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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2024 9:30 am 
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we wont see anyone through the door till at least mid june


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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we wont see anyone through the door till at least mid june

do not bring reality on here. you,ll have to supply razor blades to fans coming out with stuff like that.


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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Meanwhile Barnet have signed another player - Ipswich Town goalie who was on loan at Solihull last season - is that 5 or 6 they've brought in now? Oldham have announced they've got 3,000 season ticket holders signed up already, and York have lined up a pre-season friendly with Sheffield United.

Looking forward to something new on the OS after HUFC women play their last game of the season on Sunday...


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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Meanwhile Barnet have signed another player - Ipswich Town goalie who was on loan at Solihull last season - is that 5 or 6 they've brought in now? Oldham have announced they've got 3,000 season ticket holders signed up already, and York have lined up a pre-season friendly with Sheffield United.

Looking forward to something new on the OS after HUFC women play their last game of the season on Sunday...

getting the right players in before pre season is better than not getting the right ones by doing it early. as for oldham they have double our fans and seeing there early bird finishes next week that number might be all they,ll end up with. if so thats roughly the same as pools selling 1,500.


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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accrington fan wrote:
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Meanwhile Barnet have signed another player - Ipswich Town goalie who was on loan at Solihull last season - is that 5 or 6 they've brought in now? Oldham have announced they've got 3,000 season ticket holders signed up already, and York have lined up a pre-season friendly with Sheffield United.

Looking forward to something new on the OS after HUFC women play their last game of the season on Sunday...

getting the right players in before pre season is better than not getting the right ones by doing it early. as for oldham they have double our fans and seeing there early bird finishes next week that number might be all they,ll end up with. if so thats roughly the same as pools selling 1,500. as for playing sheff.u youth and squad team in a friendly i bet they cannot wait to put the sold out signs up.


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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accrington fan wrote:
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Meanwhile Barnet have signed another player - Ipswich Town goalie who was on loan at Solihull last season - is that 5 or 6 they've brought in now? Oldham have announced they've got 3,000 season ticket holders signed up already, and York have lined up a pre-season friendly with Sheffield United.

Looking forward to something new on the OS after HUFC women play their last game of the season on Sunday...

as for oldham they have double our fans and seeing there early bird finishes next week that number might be all they,ll end up with. if so thats roughly the same as pools selling 1,500.


It won't be all they end up with. There's always a last minute rush - happens at Pools every year.


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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Qualify new signings usually rely on Season Ticket sales, judging by the apathy there won’t be many buying them meaning no quality signings unless Raj puts his hand in his pocket.


Stalemate!!


Maybe players and staff have holidays at the end of the football season?

Or perhaps the players are still under contract and the announcement will be made when the contract ends?


NO


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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Flying Hogans wrote:
Meanwhile Barnet have signed another player - Ipswich Town goalie who was on loan at Solihull last season - is that 5 or 6 they've brought in now? Oldham have announced they've got 3,000 season ticket holders signed up already, and York have lined up a pre-season friendly with Sheffield United.

Looking forward to something new on the OS after HUFC women play their last game of the season on Sunday...


Barnet 7 in now latest Sutton CB Joe Kizzi

Barnet = Ambition.


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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accrington fan wrote:
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Meanwhile Barnet have signed another player - Ipswich Town goalie who was on loan at Solihull last season - is that 5 or 6 they've brought in now? Oldham have announced they've got 3,000 season ticket holders signed up already, and York have lined up a pre-season friendly with Sheffield United.

Looking forward to something new on the OS after HUFC women play their last game of the season on Sunday...

getting the right players in before pre season is better than not getting the right ones by doing it early. as for oldham they have double our fans and seeing there early bird finishes next week that number might be all they,ll end up with. if so thats roughly the same as pools selling 1,500.


Barnet signings are NOT the wrong ones imo, But time will tell.


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Qualify new signings usually rely on Season Ticket sales, judging by the apathy there won’t be many buying them meaning no quality signings unless Raj puts his hand in his pocket.


Also Poolies are fed up of this type of blackmail. They've done what they've been asked year after year and not received what they've been promised.


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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We haven't been promised anything have we?


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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We haven't been promised anything have we?


For us to be competitive?
:laugh: :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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Don't think anyone promised that though, said they want to be competing and I'm sure they meant it and tried but failed.


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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Barnet definitely seem to be going for it.

Pools as usual wont say anything until June when we get the dregs--funny how this cant sign until players contracts up only effects us......still Feather and Ferguson have signed new contracts-am sure they will be advertised as proof of ambition !


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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Grayhoundend wrote:
Snailwood2 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Qualify new signings usually rely on Season Ticket sales, judging by the apathy there won’t be many buying them meaning no quality signings unless Raj puts his hand in his pocket.


Stalemate!!


Maybe players and staff have holidays at the end of the football season?

Or perhaps the players are still under contract and the announcement will be made when the contract ends?


NO


This is supposed to be a no excuses recruitment session this summer.
It's a clean slate with no baggage.
Onwards and!!!!!!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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PTID wrote:
Don't think anyone promised that though, said they want to be competing and I'm sure they meant it and tried but failed.


Aw well, our stupid fault then. We were not promised that we wouldn't be shite.


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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Don't think anyone promised that though, said they want to be competing and I'm sure they meant it and tried but failed.


Aw well, our stupid fault then. We were not promised that we wouldn't be shite.


Shame Imp because the promise of being shite would always be fulfilled at Pools :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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I'm certain we'll be wanting to be competitive this coming season but who knows if we will be?
Anyone who promises anything other than effort in football is more than likely to be disappointed.


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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Forest green signed a couple of cheltenham better players and Corterill knows what he is doing, another club ahead of us already


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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Worrying isn't it, still May and we haven't signed any new players yet - might as well just pack it all in eh?


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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Aren’t most players contracted till the end of June then they become free agents ?


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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PTID wrote:
Worrying isn't it, still May and we haven't signed any new players yet - might as well just pack it all in eh?


Keep the Faith.
Don't throw the towel in to Early :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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Leggie43 wrote:
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Don't think anyone promised that though, said they want to be competing and I'm sure they meant it and tried but failed.


Aw well, our stupid fault then. We were not promised that we wouldn't be shite.


Shame Imp because the promise of being shite would always be fulfilled at Pools :laugh:


And some failure lovers Luv it. bbolt :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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I'm certain we'll be wanting to be competitive this coming season but who knows if we will be?
Anyone who promises anything other than effort in football is more than likely to be disappointed.

showing real effort and not being pushovers next season would certainly be a start.


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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Forest green signed a couple of cheltenham better players and Corterill knows what he is doing, another club ahead of us already

did you actually see any of those supposed stars from cheltenham play. forset green might be doing what a lot do by bigging up new signings to a point where fans expect them to be as good as paterson and ndjoli etc.


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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Barnet definitely seem to be going for it.

Pools as usual wont say anything until June when we get the dregs--funny how this cant sign until players contracts up only effects us......still Feather and Ferguson have signed new contracts-am sure they will be advertised as proof of ambition !

we are doomed and the end of the world is nigh. we haven,t come back to pre season training yet and its not a race to bring players in. one reason we might be a bit slow out of the blocks is again appointing a new manager after the season is over and no verbal talks with players last season has not taken place. do not tell me thats illegal and does not happen because it does. when someone is signed talks will have gone on for weeks before and we are slow to publish names of them also. lests wait till we see who actually is in the squad for the first league game before we knock the players as last minute panic signings and the R word gets used again.


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I’m not too fussed. If it’s the same when the players are back for pre season or we only have a few additions then that will be the time to panic. For players to be signing now you need to offer them big money or be a very attractive football club - can anyway really say we can offer either?


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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I’m not too fussed. If it’s the same when the players are back for pre season or we only have a few additions then that will be the time to panic. For players to be signing now you need to offer them big money or be a very attractive football club - can anyway really say we can offer either?

yes and if its ex league players we are looking at they,ll be looking for a league club first before they,d consider the stigma of becoming a non league player unless they are bribed with wages to become one.


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Aren’t most players contracted till the end of June then they become free agents ?


1st of June :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
Snailwood2 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Qualify new signings usually rely on Season Ticket sales, judging by the apathy there won’t be many buying them meaning no quality signings unless Raj puts his hand in his pocket.


Stalemate!!


Maybe players and staff have holidays at the end of the football season?

Or perhaps the players are still under contract and the announcement will be made when the contract ends?


NO


This is supposed to be a no excuses recruitment session this summer.
It's a clean slate with no baggage.
Onwards and!!!!!!!!!


Im waiting for the euros as an excuse before we panic.


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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It doesnt really matter when we sign players this season, because we will only get what we can afford and it wont be very much. So we might as well do what we do most seasons wait for the season ticket sales to come in, save a months wages and get the dreggs then. Pointless getting the shite in now when we can do it a month down the line. Let the barnets of this world show ambition, who is to say they are getting decent players anyway? Id hazard a guess before tge season starts they will once again be up their though.


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It doesnt really matter when we sign players this season, because we will only get what we can afford and it wont be very much. So we might as well do what we do most seasons wait for the season ticket sales to come in, save a months wages and get the dreggs then. Pointless getting the shite in now when we can do it a month down the line. Let the barnets of this world show ambition, who is to say they are getting decent players anyway? Id hazard a guess before tge season starts they will once again be up their though.

then you need to get half way through the season at least to find out if the new signings have been any good anyway. some players start slow and others quickly and there is always now the injury situation that hits so many clubs. our recruitment last season in summer wasn,t too bad as our league position showed before the injuries kicked in. if we could sign similar along with the ones we already have but having more depth to the squad those who have bought their season ticket might have though it was a gamble worth taking.


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
It doesnt really matter when we sign players this season, because we will only get what we can afford and it wont be very much. So we might as well do what we do most seasons wait for the season ticket sales to come in, save a months wages and get the dreggs then. Pointless getting the shite in now when we can do it a month down the line. Let the barnets of this world show ambition, who is to say they are getting decent players anyway? Id hazard a guess before tge season starts they will once again be up their though.

then you need to get half way through the season at least to find out if the new signings have been any good anyway. some players start slow and others quickly and there is always now the injury situation that hits so many clubs. our recruitment last season in summer wasn,t too bad as our league position showed before the injuries kicked in. if we could sign similar along with the ones we already have but having more depth to the squad those who have bought their season ticket might have though it was a gamble worth taking.



Our problem is and always will be strength in depth , so we need a good start most seasons, because as we have seen our players are made out of chocolate in the red hot sun, once september arrives we are on our bones.


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Injuries played a big part in a disappointing season for sure, along with the main 2 of Dodds and Mancini there was also Lacey who was decent when fit, and Mani D was out for a fair spell. What was puzzling was the loss of form of Dixon who started ok, Seaman, Hendrie and Fergy.
Without doubt the 2 factors cost us more than the extra 9 or 10 points required to make the play offs. Not excuses, just opinion as to what went wrong, obviously we didn't have the strength in depth required to respond, or perhaps we did in the Academy but didn't utilise them?


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Injuries played a big part in a disappointing season for sure, along with the main 2 of Dodds and Mancini there was also Lacey who was decent when fit, and Mani D was out for a fair spell. What was puzzling was the loss of form of Dixon who started ok, Seaman, Hendrie and Fergy.
Without doubt the 2 factors cost us more than the extra 9 or 10 points required to make the play offs. Not excuses, just opinion as to what went wrong, obviously we didn't have the strength in depth required to respond, or perhaps we did in the Academy but didn't utilise them?


Think our one hope is mancini and dodds are fit and back to their best, unfortunately that looks unlikely for a while yet.


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Injuries played a big part in a disappointing season for sure, along with the main 2 of Dodds and Mancini there was also Lacey who was decent when fit, and Mani D was out for a fair spell. What was puzzling was the loss of form of Dixon who started ok, Seaman, Hendrie and Fergy.
Without doubt the 2 factors cost us more than the extra 9 or 10 points required to make the play offs. Not excuses, just opinion as to what went wrong, obviously we didn't have the strength in depth required to respond, or perhaps we did in the Academy but didn't utilise them?

we lost the effectivness of seaman the moment mancini got injured as he was as good as him previously when dodds was also in the side. you could say he was limited or a one trick pony but what he did have was superior to most. again fergy is only any good when the team are doing well but thought hendrie,s form did not suffer that much though. as for dixon i have never been impressed with him before we signed him and jamesons loss of form to bring back dixon was a bigger surprise.


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Thought Dixon did OK at the start of the season but his form dippex, then when he got back into the side he started off well with a couple of excellent performances but the dropped off again badly.


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Thought Dixon did OK at the start of the season but his form dippex, then when he got back into the side he started off well with a couple of excellent performances but the dropped off again badly.

dixon was a mark 2 killip when you expected them to concede before they did. something about them unlike a number who played against us where you thought we aint going to score against him even before we had a shot. wonder if opposition forwards thought the same way and if someone really does not look the part it gives em confidence.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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Injuries played a big part in a disappointing season for sure, along with the main 2 of Dodds and Mancini there was also Lacey who was decent when fit, and Mani D was out for a fair spell. What was puzzling was the loss of form of Dixon who started ok, Seaman, Hendrie and Fergy.
Without doubt the 2 factors cost us more than the extra 9 or 10 points required to make the play offs. Not excuses, just opinion as to what went wrong, obviously we didn't have the strength in depth required to respond, or perhaps we did in the Academy but didn't utilise them?


Think our one hope is mancini and dodds are fit and back to their best, unfortunately that looks unlikely for a while yet.


Looks that way and 1 of the wingers needed will be Mancini classed as a new player.
Id say its 50/50 regarding his fitness.
Reckon we swaying more towards luck than serious ambition to get back to EFL.
Early days but no doubt the no transfer window will get knocked out by Sarly come August.
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Seaman just wasn’t good enough. He’s been released by Donny after spending the 2nd half of the season at Wealdstone. They didn’t rate him either - he only played for them 7 times and not at all in the last 3 months of the season. NLN next would be my guess.


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Seaman just wasn’t good enough. He’s been released by Donny after spending the 2nd half of the season at Wealdstone. They didn’t rate him either - he only played for them 7 times and not at all in the last 3 months of the season. NLN next would be my guess.

mind you if mancini does come back playing like he did before his injury at chesterfield i,d have seaman back like a shot if he hadn,t found a permanent club by then. he looked two different players, the one with dodds and mancini in the side and the one without them and looked worse then than the jocks.


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
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PTID wrote:
Worrying isn't it, still May and we haven't signed any new players yet - might as well just pack it all in eh?


Loyal Fan has a valid point, FGR have signed a couple of good players.


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Grayhoundend wrote:
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Worrying isn't it, still May and we haven't signed any new players yet - might as well just pack it all in eh?


Loyal Fan has a valid point, FGR have signed a couple of good players.


Its not the fact its only may its leaving it till most of the good players are signed up thats tge problem we have. Still plenty of time to sign quality but the longer its left the harder it is. It might only be May but the season finished 5 weejs ago now. Only 3 year ago we had the excuse we only had about 8 weeks to prepare for the new season, but every year we tend to wait till that point anyway, yet we made a huge a deal about it. If you want the best players in general you got to get in early. Next thing our fans say is yeah but the lian system is still open.

One things for certain were hardly pulling up trees to try and entice people to buy season tickets.


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Worrying isn't it, still May and we haven't signed any new players yet - might as well just pack it all in eh?


Loyal Fan has a valid point, FGR have signed a couple of good players.

then who was our first signing last year and when was that. think burton was the first outfield player to be signed, a player some might have never seen live in a pools shirt. when at what dates were any player signed even the good ones. suppose in some peoples eyes mancini was dross because he wasn,t signed in may.


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accrington fan wrote:
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Worrying isn't it, still May and we haven't signed any new players yet - might as well just pack it all in eh?


Loyal Fan has a valid point, FGR have signed a couple of good players.

then who was our first signing last year and when was that. think burton was the first outfield player to be signed, a player some might have never seen live in a pools shirt. when at what dates were any player signed even the good ones. suppose in some peoples eyes mancini was dross because he wasn,t signed in may.



Can sign great players at any time just a lot less of them left in the pot. Mancini was a great player for 2 months but at the end of the day we need great players for a season to get out of this league.


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Worrying isn't it, still May and we haven't signed any new players yet - might as well just pack it all in eh?


Loyal Fan has a valid point, FGR have signed a couple of good players.

then who was our first signing last year and when was that. think burton was the first outfield player to be signed, a player some might have never seen live in a pools shirt. when at what dates were any player signed even the good ones. suppose in some peoples eyes mancini was dross because he wasn,t signed in may.



Can sign great players at any time just a lot less of them left in the pot. Mancini was a great player for 2 months but at the end of the day we need great players for a season to get out of this league.

all managers want that for their club and if it was that easy even raj would not be able to sack one. we could get any single player we wanted if the money was there but its not nailed on they,d be injury or bad form free for a full season. its not a perfect world at pools where everyone will ever be happy, but i doubt it is at th etihad after city,s defeat yesterday. anybody who wants perfction had better stay away from all sport as they,ll never find it.


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2024 12:54 pm 
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We might be looking at players who've been involved in play offs or gone on holiday, who knows?
To try and compare this close season with the promotion one is like comparing apples to boiled eggs. The play off final was 20th June and we couldn't even do much pre negotiations as we didn't know what league we'd be playing in.
If we signed 12 tomorrow they'll be written off as shite, rush signings, bargain basement etc before they even kick a ball.
I suppose if nothings actually happening it's just a case of trying to find a way to criticise or fabricate a crisis though.


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2024 1:08 pm 
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All I know is the pattern we've endured over the last few years has us doing our business late. Most of the signings have looked dubious on paper and the 'wait and see' approach resulted in waiting, seeing and being unsurprisingly disappointed. I think it doesn't take a great deal of expertise to know who is making ambitious signings and who is not. We may yet still.

It would be interesting to see how many clubs promoted through the NL play-offs have struggled with signing/retaining players. I'm not convinced by that excuse knowing the farcical way the club has been run but I could be convinced.


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 Post subject: Re: New Signings
PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2024 2:06 pm 
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The promoted clubs this season have an extra month to what we had. Our final was 20th June theirs was last weekend - 5 weeks of difference. Have any of the promoted clubs signed a boat load of players yet? In fact how many clubs have actually made much progress in announcing new signings, I've not heard much so far.


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