I see on Facebook it’s being said Phillips has suggested part of the reason he left was he wanted to spend money and Raj had no intention of doing so

If this is genuinely what Phillips said (always take he said she said with a pinch of salt) would go against what our self appointed fans rep claimed….

Every manager in recent times has come out and criticised they cant all be wrong or pure sour grapes, phillips should thank his lucky stars leaving pools has kept his managerial career alive .

All of the reason he left is because Sarll was lined up to replace him imo. When was the last time we sacked a coach and announced a new permanent manager the same day?

If he is speaking the truth then we will have the smallest squad known to man.
So the seven to ten or so plus players we need to be competitive are coming free and playing for free.
How many times did he say he had the Chairman's backing.
Of course the doom and gloom merchants will clap their hands at this revelation.
He says he was offered a two year contract and now he's added but there's no money to spend.
Maybe, like a lot of us fans, Raj didn't like the calibre of loans he brought in and got jittery. After the Hartley fiasco anybody would get jittery.
We have to remember also that Raj has said he will keep the club ticking over until further or alternative investment turns up.
KP might have dodged a bullet but so might we.
Mr Walter Mitty Shithead will reveal all in due course as the new board gets it's collective feet under the table.
Meanwhile a new consortium is gathering at the back of the HUST shack.
I've heard that Raj is so hell bent on giving the fans what they want that the budget reflects the thoughts and wishes of the doom and gloom brigade who forecast him to be running the club into the ground.
Never mind we can look forward to resurrecting our Darlo Derby Day.
On the other hand we can wait and see what and who Mr Sarll presents us with come August. EH????

When are the fixtures out? It will be good to have something factual to cover rather than speculating for the next 2 months.

Phillips leaving over a budget.. Where have we heard that before?

Don't talk sense! KP said he didn't get a budget he wanted.. Raj out.. etc etc .. - Bit of Deja Vu here

Yes it’s an interesting one as Phillips has previous for these complaints, I suppose we will see who we end up signing, not a person on either side I would consider a reliable narrator

New consortium you say ?

Funny how he was straining at the leash before his departure…..so does that mean he was getting really excited about having no money to spend
Contradiction there.

"It's being said" - by someone on Facebook? When exactly is Kevin Phillips supposed to have said that? It certainly wasn't part of the statement he put out himself. People post made-up crap on Facebook all the time, on every subject under the sun.

Are the Club/(FANS REP) going to come out and say why KP was NOT kept on.
There has to be a reason surely?

Not bothered what KP has supposedly said.

Just would like to know the reasoning behind the clubs decision, Or the club (fans rep) could just say non of your business.

Surely the reason KP wasn't kept on is because we only need 1 manager and Sarll was the chosen one?

Technically, he had a contract till the end of the season. The other business must have been in the pipeline a while so to be realistic if they told Phillips he was not getting the job, he was hardly gonna be busting a gut at Pools I’d imagine…. so it might sound a bit rough but if it resulted in us ending up in the relegation zone we wouldn’t have been happy either.
It was an awkward situation or keep Phillips….takes your choice.

Yep, Pools kept KP fully motivated by letting him think the job was his and in turn he kept a team that really had nothing to play for after relegation was averted grinding out results till the last day of the season. I somehow doubt Lennie Lawrence is still on KP’s Xmas card list.

Don,t think LL is on his Christmas card list for certain

time and actions are going to tell more than words are ever going to do.

i too seen the post - seems a fan had bumped into KP in the boozer as such and got a photo with him. If he did have a conversation with him id imagine KP to be more the professional than tell some random pools fan why he skipped his last post. Id heard from my reliable source that indeed it was money related but DR was lined up so bit of both i think. Supposedly and ive had this back up by another member on here, is that KP was expecting a chesterfield style budget and the players he was targeting we simply couldnt afford. Raj isnt going to spend what he doesnt have nor put the club into financial ruin because of it either. both dodged a bullet a think.
anyways we will never know and its history - as ive said before DS would not be taking charge of Pools if we had 0 cash and heavily relied on youth team players and loans - even Pep couldnt work his magic with that at City or us even!

Anyone heard Ellis Taylor on a season long loan?

His contract is up in the summer i think.

This the same kid who Hartley signed after watching for 20minutes in a friendly and was embarrassingly out of his depth in men’s football?
Hope he has come on A LOT since then if we get him

As I said Phillips does have previous for that, and one of the reasons I am glad we got shot, but contradicts our self appointed fans reps so far only public statement

I think everyone has dodged a bullet here. Phillips has possibly saved his career for a while as a manager and i think we have dodged a big bullet with him. The football, the heavy loss at Gateshead, the standard of his signings, the lack of pace in his team.

But we cant keep brushing over yet another manager having a dig.

I agree with you first paragraph…… but did he actually have a ‘dig’….?

Its funny now Phillips has gone, who was the man for the job according to a lot, they now question his signings. His signings were utter shite, we are well rid, im sure even if you are digging in the bargain basements you can find better than what he did.

I like you thought he was out of his depth at the time but he was playing in an awful team at 19, moved in and out of the team at will as well as playing 3/4 different positions with very few minutes in each. On top of that there was something pretty traumatic going on in his personal life which can't have helped things. I wouldn't judge him too much on that spell.

Very good points.

You seem to forget he inherited the entire first team squad apart from Waterfall, the lack of pace was already there. And he tried to address it by playing Louis Stephenson.

The short-term loans included some crocks (Khan, Senior, Dickenson) who might have been decent if fully fit. Admittedly some of the others were rubbish, but so were the short-term loans Askey brought in. The common denominator in that is Joe Monks, who is still with us and helping Sarll with his recruitment
Anyway, you were right the other day when you said Pools only needed so many loans because they started the season with a decent first 11 and not much else.

You keep banging on about the Gateshead result but average sides in every division get badly turned over at least once a season. How they react is important - Pools won 3, drew2, lost 1.

Phillips was a poor manager who would have been exposed, though only a few of us were prepared to say that prior to him leaving

Apart from twaddle I don’t think many tears were shed here when he left

Where is Waddell anyway? Has Singh clipped his wings for his posts on here?
The only Football Club in the UK where the 'Fan's Rep' can only give out news and information to a very select few in his own WhatsApp Group. Bizarre and only at Pools under Singh.

If he was a minister caught in a hot tub with two strippers he’d claim it was a baptism that had gone wrong and stick to the story.

Badly turned over losing 7-1 is certainly up their with pretty bad. His signings were awful, he inherited a poor squad but so do most managers. The football apart from early doors was awful, dull and at times quite embarassing how we sat back at teams like woking, who were their for the taking. But he came in and served a purpose at keeping us up, im sure he will end up at a club that allows him more freedom to bring better quality in.

I think people were grateful to him for keeping him up and were prepared to give him a chance on account, so the decision came as a surprise and it surprised me, but after weighing up the pro’s and cons reality replaced sympathy and his departure and the long needed resultant clear out may be what we needed.
We fired managers with gusto, but left the ‘loyal retainers’ comfortably in place in the shadows….. sacking Captains but hanging onto the same useless crew and getting the same poor outcomes should have alerted the owner after Curle….Askey’s sudden drop in influence confirmed it in writing with bells on for me.
But on reflection, Phillips was not really the answer nor was the old guard supporting him on the bench.

Every managerial appointment is a gamble at any club. On balance Sarrl looks a better bet to take us forward.
The clear out recognises the need for a change of style, KP talked of a need for pace, Sarrl talks about physicality, fitness, and higher pressing game - so both could see what most of us could see where we were lacking.
Best of luck to KP wherever he goes.

joe monks keeps on getting a mention. his hands are also tied as he can only recommend any player who the club can really afford to sign. you get what you pay for or are able to pay for. question is will the new signings we,ll make be better than in previous seasons with the limitations the club will place on them. all i,ll say is i,ll repeat what i have heard from the stockport owner. the only way to get out of the national league that is guarenteed is being champions of it by buying your way out of it. pools at best will be in the play off lottery.

Fair point. Have to hope it's third time lucky for Sarll. Poolies know from experience that losing in the play-offs - and losing in the final worst of all - leaves a bitter taste however many high points the season had.

So was he better than Askey.
Because quite a few on here were making them out to be brilliant Deffo the right appointments.
And when they were gone they were both shite and the correct decision was made.

Surely to God its not an unwanted hat-trick with Sarl.
Hopefully this enigma ends and we back in the Efl this time next year.
UTP.

A lot depends on who Sarll can get through the door, Obvious i know.
Think the football will NOT be dull. And i would expect it to be physical.
Think Camaraderie is top of his list, And expect him to be a good man manager.
Very passionate on the touchline as we will find out, Doubt he will be taking in by some around the club.

there are so many unanswered questions, ifs and buts about every manager employed since challinor left. only askey has been allowed to have a summer recruitment from the previous season. doubt anybody could complain about some of his signings and the ones that didn,t come off were not exactly criticised by fans when we signed them. where would we have been if the injuries hadn,t happened we,d never know. then we do not know who phillips had on his radar for next season and would they have been better than the ones sarl will bring in. really doubt his lone signings would be the type he,d have brought in during the summer as i think he was limited in choice. unless sarll makes a complete hartley of the job i just hope he,ll be with us for 18 months before any new experiments sit in the managers chair. this swinging door policy isn,t helping the club and we need some stability.

Stability under Raj.
He gave Askey a 3 year contract for taking us out the league.
Then claimed he was the best manager he'd ever employed before DCs team destroyed us.

Then sacked him.
Only at Pools but he went thru a few Darlo Managers also.


But we musent forget the injuries n poor referees.
Patience is a virtue.
UTP.

What would you do then Kev…..

FFS
Not you again.
Waste of time given you my views only be anutha wordtwistery disagreement.
Sorry to disappoint ya.
Don't forget to put ya sun cream on if ya in the beer garden again

Just got Ratboy from the groomers, he’s in a foul mood, cost me £40 for a canine skinhead…….wants to kill something furry……only winding you up matey I’m past caring now

Put him under the stairs with Ruby…………………………..Er RatBoy i mean not Kevin

That’s a scary image of Kev in a negligee cornered under the stairs and Ratboy looking for , er, ‘love’. Carnage comes to mind.
Ruby is a refined thug…a snob. The Ginger Ninja. i

I think the response to Askey getting a 3 year deal was seen as a positive by most at the time? F*cking daft decision after the fact, hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it?

Even I was one of them.

Well Fergy n Fevs have signed up and Sarll is over the moon about that stating in his comments about how very good they were 3 years ago in the promotion season.
Die by the sword. Live by the sword.
New signings need to be a major improvement but the early signs looks like the usual.
Maybe KP could have the last laugh here.
But.......!

Disappointed Fev was kept on but hopefully he'll not be a regular starter. Fergy is decent when we're on the front foot but struggles when there's not any support in front of him defensively.
If Dodds and Mancini come back as good as they were we've got the beginnings of a decent team and to be fair it's not even a massive improvement that's needed to make the play offs. How many stupid points did we give away from should have been winning positions last season, and we were what 9 or 10 points shy?