewhere he says " I will have that" and Hartlepool gets it.

Brash jumped ship with his missus when the Akers Belchers clique were running their performing circus of a Council.
He returned when they left to apparently stake his claim…..why didn’t he stay and fight?
If you aren’t prepared to challenge them, being an MP is a bigger challenge…or does Starmer like house trained disciples who don’t rock the boat?
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Tice no longer standing in Hartlepool, he is now standing in Boston and Skegness which has a 25000 plus Tory majority.


I wonder who they will put up now in Hartlepool?

Who cares, he’ll have pissed people right off pulling this move…his HQ at Burn Valley looks a bit stupid now, tells you all you need to know.
This was a calculated piece of classic shithousery on his part in my humble opinion and tells me all I need to know about him..he comes across as opportunistic, calculating and ultimately unprincipled ….. a lucky escape for Hartlepool.
The Tory’s will be in the loft going rummaging for a candidate to be sacrificed…the leading contender is Albert RN….or possibly a Kamikze pilot who felt rotten about missing out on his chance in WW2.
George Custer is leading the running.
Sunak is looking more like King Canute with every passing day.

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Jamie1952 wrote:
Tice no longer standing in Hartlepool, he is now standing in Boston and Skegness which has a 25000 plus Tory majority.


I wonder who they will put up now in Hartlepool?

Who cares, he’ll have pissed people right off pulling this move…his HQ at Burn Valley looks a bit stupid now, tells you all you need to know.
This was a calculated piece of classic shithousery on his part in my humble opinion and tells me all I need to know about him..he comes across as opportunistic, calculating and ultimately unprincipled ….. a lucky escape for Hartlepool.
The Tory’s will be in the loft going rummaging for a candidate to be sacrificed…the leading contender is Albert RN….or possibly a Kamikze pilot who felt rotten about missing out on his chance in WW2.
George Custer is leading the running.
Sunak is looking more like King Canute with every passing day.


Last election majority for the Conservatives was as I mentioned 25000, surely he must have had a better chance standing in Hartlepool. Boston and Skegness is very Euroseptic Boston had the highest population of Eastern European residents of anywhere in the UK. so maybe Tice thought he has a better chance standing there.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Bluestreak wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Tice no longer standing in Hartlepool, he is now standing in Boston and Skegness which has a 25000 plus Tory majority.


I wonder who they will put up now in Hartlepool?

Who cares, he’ll have pissed people right off pulling this move…his HQ at Burn Valley looks a bit stupid now, tells you all you need to know.
This was a calculated piece of classic shithousery on his part in my humble opinion and tells me all I need to know about him..he comes across as opportunistic, calculating and ultimately unprincipled ….. a lucky escape for Hartlepool.
The Tory’s will be in the loft going rummaging for a candidate to be sacrificed…the leading contender is Albert RN….or possibly a Kamikze pilot who felt rotten about missing out on his chance in WW2.
George Custer is leading the running.
Sunak is looking more like King Canute with every passing day.


Last election majority for the Conservatives was as I mentioned 25000, surely he must have had a better chance standing in Hartlepool. Boston and Skegness is very Euroseptic Boston had the highest population of Eastern European residents of anywhere in the UK. so maybe Tice thought he has a better chance standing there.

I think that the Hartlepool seat would have been lost by Labour back in 2019, but Reform split the vote and when the disgraced MP had to resign, people realised what happened and realigned their votes…mind you Starmer taking ‘command’ for that by -election (based in Durham ), he chose the man who chaired the committee to take away services from Hartlepool’s hospital and presented him as the man to get them back…doh! :roll:

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Snowy wrote:
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Brash jumped ship with his missus when the Akers Belchers clique were running their performing circus of a Council.
He returned when they left to apparently stake his claim…..why didn’t he stay and fight?
If you aren’t prepared to challenge them, being an MP is a bigger challenge…or does Starmer like house trained disciples who don’t rock the boat?
His only redeeming feature is he’s local.

all leaders like puppets under them to vote on the party line policies even if they do not agree. thats why the electorate are really shafted as its always a block vote on anything for or against and the biggest number gets something past. even a MP that even abstains on a vote is called a rebel even if he has a different take on the issue or it affects his constituents more than others. once a rebel then they are bank benchers for life until voted out in an election or resign. until the day arrives when there are no party whips and MP of all parties can vote the way they want nothing will ever change.


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Maybe iv'e had too much sun on my head this week but did Sunak just say he'd bring back national service for 18 years old. sctatchinghead


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Maybe iv'e had too much sun on my head this week but did Sunak just say he'd bring back national service for 18 years old. sctatchinghead

he did, but its not the old miletary one we might be thinking about. they are looking for votes and not trying to lose even more.


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It’s only for 30,000 volunteers military wise.
The rest would be a non military work for local communities one weekend every month for a year.
It won’t happen.

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It’s only for 30,000 volunteers military wise.
The rest would be a non military work for local communities one weekend every month for a year.
It won’t happen.

it won,t purely because they will not be in power to implement it and is hardly something to bring the don,t knows back on side.


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In my day there was a division in the army called the Junior Tradesman’s Regiment, you joined at 16 for a minimum of 2 years and they trained you up to what ever. They did a presentation at my school, looked great, went home told my Mother I was joining the army nope son no way.


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It’s only for 30,000 volunteers military wise.
The rest would be a non military work for local communities one weekend every month for a year.
It won’t happen.





I get you.We need to be prepared if World War 3 kicks off !!


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It’s only for 30,000 volunteers military wise.
The rest would be a non military work for local communities one weekend every month for a year.
It won’t happen.





I get you.We need to be prepared if World War 3 kicks off !!

There’ll be no WW3 and if there is you won’t be able to say I was wrong. :laugh:
Read my bottom line. :wink: it’s all bollocks. :laugh:

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From what I have read the Labour party have spent a lot of time courting industry etc. If they win this won't be a far left government.

Correct, it will be a globalist pro-immigration party obsessed by the needs minorities and keen to keep the Islamists happy. Very little different from the Tories.


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From what I have read the Labour party have spent a lot of time courting industry etc. If they win this won't be a far left government.

Correct, it will be a globalist pro-immigration party obsessed by the needs minorities and keen to keep the Islamists happy. Very little different from the Tories.



at last something we can get our teeth into ...expand.


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Maybe iv'e had too much sun on my head this week but did Sunak just say he'd bring back national service for 18 years old. sctatchinghead

he did, but its not the old miletary one we might be thinking about. they are looking for votes and not trying to lose even more.



He could have done himself a favour this week if he hadn't asked some Welsh voters if they were looking forward to Euro 24 mr accy...What a campaign this is going to from all sides eh.. :laugh:


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Shoerack played his ace card today, conscription.
100% certain now he wants out.


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Sussex UK wrote:
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Bluestreak wrote:
From what I have read the Labour party have spent a lot of time courting industry etc. If they win this won't be a far left government.

Correct, it will be a globalist pro-immigration party obsessed by the needs minorities and keen to keep the Islamists happy. Very little different from the Tories.



at last something we can get our teeth into ...expand.


Not much to expand. There is little to choose between Labour and Conservatives in terms of policies. Tories claim they want to stop the boats but do nothing whereas Labour keep quiet cos they dont give a toss about the boats either but realize the issue is electorially toxic. Both parties want higher taxes and spend too much time and energy on identitarian politics. Conservatives and Labour have absolutely no understanding of ordinary people. Oh and I think I am right in saying some influential Labour MPs want to bring in refugees from Gaza as if we didnt have enough Islamist nutters in the UK already. Wouldn't vote for either of them. I look forward to any reply.


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Sussex UK wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Bluestreak wrote:
From what I have read the Labour party have spent a lot of time courting industry etc. If they win this won't be a far left government.

Correct, it will be a globalist pro-immigration party obsessed by the needs minorities and keen to keep the Islamists happy. Very little different from the Tories.



at last something we can get our teeth into ...expand.


Not much to expand. There is little to choose between Labour and Conservatives in terms of policies. Tories claim they want to stop the boats but do nothing whereas Labour keep quiet cos they dont give a toss about the boats either but realize the issue is electorially toxic. Both parties want higher taxes and spend too much time and energy on identitarian politics. Conservatives and Labour have absolutely no understanding of ordinary people. Oh and I think I am right in saying some influential Labour MPs want to bring in refugees from Gaza as if we didnt have enough Islamist nutters in the UK already. Wouldn't vote for either of them. I look forward to any reply.

Trouble nowadays is most politicians come from that cosseted University middle class gullible background and they are slowly morphing into one huge blob.
Both Party’s pay scant service to their original background and the MP’s have no idea what their founding fathers believed in because they’ve experienced nothing of real life at any level.
Whoever gets in, nothing will really change.

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Not much to expand. There is little to choose between Labour and Conservatives in terms of policies. Tories claim they want to stop the boats but do nothing whereas Labour keep quiet cos they dont give a toss about the boats either but realize the issue is electorially toxic. Both parties want higher taxes and spend too much time and energy on identitarian politics. Conservatives and Labour have absolutely no understanding of ordinary people. Oh and I think I am right in saying some influential Labour MPs want to bring in refugees from Gaza as if we didnt have enough Islamist nutters in the UK already. Wouldn't vote for either of them. I look forward to any reply.

Trouble nowadays is most politicians come from that cosseted University middle class gullible background and they are slowly morphing into one huge blob.
Both Party’s pay scant service to their original background and the MP’s have no idea what their founding fathers believed in because they’ve experienced nothing of real life at any level.
Whoever gets in, nothing will really change.

only activists from the two main ones call the other a right or left wing party. add the old labour left wingers to the old tory right wingers all together and you,d have room on a mini bus. its down to which party in your mind you are the most comfortable with or as its getting more presidental sunak or starmer. give it a few years like in 2019 so many will be moaning by giving a party a landslide victory because of their record saying why did i bother voting for them. by the time the next election comes up plenty will just not bother to vote again.


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From what I have read the Labour party have spent a lot of time courting industry etc. If they win this won't be a far left government.

Correct, it will be a globalist pro-immigration party obsessed by the needs minorities and keen to keep the Islamists happy. Very little different from the Tories.



at last something we can get our teeth into ...expand.


Not much to expand. There is little to choose between Labour and Conservatives in terms of policies. Tories claim they want to stop the boats but do nothing whereas Labour keep quiet cos they dont give a toss about the boats either but realize the issue is electorially toxic. Both parties want higher taxes and spend too much time and energy on identitarian politics. Conservatives and Labour have absolutely no understanding of ordinary people. Oh and I think I am right in saying some influential Labour MPs want to bring in refugees from Gaza as if we didnt have enough Islamist nutters in the UK already. Wouldn't vote for either of them. I look forward to any reply.

Trouble nowadays is most politicians come from that cosseted University middle class gullible background and they are slowly morphing into one huge blob.
Both Party’s pay scant service to their original background and the MP’s have no idea what their founding fathers believed in because they’ve experienced nothing of real life at any level.
Whoever gets in, nothing will really change.


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All parties still have many vacancies for candidates to represent them at the General Election.
I really fancy standing in a posh constituency hopefully getting in as MP and doing jack shit for them.
It does happen you know :wink:

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As has been mentioned on here the electorate vote for the party not the name on the ballot paper.


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Well if Angus the Monkey was on the paper he would deffo get my vote whatever party he stands for. :wink:

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One thing that really disturbed me was a clip of Sunak stating at a garden party of the faithful that as chancellor he had altered the £ allocation formula's that had existed from the previous labour government to favour the affluent areas at the determent of the deprived areas.
Having worked in this area (Health & Local Government) you only need to adjust these formulas by small percentages to move very large sums of central government funding between areas.
Will the new government reverse this i wonder?

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One thing that really disturbed me was a clip of Sunak stating at a garden party of the faithful that as chancellor he had altered the £ allocation formula's that had existed from the previous labour government to favour the affluent areas at the determent of the deprived areas.
Having worked in this area (Health & Local Government) you only need to adjust these formulas by small percentages to move very large sums of central government funding between areas.
Will the new government reverse this i wonder?


That's very interesting Blue. I don’t fully understand the workings but I am sure you are onto something here. I personally do not trust anything to do with the government. :roll:


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Richard Osman was on TV the other day and he said Sunak called the election because he had enough.
I can believe that of all the reasons touted.

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Richard Osman was on TV the other day and he said Sunak called the election because he had enough.
I can believe that of all the reasons touted.

What AI can’t believe is Osman is a a ‘comedian’ :angry-screaming:

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The incentive was we had to work to pay the bills, what incentive do politicians,most are already well heeled before entering into politics, losing their job won’t make any difference to their lifestyle so they don’t care about others.


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The incentive was we had to work to pay the bills, what incentive do politicians,most are already well heeled before entering into politics, losing their job won’t make any difference to their lifestyle so they don’t care about others.

It was the only incentive, it wasn’t for the comfort, colourful lifestyle or ambience…it was to carry on living.
Mr Micawber got it in one.
Someone tell Starmer to stop emphasising his not so humble background about his father being a mere toolmaker….guess who owned the company…. :roll:

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The incentive was we had to work to pay the bills, what incentive do politicians,most are already well heeled before entering into politics, losing their job won’t make any difference to their lifestyle so they don’t care about others.

with the people they have been mixing with both in and outside of parliament losing there jobs could be a financial boost for them. none will be working in a mundane job or sleeping rough after they lose a job where they are not forced to attend from day 1 with the idea of i,ll pop into the commons today as i have nothing better to do.


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Not a bad little earner,
MPs who suffer an election defeat have previously been entitled to two months of financial assistance to help close their office and manage the departure of staff.

But the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (IPSA), which governs MPs' pay and expenses, has ruled this should be increased to four months.


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I hope Labour add this to their manifesto, Sunak to scrap some rip off university courses in favour of apprenticeships, I would agree providing the apprenticeships are in recognised trades.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clmmry99y4po


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I hope Labour add this to their manifesto, Sunak to scrap some rip off university courses in favour of apprenticeships, I would agree providing the apprenticeships are in recognised trades.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clmmry99y4po

I have my doubts…ALL politicians have little idea what a proper apprenticeship is, it’s a buzz word for them with little comprehension of its true meaning.
They class a two week course shelf stacking in pound shops as ‘apprentice training ’ and probably hand out a mock certificate to go with it.
Never trust any party when it comes to apprenticeships….they’re all middle class and patronising.

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I hope Labour add this to their manifesto, Sunak to scrap some rip off university courses in favour of apprenticeships, I would agree providing the apprenticeships are in recognised trades.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clmmry99y4po

I have my doubts…ALL politicians have little idea what a proper apprenticeship is, it’s a buzz word for them with little comprehension of its true meaning.
They class a two week course shelf stacking in pound shops as ‘apprentice training ’ and probably hand out a mock certificate to go with it.
Never trust any party when it comes to apprenticeships….they’re all middle class and patronising.

or have the apprenticeship at a university where they can come out with a degree in welding or plumbing. follow this by even more years taken up by training till hopefully they can then reach retirement age without doing a full days work and the government can proudly state they have kept people off the streets.


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I hope Labour add this to their manifesto, Sunak to scrap some rip off university courses in favour of apprenticeships, I would agree providing the apprenticeships are in recognised trades.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clmmry99y4po

I have my doubts…ALL politicians have little idea what a proper apprenticeship is, it’s a buzz word for them with little comprehension of its true meaning.
They class a two week course shelf stacking in pound shops as ‘apprentice training ’ and probably hand out a mock certificate to go with it.
Never trust any party when it comes to apprenticeships….they’re all middle class and patronising.

or have the apprenticeship at a university where they can come out with a degree in welding or plumbing. follow this by even more years taken up by training till hopefully they can then reach retirement age without doing a full days work and the government can proudly state they have kept people off the streets.



Correct me if I am wrong but there are training courses like that already at the local college, you don’t learn a trade sitting behind a desk.


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Considering Farage is not standing as an MP he is constantly being interviewed in the MSM.
He is on the Question Time panel tonight along with Morgan, Hinds and Streetin, no representative from any of the other parties.


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Why should Farage get any airtime at all. He has done virtually nothing but the press are fascinated by him. Yes i could understand Tice as a current party leader or Meatloaf or Dianne Abbot or Jill Mortimer or me.
He was just an MEP from 1999 to 2020 just like many many others.

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I hope Labour add this to their manifesto, Sunak to scrap some rip off university courses in favour of apprenticeships, I would agree providing the apprenticeships are in recognised trades.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clmmry99y4po


Its just talk to warm the hearts of the Daily Mail readers.
As with many things promised there will be no delivery.

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Why should Farage get any airtime at all. He has done virtually nothing but the press are fascinated by him. Yes i could understand Tice as a current party leader or Meatloaf or Dianne Abbot or Jill Mortimer or me.
He was just an MEP from 1999 to 2020 just like many many others.


30p Lee Anderson Fiona Bruce said was invited on QT last night but he turned it down so Farage took his place.


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Considering Farage is not standing as an MP he is constantly being interviewed in the MSM.
He is on the Question Time panel tonight along with Morgan, Hinds and Streetin, no representative from any of the other parties.

Well ask the media, it’s their choice who they have on….. Farage can’t turn up and put himself on.
The meeeeja are chasing him for a comment.

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Considering Farage is not standing as an MP he is constantly being interviewed in the MSM.
He is on the Question Time panel tonight along with Morgan, Hinds and Streetin, no representative from any of the other parties.

Well ask the media, it’s their choice who they have on….. Farage can’t turn up and put himself on.


Your off again Snowy, oh look it’s daft o’clock, not a morning person are you, I already said he turned it down so no need to ask the media.
30p wasn’t on is because he is a bit of a loose cannon, you ever seen him being interviewed.


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Considering Farage is not standing as an MP he is constantly being interviewed in the MSM.
He is on the Question Time panel tonight along with Morgan, Hinds and Streetin, no representative from any of the other parties.

Well ask the media, it’s their choice who they have on….. Farage can’t turn up and put himself on.


Your off again Snowy, oh look it’s daft o’clock, not a morning person are you, I already said he turned it down so no need to ask the media.
30p wasn’t on is because he is a bit of a loose cannon, you ever seen him being interviewed.

Your Mussolini style persecution complex is still in top gear I see, …… seek help.
Read your above post because you really do have a problem with the English language…… whatever you say your said must have been on another post….it isn’t there up above…… you have a problem. :roll:

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Why should Farage get any airtime at all. He has done virtually nothing but the press are fascinated by him. Yes i could understand Tice as a current party leader or Meatloaf or Dianne Abbot or Jill Mortimer or me.
He was just an MEP from 1999 to 2020 just like many many others.

agree. someone making a better living than he would have done if he had the guts in the first place to stand for parliament in the best seat he could think of. there are many that agree with him especilly with the dinghy divers that without his high profile i feel we,d know less about the situation and numbers than we do. however he is just a mouthpiece on a bigger stage like we are on the bunker but thats it.


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