Sarll has to pan out for him doesn't he? The fans will turn very very quickly this season if we start off badly, binning off a well liked bloke who made the best of having a thread bare squad.

Absolutely spot on GM Worst of all the pressure will build a hell of a lot quicker if we start bad. New managers need time and always get that at Pools, but I'm afraid this time it will not be the case. Raj has basically put him out to dry or put his last chip on one number in total hope.

He has an easy way out sell to the consortium who have left their offer on the table and wallk away you have never kept your promises to the supporters or the managers and staff in the club.

You're assuming that he is concerned or even will be but what if he isn't. What if he takes the I'll show them" attitude. What if he says "I'll invest the revenue the club takes in " meaning low season ticket sales means low team investment.
He can do exactly what he wants to do.
He could string this on for years whilst we slowly disappear into oblivion.
I don't want any of this to happen and my stance is if he doesn't want to take the club forward he should allow others to have a go but threatening him in any way shape or form will only get his back up and we are witnessing that.
If people want to continue along the road of attacking the guy then fine, carry on but you've got to be prepared to take the consequences which will be the slow death of the club. Unless of course someone can emerge who will make him an offer he can't refuse and as he is still here that doesn't appear to be likely. But hey don't take any notice to me if what I say doesn't meet with your agreement. After all it is only my opinion.
We have the giant wave of ambition currently crashing on the very hard rock of reality.

I appreciate your point of view. It comes from a love of the club. I'm glad you think the club is better off without him too.

It is evident that Raj wants the club to be successful albeit within certain boundaries. If he wasnt bothered one way or another he would have let KP continue but he has clearly been advised Sarll will be a better manager and has made a tough (many would say ruthless) decision which no doubt he would argue is in the best interest of the club in the long run. If Sarll does not meet expectations there will be some serious invective flying around but at the end of the day, he is the owner and can do as he pleases.

I am glad you appreciate my point of view and yes I do love the club.

BUT

The club is only better off without him if the successor to him does a better job. If that doesn't happen.......................

It wouldn't take much.

He’ll get sick eventually if his chairmanship fails again, I suspect he has a point to prove and the ruthlessness displayed in appointing Sarll is a sign he ‘s out to prove that point (and while Phillips was popular, he wasn’t gonna be the one to get us promoted) this could be his last throw of the dice because even he would rather leave on a high than walk away a failure.
We live in interesting times.

Better the devil you know.. TMH.. Coxhall.. Goldberg?

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we certainly do especially if it looks as if by the new signings money has been found and made available to sarll that philips might never hve got his hand on. if we have a good season it will all be forgotton about and we,ll never see his name. if it goes the opposite way he,d better get his skin hardened as he,ll certainly be getting stick even from those who wanted philipps gone.

Probably not so why is there not a clamour from people wanting to take over and make a name for themselves. There's enough on here who could do a better job or so they think. Present company included.

In the ideal world KP would get a consortium together to buy the Club from Raj and when all is agreed and the contract is drawn up and ready to sign, go to his office and "TEAR IT UP" in Raj's face and say;

"THE LAST LAUGH IS ON ME YOU BASTARD" ha ha ha

Positive thinking i like it

Only problem with that is….I really don’t believe had the nous to get us promoted.

Am struggling with this KP worship, he did nothing special and presided over the worst result we had in 30’years

For me he was an empty suit and am glad we got shot though I wish it had been done jn a more transparent way
His rep as a player may get him a job somewhere else with a big budget but expect
He will be found out soon enough wherever he shows up

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Probably not so why is there not a clamour from people wanting to take over and make a name for themselves. There's enough on here who could do a better job or so they think. Present company included. [/quote]

Theres literally dozens of clubs out there where a better job is being done. You know it Derwent. What are we to do? Put up with this crap forever for fear of new ownership?

how many last chance saloons has he to visit. how many fans of other clubs we play at present and in the past think we are a basket case club. why cannot we find somebody with real money and ambition to push the club forward. there are clubs where a few years ago you,d have to google their name to find out their history who have achieved this. what next a rich businessman rocking up at workington to revive their fortunes to have a proper cumbrian derby with carlisle. lots of these people are not born and bred in the town they bankrolled and there are 4k deserving cases rocking up at the vic instead of 400 at the most before the money rolled in.

Probably not so why is there not a clamour from people wanting to take over and make a name for themselves. There's enough on here who could do a better job or so they think. Present company included. [/quote]

Theres literally dozens of clubs out there where a better job is being done. You know it Derwent. What are we to do? Put up with this crap forever for fear of new ownership?[/quote]

Not disputing that but until Raj decides that an offer is to his liking what else can we do. One day you will wake up and realise he is here until HE decides to go, something that dawned on me yonks ago. No that's not me wanting Raj, backing Raj, defending Raj etc etc. It is just plain reality. Instead of whinging and having a go at fellow Poolies, why don't YOU come up with the answer cos wall to wall whinging isn't working. FFS.

If Sarll doesnt work he will just get another one. Managers are expendable.

10 managers in 6 years - Raj still has a way to go to catch up with Gino Pozzo at Watford, he's had 14!

Not that all the chopping and changing is working for Watford either...

I suspect he’s the first manager appointed by pressure from within.
Phillip’s would have been a trouble free appointment from his position.. but I suspect the retained list would have been a lot different, not necessarily for the better.
Again I never saw Phillips as the answer, but the tactics had more the flavour of a WW1 General in the static tactics and lack of variety in tactics, there was only ever one blueprint when it came to the tactics and responses.

think the players what he had at his disposal caused him to foist his tactics on us. he seemed to realise that the lack of goals conceeded were his strong point and knew we had a goal in the side up top. it was boring but at least it did bring in better results than previously. if he had a better mid field at his disposal his tactics might have been much different. thing is we,ll never know now.

Or we could all keep our mouths shut, he thinks everything is going fine as we slip through the leagues while he keeps taking chunks back of what he believes he is owed. He is going to get hit in the pocket this year with season ticket sales but i cant see him going anywhere till this final football league payment has come in.

I still think we will get decent attendances, social media is only a very small portion of fans.. I'll be getting season ticket, its cost effective for me and gives me the saturday fix

Agreed, but there are some things we will know in the fullness of time. Will Sarll be a success at Pools? He'll be heading for the chop before Christmas if he's not.

Doubt season tcks will be lower, Or even fall at all.
To people who buy season tcks its not the be all and end all winning the league.

Not sure Accy, Seems SShields fans thought that was his tactics there.

Im not sure social media is a tiny proportion anymore, a lot will depend on signings though. Sign well established quality that have actaully played games in the last 3 years and crowds wont be too bad, keep trying to sign lads that have mustered 15 games in the last 5 years that cant get a game for a spennymoor and well crowds will start to dip big time.

I somehow doubt that the vast majority of South Shields fans were unhappy about winning promotion from the NPL as champions. Hacked off that KP didn't stick around to manage them in the NLN, maybe.

Lets be brutally honest he should of won the league they were getting signings like liddle for games against burscough and whitby. Team was packed full of quality.

The key is controlling what comes out of your mouth and the frequency of it. We've had hatred, abuse and now the threat of "hitting him where it hurts". All very antagonistic and confrontational.
When he turns round and says the budget is geared to revenue and we can only spend what we earn, then what. A bit too much tit for tat in my eyes. Don't think for one moment that he won't follow that line. All he has to say is why should he invest his money when the fans won't invest theirs.
All he has promised since he allegedly put the club up for sale is he will keep the club ticking over. Being sustainable in the wearside league is ticking over. No one wants that.
We have to find a better way before we are faced with no way.
At the moment we are trying to plait fog.
But Hey you keep carrying on attacking him and others can withdraw their financial support and we'll see where it gets us.
There has got to be a coming together in minds because we can only go forward together as Sweeney said post Dorking.
That's what I want to see.
Fuelling our differences will continue the slide.
But what do I know.

When have you heard or seen hatred to raj? Remember he blamed fans at darlo too, bit of a history for the blame game has raj, be the new board next on the hit listAttacking him you mean not agreeing with his many ludicrous decisions? We can all sit their and pretend things are great and we can see where that takes us, i hazard a
guess it wont even be in this league. Can you imagine if raj owned a leeds utd or even a Carlisle, if you think he is receiving hatred now.

plus some seem to attend games less than i do by all accounts. only one team can win the league anyway and if thats their only interest or expectation we,d hardly sell any. my interest in watching is just seeing a good game with a pools win and class promotion as just the cherry on top of the cake. we,ll be in the company of more clubs if we do not gain it. as it turned out for barnet this season i think their fans will at this moment of time be more dissapointed than we are where their 46 matches have ment for nothing.

We dont have to win the league to get good crowds, we have to show a tiny little ambition for it, no one is asking for much, not even most supporters, we are asking to be given a chance of it. Lets remember though we are not trying to win league division 4 now, we are trying to beat the solihull moors of this world, its not asking much to be able to comoete with them.

only time any owner gets a free ride is when their side is doing well and winning something. fans are so remote from most and have more feeling for players and even managers. even players are not keen as they are not really for them part of the game and what they know is second hand via managers and others in the game. unless the game has changed i,d guess pools players will be taking the piss behind his back.

Any sensible person owning a club would run it in a sustainable manner.

For the sake of a clubs existence it should NEVER over spend.
And if that means playing at a lower level, Then so be it.
Who in their right minds would put a clubs future at risk.

Solihull are a very good side, imo

Yes they are but we had a better side playing against Torquay that day. Its not impossible, onky took a tiny bit of ambition.

think we have ambition the same as about 16 others have for promotion at the outset where the others ambition is just staying in the league. its how a season pans out, sometimes like the last with those injuries we got, where ambitions change if you cannot finance like for like replacements. unless we can do a wrexham and buy ourselves out of the league nothing is nailed on no matter what we or the club will say.

Thing is their are no Wrexhams in this league or Stockports, notts countys or chesterfields. One day other teams will replace them, but this league has never been so weak.

There are none now…this is a clean sheet.

Yeah happens at every club you would think the way derwent is goung on, he was afraid to come out of his house, ive seen raj frequently at pools not a murmur towards him. Few songs at the crawley game but apart from that as chairmans go had a pretty easy ride.

they might be and have expectations also for next season if promoted. however i,d imagine their ambitions will be different from the clubs who miss out in the league 2 play offs and one or two of the relegated sides anyway. as for pools we might have an insight on where their ambitions lye when we see the full squad for next season. no matter what statements come out of the club we,ll make our own minds where the ambition will lie.

Of course as we know season tickets will be going up for sale shortly, proof in the pudding is the quality of players we bring in.

do not think its week but more of a much of a muchness where recruitment will be the key to success and not about size of the budgets but those budgets being used more wisely.

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they might be and have expectations also for next season if promoted. however i,d imagine their ambitions will be different from the clubs who miss out in the league 2 play offs and one or two of the relegated sides anyway. as for pools we might have an insight on where their ambitions lye when we see the full squad for next season. no matter what statements come out of the club we,ll make our own minds where the ambition will lie.[/quote]

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and even then we,ll not know till we see em play what sort of quality they actually are. can hear it now if we dare sign a player from leagues below he,ll be written off but expectations will go through the roof if we sign name players from a league above.

Last chance saloon for Pools I would say, Singh has nothing to lose, does he have a conscience I doubt it, no skin off his nose if Pools went under, he hasn’t lost nought.

Unless someone has the money and knowledge to run a football club this conversation is pointless

they might be and have expectations also for next season if promoted. however i,d imagine their ambitions will be different from the clubs who miss out in the league 2 play offs and one or two of the relegated sides anyway. as for pools we might have an insight on where their ambitions lye when we see the full squad for next season. no matter what statements come out of the club we,ll make our own minds where the ambition will lie.[/quote]

Of course as we know season tickets will be going up for sale shortly, proof in the pudding is the quality of players we bring in.[/quote]
and even then we,ll not know till we see em play what sort of quality they actually are. can hear it now if we dare sign a player from leagues below he,ll be written off but expectations will go through the roof if we sign name players from a league above.[/quote]

No problem with signing lads from leagues below its when you start bringing in loads of them, yet still expect miracles, hartley thought bringing in championship standard scottish players could work and found out that league wasnt strong enough for the english leagues.