i,d guess its something like life. the wrong people have money and power but many would have the ability to do a good job at pools if they had. at least they have the knowledge of what they should avoid doing.

Theres literally dozens of clubs out there where a better job is being done. You know it Derwent. What are we to do? Put up with this crap forever for fear of new ownership?[/quote]

Not disputing that but until Raj decides that an offer is to his liking what else can we do. One day you will wake up and realise he is here until HE decides to go, something that dawned on me yonks ago. No that's not me wanting Raj, backing Raj, defending Raj etc etc. It is just plain reality. Instead of whinging and having a go at fellow Poolies, why don't YOU come up with the answer cos wall to wall whinging isn't working. FFS.[/quote]

People want to discuss the way in which the club is being mishandled. You could always delete it all or scroll past it? They discuss what goes wrong on the pitch too without being able to change it or do better themselves. Whats left after you take out negative things and things beyond fans control? What colour we would like the away shirts to be next year?

Not disputing that but until Raj decides that an offer is to his liking what else can we do. One day you will wake up and realise he is here until HE decides to go, something that dawned on me yonks ago. No that's not me wanting Raj, backing Raj, defending Raj etc etc. It is just plain reality. Instead of whinging and having a go at fellow Poolies, why don't YOU come up with the answer cos wall to wall whinging isn't working. FFS.[/quote]

People want to discuss the way in which the club is being mishandled. You could always delete it all or scroll past it? They discuss what goes wrong on the pitch too without being able to change it or do better themselves. Whats left after you take out negative things and things beyond fans control? What colour we would like the away shirts to be next year?[/quote]

What if you dont like the new pink shirts next season though?

Not disputing that but until Raj decides that an offer is to his liking what else can we do. One day you will wake up and realise he is here until HE decides to go, something that dawned on me yonks ago. No that's not me wanting Raj, backing Raj, defending Raj etc etc. It is just plain reality. Instead of whinging and having a go at fellow Poolies, why don't YOU come up with the answer cos wall to wall whinging isn't working. FFS.[/quote]

People want to discuss the way in which the club is being mishandled. You could always delete it all or scroll past it? They discuss what goes wrong on the pitch too without being able to change it or do better themselves. Whats left after you take out negative things and things beyond fans control? What colour we would like the away shirts to be next year?[/quote]

I'm all for discussion and if you want to give your opinion on the colour that the away shirt should be then that's fine but I don't want to hear you say it 4367 times.
If you think the club is being manhandled then by all means tell us so but you don't need to do that every minute of every day. You don't also have to insinuate that if somebody doesn't agree with your stance of repeating your opinion ad nauseam that makes that person a Raj lover or a Raj defender.
You say I could delete it or scroll past it. I could delete it but you could also think about whether you have to say the same thing over and over again. I could also scroll past it but then I wouldn't be doing my job.
I sometimes I think you do it just to nark the pitch but I give you the benefit of the doubt.
Have you got only one song in your record collection???? LOL

I suspect that if this latest roll of the duce doesn't pay off Raj will find plenty of other saloons to visit. Suck it and see, buy him out, or give up on Pools are our only options.

People want to discuss the way in which the club is being mishandled. You could always delete it all or scroll past it? They discuss what goes wrong on the pitch too without being able to change it or do better themselves. Whats left after you take out negative things and things beyond fans control? What colour we would like the away shirts to be next year?[/quote]

What if you dont like the new pink shirts next season though?[/quote]

Well if you don't like them you can make your dislike known but please don't force me to waste my time reading it over and over again. I haven't got the luxury of choosing which posts I read. I'm waiting for you to tell us how many points Phillips accrued in his last eleven games. Any idea?????
Have a heart mate.

What if you dont like the new pink shirts next season though?[/quote]

Well if you don't like them you can make your dislike known but please don't force me to waste my time reading it over and over again. I haven't got the luxury of choosing which posts I read. I'm waiting for you to tell us how many points Phillips accrued in his last eleven games. Any idea?????
Have a heart mate.[/quote]

Well considering you didnt really believe his statement i thought you might be glad another manager has gone. No heart me im just not sure what all the gushing about phillips was to be honest, thought a lot of the football was tedious.

Actually I did believe his statement and said so but I doubted whether it was the whole picture. I was told there was more to it, as was Mr Eiphos. I'm not gushing over Phillips but I give him credit for keeping us up under circumstances that weren't favourable to him. I'm not bothered that he's gone and I wouldn't join a protest march to get him back. I'll wait and see with the new guy.

People want to discuss the way in which the club is being mishandled. You could always delete it all or scroll past it? They discuss what goes wrong on the pitch too without being able to change it or do better themselves. Whats left after you take out negative things and things beyond fans control? What colour we would like the away shirts to be next year?[/quote]

I'm all for discussion and if you want to give your opinion on the colour that the away shirt should be then that's fine but I don't want to hear you say it 4367 times.
If you think the club is being manhandled then by all means tell us so but you don't need to do that every minute of every day. You don't also have to insinuate that if somebody doesn't agree with your stance of repeating your opinion ad nauseam that makes that person a Raj lover or a Raj defender.
You say I could delete it or scroll past it. I could delete it but you could also think about whether you have to say the same thing over and over again. I could also scroll past it but then I wouldn't be doing my job.
I sometimes I think you do it just to nark the pitch but I give you the benefit of the doubt.
Have you got only one song in your record collection???? LOL[/quote]

I don't think its repetitive at all. The club seems to regularly come up with new embarrassments all the time that can be and are discussed on here. If you don't want to hear discussion about where the blame lies then ban it all, including those who believe the blame does not lie at the top.

Yellow for me. Yeeeellows! Yeeeellows!

Wrong again, I do want to hear discussions and also be a part of them but not all the time.
If people reading this forum don't know your views of the handling of Hartlepool united by now then they don't understand plain English.
People do comment and can ignore it but I have to read it. You mention deleting posts or banning them. As you know my path is persuasion and sometimes even pleading.
I think everybody knows where the buck stops or blame lies, including me but don't keep harping on about it. That is the point. You can't make your views any clearer, we get what you want to say. Someone has even said that when they see a post from you they make an attempt at writing it before they read it. The theme is that repetitive. God knows what you'll do if and when he goes. I hope he goes to another football club on the slight chance that you'll follow him.

Pools ain't up for sale so no one can buy him out.

Not even the Arabs

A lot of this is because some have backed certain people to the hilt, will not hear criticisms of him and have twisted every scenario to make it so its not his fault or anything to do with him. But at times now things have got that daft, some fan representation to now add blame to some other people, the treatment of Phillips, the standard of the team, even the biggest non critics can see the mess we are in, so without changing stance they just dont want to listen to it, its now boring. Yet if we want to criticise Featherstone every post for the last 10 years then thats ok.

Yes hard to buy something when the guy selling doesnt really wanna sell.

There's only the other 2 options then really isn't there, dunno about you but I won't be giving up so actually it's just suck it and see really.

Messrs Billy and Imp
I have replied to your two posts higher up by adding an edit as embedding had exceeded allowance.

Billy you should no by now criticism n ambition will result in a few warnings then a life sentence in Holme House.

First of all there is nothing wrong with criticism but personally I prefer it to be constructive where possible.

Yes Featherstone has probably been criticised more than other players but the fact that he has been here ten years it is not surprising. But every post???????
Edit.......he has got a fair amount of praise as well.

Can you point to anyone on here who has criticised Featherstone in the same manner and quantity as you have criticised Raj????? Two would be better and three fantastic.

A list of the some people who have backed Raj to the hilt please.

There is a long list of people who have refrained from attacking Raj in anywhere near the volume you do but because they don't drone on about Raj the way you do, your automatic deduction is that they back him to the hilt. They don't.

Some people see futility in bashing their head against a brick wall.
Perhaps you've got one that it doesn't affect.

If you think there is any substantial group on here who would lament Raj leaving the club then, when he does, you are in for a big shock. In fact to find half a dozen would keep you occupied for some time. Perhaps we should assign that task to you.

You'll also be amazed at the list of volunteers to lead the cheering.

Of course Kev.
The list of weekly warnings is already reached 100 for this week alone.
Seventeen have got life sentences.
And here's some breaking news, there is a crucial vote in June that could abolish life sentences and replace them with scrotum removal prior to shooting with shit and eventual hanging no less.
It will only be a trial period taking place of the next 25 years to decide whether it's tough enough. No one else knows this yet, kev, so keep it to yourself.

KP did all that could have been expected and probably expected a contract with a rise. My guess is he was offered a derisory deal by Raj Singh.

Why did Raj Singh buy HUFC? Was it because he was a big fan of the club?
Of course not, he is a businessman with the objective of MAKING money, not shelling out!

I appreciate your sentiment. Apply it evenly, regardless of which side of the argument a poster comes from and I guarantee cooperation.

No argument from me on that score, Although at least 2 of that team decided pools was not for them.
Manager also had an awful lot to do with that.

Not disputing that but until Raj decides that an offer is to his liking what else can we do. One day you will wake up and realise he is here until HE decides to go, something that dawned on me yonks ago. No that's not me wanting Raj, backing Raj, defending Raj etc etc. It is just plain reality. Instead of whinging and having a go at fellow Poolies, why don't YOU come up with the answer cos wall to wall whinging isn't working. FFS.[/quote]

People want to discuss the way in which the club is being mishandled. You could always delete it all or scroll past it? They discuss what goes wrong on the pitch too without being able to change it or do better themselves. Whats left after you take out negative things and things beyond fans control? What colour we would like the away shirts to be next year?[/quote]

Don,t think Derwent has a fear of new ownership, More like a fear of NO ownership like more of us.
Its not a foregone conclusion that pools are safe from extinction.

I’ve just wondered about the title for this topic…’Last Chance for Raj.’
Who’s gonna enforce it?
Surely it should have been ‘Last Chance for Raj if it takes his fancy’…?

Making money out of pools,

Well it won't be fun for him sitting alone in a ground that holds 7,800

By all means. Point out to me anyone who has attacked any person at the club with the same vigour and relentless passion as you have applied to Raj and I promise I'll give it my full attention. Absolutely.

Aye that made me laugh.

I was only joking about ya becoming a Judge

You’re going soft Mr D…..where do I send the Guillotine back to…wonder if a sausage shop would be interested

Only Raj himself can enforce it. Or maybe he might submit to pressure from his family who question the sanity of propping up a football club or the onset of health problems causing the medics to advise it.
I don't think he'll starve if season ticket sales take a hammering, he'll just adjust the budget to match the revenue. He would have been presented that excuse by the fans reducing their financial commitment.
I might be wrong cos I don't know the guy but I get the impression that's it's a case of you bash me and I'll bash you back.
If he gets a whiff of fans intending to " hit him in the pocket where it hurts" he might put the recruitment budget on the back burner until the season ticket sales are counted.
We need a different approach.

Don't worry Kev, I wouldn't put on the black cap if you turned up.

Keep it in the shed Snowy, I'm formulating a new strategy.

Not really fair that is it. There's only one HUFC and only one owner. Not my fault the blame can't be shared with a co-owner. It's also not my fault that there are people who can see him do no wrong, despite obvious signs under their noses.

Vigour and relentlessness? I'll remind you of the folly and embarrassment of those on here who vigorously and relentlessly denounced those that were deeply concerned about the goings on at the clun during and in the build up to the Hartley season. There were no calls for that barrage to cease.

Only Raj himself can enforce it. Or maybe he might submit to pressure from his family who question the sanity of propping up a football club or the onset of health problems causing the medics to advise it.
I don't think he'll starve if season ticket sales take a hammering, he'll just adjust the budget to match the revenue. He would have been presented that excuse by the fans reducing their financial commitment.
I might be wrong cos I don't know the guy but I get the impression that's it's a case of you bash me and I'll bash you back.
If he gets a whiff of fans intending to " hit him in the pocket where it hurts" he might put the recruitment budget on the back burner until the season ticket sales are counted.
We need a different

It's really simple from Rajs point of view if he is serious. He needs to sign a couple of good players in May ( I know contracts run until end of June but players can still sign agreements ) to keep season tickets up. Then add more good players in June that will bring in more ticket buyers and probably beat last year's total. I think a change of date from end of May till middle of June for ( early bird ) season tickets sales would vastly improve the amounts sold.

It's always about opinions simples

Two wrongs don't make a right, I agree about your reference to the hartley era but there's nothing I can do about that now but lessons have been learned. Look you can't seem to grasp that people are generally on your side but don't want the same theme week in and week out. Its been going on for two years or more now, the hartley episode was over in a flash compared with that. I would also remind you that all people were saying was give him a chance, probably more in hope than anything else.
The same will happen again if current recruitment matches that of hartley......heaven forbid.

Okay. Fair one.

I mean is it really still on the table? Raj i think ran them off and isnt looking to sell at all. We have someone apparently with ties to the town ready to invest 14 mill, another one who runs a top level international academy and other people in and around the town with businesses and connections but none of it matters if Raj wants to keep us. He is in charge until he isnt

The retained list looks like a cost cutting exercise. Callum Cooke and Crawford aren't perfect but can play at this level and i would guess they were offered terms to stay but reduced and said no. Expect a few out of contract payers to join to fill spaces but i dont see a promotion push next year. That would cost a lot more money we dont have. People saying theyre not getting a ticket for next year just means we have even less money and more debt over time making it even less likely this ends unless Raj cuts his losses and sells for a price that makes sense to a buyer or we go to administration and hope some of these people interested are still there.

For me it doesn't matter. Its my club whether its shit or not

I find it hard to believe that Raj is making money out of pools

I wudent rule it out.
How many other clubs would get 4000 fans to watch the dog n duck of division 5.
Maybe the fantasy of millhouse masterplan n ground ownership is on the menu.

I reckon the only people who make money out of football are the FA, the media and the Premiership.

that is true and some of those losses in the premier league are mind blowing.

every single thing in football and clubs themselves are for sale to any bidder who is prepared to throw silly money at it. even in our lives we,ll have something thats not of a sentimental value that we,d sell if the right offer came along. know now if i buy a car i wanted today i,d sell it on my way home if i made a profit out of the transaction. with pools i fear raj wants more than the club is actually worth.

He might have done if he hadn’t squandered it in pay offs to his wrong managerial appointments.