I dont 'blame the migrants'--I blame the people facilitating their entry without any proper controls or thought around whether it benefits the native population.
Am sure a very high % of immigrants just want a chance of a better life, however their minimum standards are lower, so they wil accept lower wages/life quality--so the very rich have a larger pool of labor to exploit.

Add to that the cultures in most cases are very different which makes integration hard, and the relatively high % of males in the migrant population then you have a recipe for disaster
Lets import a bunch of men, who have cultural difference, will be among the poorest economically and who outnumber women in their demograph so will have a higher chance of being unmarried/without a partner......if you wanted to destabilize society on purpose you couldnt come up with a better way of doing it.

The solution to the migration problem is very simple, make it a consumption tax.

Survey the entire country and place migrants/asylum seekers proportionally in the places which survey as the most welcoming/pro letting more people in.
Those locals then get to benefit from all the cultural enrichment they talk about and migrants benefit from being located where they are most favorably viewed and so have the best chance of success.

Would seem like a win all round with everyone getting what they claim they want.

[quote="Sussex UK"]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13425425/Netherlands-EU-rules-strictest-asylum-policy.html


Congratulations Geert..'forcibly removed' ..that's how you treat criminals.[/quote

So it was a surprise to the Dutch main steam media that he was elected?
Isn’t it strange because your a Euro sceptic,your branded right wing.

Watched the summing up by the judge at sentencing yesterday about our local killing and it certainly opened my eyes.[/quote]



Pure evil,and just look at the reasons he gave .How many more are there out there just like him?? ..guardian readers please take note of the content of the police interview..

Pure evil,and just look at the reasons he gave .How many more are there out there just like him?? ..guardian readers please take note of the content of the police interview..[/quote]
The remark about wishing he had a gun was even more disturbing.

The remark about wishing he had a gun was even more disturbing.[/quote]


Unfortunately this problem is here forever now and nothing will stop this madness reoccurring all over the country time n time again. It is the new norm now and was planned that way " by the few " many years ago. Look at the vast majority coming over and it's plain to see most are young men of fighting age.

The remark about wishing he had a gun was even more disturbing.[/quote]

And you can guarantee he will receive special privileges whilst locked up including meals etc.

And you can guarantee he will receive special privileges whilst locked up including meals etc.[/quote]
He also assaulted two female officers interviewing him….in all honesty, who would be so naive as to leave two female officers with a character like that given his background …?

Until somebody grows a pair, this is just gonna carry on.

Currently there isn’t a solution, the French quite happily turn a blind eye only stopping a token number of boats ss if to show they are making an effort. Even if there were safe and legal routes the numbers won’t decrease, there were 750000 people granted visas last year. There is no way of knowing wether they were short or long term and no way of keeping track of the applicants once their visas expire.

my big wish is just to stop calling them asylum seekers. the vast majority are law breaking immegrants only coming here for a better life. its about time we are called enrichers as that is what we are doing for them. they are the ones that gain far more than the average brit will ever get out of the situation. apart from the early post war period when we needed more workers what have we ever gained from any mass immegration to this country. the curry house.

On the one hand we are told that there is a massive backlog of visa applications and now you are reporting that we issued 750000 in one year.
Are you sure. Sounds a phenomenal amount to me. Where are these stats quoted, can you give us a link.

you can solve the backlog now. just give a visa to them all and i could see that happening quicker than sending the buggers back.

The annual intake of legal migrants far outweigh the illegal migrants by a massive margin, are the illegals a convenient distraction?……and these legals can’t all be nuclear physicists and brain surgeons….I get the feeling it’s cheap labour to hold down wages and produce a more compliant workforce by bringing in more people happy to work for less money.
The old globalist move.
And why is there no urgent attempt to check on the people on benefits who could work which has now reached phenomenal numbers.
There’s plenty of genuine cases who deserve what the get, but there’s plenty who need looking into.

Two people working fulltime in a household on minimum wage gross £50k per annum. More if they get overtime or bonuses.
As husband and wife both having jobs has been the norm for years now why are they struggling.
Of course a lot of couples are on a lot more than that.
People on state pension have to manage on a helluva lot less than that.
The benefits must be at astronomical levels to beat or match £50k per annum.
I asked a social worker to define child poverty in this country and she said "not having a smart phone". It was not having a pair of shoes when I was a kid.

the last sentence sums up the problems that have been created. it goes down to your actual summer holiday where now a week at blackpool is called a staycation where a week abroad is actually a holiday. once a staycation was taken by the poor who stayed at home and went nowhere. makes me wonder how we and our grandparents ever actually survived in the past where the treats we had have become the norm. anyone thinking of coming to this country will do there utmost to get over here if they read things like this and who could really blame them.

Nearly 40% of claimants on Universal Credit have jobs.The government is expected to spend £90bn on UC in 2024-25. They work part time which keeps them at a level so they can still claim benefits, you can’t force them to go full time, they probably can only work when the kids are at school.

Oddly enough we had some on 16 hours contracts, but when their assessment was due they worked only the basic 16 hours, once the assessment was done they’d fight like scrapyard dogs for overtime…which begs the question why wasn’t the full earnings for the year used as a guide?

Lets squeeze in a poll tax for all the luvvies to make them all accountable ..

some have done the same years back by working the basic 38 hour week for assesment and then do the extra. nothing new in this as it happened during the blair days. cannot be a coincidence that a lot of todays crap goes back to his years in power.

The Tories have had 14 years to put it right, doesn’t the 16 hours suit employers and employees, no tax or N.I. for either?

He also invented PFI….that died the death after he left, Gordon Brown sorted that one out.

You’d have been complaining if they had.

Why would I be complaining Snowy, didn’t take you long to start sniping at me again, in my working days I have never felt better or worse off no matter what party was in power. I worked in contracting no governments ever found or assisted me in finding a job. In some ways I would like the Tory Party to stay in power to try and sort out the mess we are in.

Whoooo we are touchy. Read your own posts, in your version of English you were backing Blair but pass the blame on to whoever followed for not putting his fire out..
Going on the content of your posts, there’s more chance of me climbing Everest than you voting Tory…… so drop the smokescreen, it’s the worst camouflage since they considered painting one of the new aircraft carriers pink to appeal to female tax payers.

You must be reading some one else’s posts Snowy I have never backed Tony Blair, he should be done for war crimes nor have I voted for the Labour Party or the Tory Party or any other party, I don’t vote. Your opinions of me are all wrong, you are a poor judge of character more so your opinions of me are based on what I write on a message board.

Regarding Blair….I said in your version of English….not that you were backing Blair, subtle difference.
I backed Blair in 97 and the second time …..but then his bloom faded. PFI did it for me and his directive that shattered services at our hospital.

never reached the second time for me as there were too many sickly grins for me the first time around and also felt without any proof at all that his wife had a say in his actions. possibly the first time ever that we looked to have a president more than an actual prime minister.

As I said I never vote or haven’t done for as long as I can remember, I won’t vote again until we have some real politicians not one’s straight out of university with a degree in economics and politics then straight into the offices of a political party.
Grass roots politicians ones who actually know what life is like on the outside, they don’t exist anymore if they ever resurfaced I might think about voting again.

wonder why women now come over as the ones who give the impression of knowing more about real life and its problems far more than the men do who sound and actually look the same.

For the first time ever, I’m resigned to not voting.
It’s like putting your hand in a lucky dip that contains razor blades, acid, broken glass and cyanide….whatever you pick is gonna hurt you somehow.

join the Abstainers Party. the one i feel is growing in popularity more than the others.

I'm surprised you have never voted for as long as you can remember, especially with you avid interest in politics.
You being a dedicated remainer I cant believe you didn't vote at the last GE when the slogan of the Government was "Get Brexit Done" I would have gambled on you casting your vote as soon as the bloody doors opened against Brexit.
Strange.

I am an avid follower of politics that’s why I don’t vote.

That’s like saying I’m an avid follower of football but never watch it

I am an avid follower of football and yes I don’t watch it, maybe some highlights now and again but only Pools. You can follow anything on the MSN, it doesn’t mean to say you have to watch it. I go to Pools games when I can, the last Pools football game I watched on TV was the play off final.

same here and the only live ones i watch are pools games with once a month at stockport to meat my lad as it saves both of us travelling further and there are no kids or partners listening in.

Are you saying that none of the political parties are worth voting for??

Yes, exactly and many others won’t bother to vote either like me saying no matter who is in power it won’t change nowt, all the parties now are middle of the road with Reform a bit more to the right.

So obviously you are not interested in middle of the road or a bit more to the right so where do you see your ideal party........to the left???

A party who conducts a full investigation into why some people are better off being unemployed than working, companies made to take apprentices on at 16 for trades like bricklayers,joiners, plumbers, electricians, welders, fitters. etc instead of sending them to college for the first 2 years then throwing them to the dogs to look for a job. I started my apprentice on the tools at 16 with day release.

I would like a party to re nationalise all the Utility Companies the majority foreign owned I can’t see that being affordable though.Take control of the UKs North Sea Oil and Gas, Norways Sovereign Wealth Fund is worth $1.6 trillion the biggest on the globe albeit I think it’s a case of closing the gate after the horse has bolted.

Free University Fees for Medical professionals and Engineers but with a rider they spend at least 5 years in the U.K. in their profession or pay the fees back.

Politicians to have spent a few years working at grass roots level instead of going from Uni straight into politics not knowing what it’s like on the outside.

Introduce a course for kids making them aware of how the Finance Industry works so they don’t have to rely on Independent Financial Advisors.

U.K. companies who have Call Centres abroad made to return them to the U.K. as they are only based abroad for financial reasons, cheap Labour.

I’m gonna vote for you Jamie, I like that manifesto……just add dumping net zero and I’ll vote for it.

I forgot to add dump the expensive wind farms and create tidal power the sea never stops not like the wind,

And the loony heat pumps that cost a fortune to install and gives you warmish water….I remember spending a few weeks back in the 80’s in the sun drilling down and trying that concept out and the universal opinion of it was ‘f@#£ that’ for a game of cricket.
I think these things are thought up by people who live in ‘Gated Communities’ who can keep the real world out of sight.

So obviously you are not interested in middle of the road or a bit more to the right so where do you see your ideal party........to the left???[/quote]
well the middle of the road has done sod all for me and really for the average man in the street what difference has there been being in our out of the EU. For me things are just the same. It cannot be just a coincidence that people from the far right or far left are far more interesting than the bland middle of the road politician from any party. not going to vote myself and can understand others doing the same. whats the point of a protest vote for a small party who may get millions of votes but zero representation in parliament. bit like pools nowadays as at times both them and politics aint worth talking about as we individually cannot change anything.

The philosophy of the greens is if the U.K. goes totally green the rest of the globe will follow our example. They keep saying thousands of jobs will be created but never say what the jobs are. They might be in constructing green energy plants but once they are up and running they won’t be many jobs because of today’s technology.

Going for 4th July has got sunak off the hook on the undeliverable Rwanda project.

Apparently there are 15 countries within the EU looking to adopt the Rwanda idea.
If they do there may be no need for us to pursue it if the illegals are sent somewhere similar instead of being shooed to the French Coast.

would be interesting if any of those countries who adopt that policy do it succesfully with less cost than us and less lefty lawyers making money out of it within the same legal framework. have a feeling they actually would.

Another few £100 million squandered, I thought Sunak would have waited till his flagship scheme got of the ground or did he realise it was doomed to failure ?