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 Post subject: Re: Maidenhead predictions
PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:19 pm 
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Can remember Cloughie regularly took academy players to European away games just to give them the experience of being part of the squad, no intention of playing them.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:23 pm 
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fckpoolie wrote:
At one point (not that long ago) we were all seriously contemplating being in the NL North next season. Before Askey got the push we were on a horrible downward spiral. I don't think that KP is the next Pep but he has kept us in this league -and given our squad/injuries at the moment that wasn't a sure thing when he took over. We're a shambles of a team right now. We've been scraping the barrel since that Scottish twat cleared out what we had and signed shite for two years. Well the two years are up soon, it's time for a new clear out and I'm hoping that KP (and Ronnie) get a team together to give us some hope in the 24/25 season.


I agree completely. I do not believe that Pep and Cloughie working together could have taken over when KP did and got this squad into the playoffs!
So why sack KP for doing the best we could hope for, namely mid table safety?
If we are still in a similar mid table position by the end of 2024 then show him the door by all means, but give the guy a decent chance before condemning him.

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 Post subject: Re: Maidenhead predictions
PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:24 pm 
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
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Couldn’t see the point of taking 3 youth players on a long trip then only giving one a few minutes not unless Pools didn’t have any other players available to sit on the bench ?

Apparently it’s the done thing to get them to feel part of the squad, not necessarily about game time, it makes them feel included and is good for their confidence to experience.
A lot of teams do it. Any time on the pitch is a taster.


I can agree Snowy but a 12 hour round coach trip and probably not getting back until
early morning isn’t much of an experience more so only one of them got on the field for a couple of minutes, ok if was only a couple of hours away.or a Saturday game.

Jamie, if they have ambitions of becoming professional footballers, they’d better get used to it.
Come on if it was you or me we’d have loved it, they’re tougher than you think.


But surely it’s disheartening travelling all that way and not getting mud on their boots ?


No more disheartening that the gallant souls who travelled to watch those who did get mud on their boots. At least the juniors travelled free. Character building is part of their education.

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 Post subject: Re: Maidenhead predictions
PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:46 pm 
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Snowy wrote:
A deflected goal and Featherstone’s stupid cross field pass into of the simple pressure free pass to a waiting Jameson cost us last night, simple as that.
As for Mani, he was putting himself about as usual but our midfield or more fittingly midlife crisis field supplied nothing of substance .
Our midfield lacks legs, power, speed and creativity, they are pedestrian, our Achille’s Heel and till we re build it …..we’re stuck in a rut.
A new midfield, a forward of ability and full backs is our basic requirement.


Don't forget new players who actually give 100% effort every game.
It's only 90 mins
Youngish athletes in part time employment.
Because last nite the effort n work ethic was way below par.
Maidenhead weren't much technically better than us but they worked there bollocks off and wanted the 3 pts a lot more than us. :angry-tappingfoot:


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:47 pm 
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Going back to travelling by train as KP said in his interview.I am at a loss to see the advantage, yes if Pools were playing in central London, considering they have to change stations to get the train to Maidenhead, there are no direct trains from Kings Cross to Maidenhead. Time wise there is no difference going by coach or train, at least with coach you can get off and stretch your legs.
No I am not going to get in touch with the club as to why or Google it.


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The service into Mani has been non existant of late, he thrives on the ball being put into the box but you need out and out wide players supplying him or at least players willing to get the ball in the box instead of turning around and going backwards.


Surely that's down to KP to tell the players to put the crosses into the box from about level with the penalty area.
Go back to 4 4 2 with 2 proper wingers.
Instead of this crab football which results in trying to get past about 7 players on the penalty area.

He has mentioned more pace needed for next season so just could be on the same basic sensible wavelength as me. :clap: :lol:


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Because of lack of mobility and pace in midfield we have been playing 5 in there. Hopefully we'll be shot of most of them come the end of June.


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 Post subject: Re: Maidenhead predictions
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[quote="Jamie1952"]Going back to travelling by train as KP said in his interview.I am at a loss to see the advantage, yes if Pools were playing in central London, considering they have to change stations to get the train to Maidenhead, there are no direct trains from Kings Cross to Maidenhead. Time wise there is no difference going by coach or train, at least with coach you can get off and stretch your legs.
No I am not going to get in touch with the club as to why or Google it.[/quote

Well Jamie unless someone on here can help you, which hasn't happened so far, coupled with your choice of ruling out asking the club, I don't think you are going to get a satisfactory conclusion. If you do find the answer please let us in on it.

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derwent wrote:
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Going back to travelling by train as KP said in his interview.I am at a loss to see the advantage, yes if Pools were playing in central London, considering they have to change stations to get the train to Maidenhead, there are no direct trains from Kings Cross to Maidenhead. Time wise there is no difference going by coach or train, at least with coach you can get off and stretch your legs.
No I am not going to get in touch with the club as to why or Google it.[/quote

Well Jamie unless someone on here can help you, which hasn't happened so far, coupled with your choice of ruling out asking the club, I don't think you are going to get a satisfactory conclusion. If you do find the answer please let us in on it.


I hear what you are saying Derwent, it was just Phillips made a point of saying in his interview they travelled down on the train as if it was advantageous, with the result it didn’t appear to make any difference ?


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Couldn’t see the point of taking 3 youth players on a long trip then only giving one a few minutes not unless Pools didn’t have any other players available to sit on the bench ?

Apparently it’s the done thing to get them to feel part of the squad, not necessarily about game time, it makes them feel included and is good for their confidence to experience.
A lot of teams do it. Any time on the pitch is a taster.


I can agree Snowy but a 12 hour round coach trip and probably not getting back until
early morning isn’t much of an experience more so only one of them got on the field for a couple of minutes, ok if was only a couple of hours away.or a Saturday game.

Jamie, if they have ambitions of becoming professional footballers, they’d better get used to it.
Come on if it was you or me we’d have loved it, they’re tougher than you think.


But surely it’s disheartening travelling all that way and not getting mud on their boots ?

No, they are getting the experience of participating with the big lads, I loved it doing it when training and finally getting the chance to be alongside those I was aspiring to be one of…….you pick things up on just being there, I learnt a lot by just being there with my mouth well and truly shut …..because at that age I had nothing to offer and was there just to learn about how you work with people by listening.
Whether we got covered in shite was neither here nor there at the time, good old practical experience.

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 Post subject: Re: Maidenhead predictions
PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:25 am 
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
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Don't forget new players who actually give 100% effort every game.
It's only 90 mins
Youngish athletes in part time employment.
Because last nite the effort n work ethic was way below par.
Maidenhead weren't much technically better than us but they worked there bollocks off and wanted the 3 pts a lot more than us. :angry-tappingfoot:

yes, working your bollocks off is the bare minimum most of us expect every game from the players. can take a defeat if they at least match the opposition in this. never say die should be replaced by never break sweat.


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 Post subject: Re: Maidenhead predictions
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Not for the first time Phillips said in his post match interview said the players weren’t fit enough, surely he has been there long enough to sort it the training regime out ?


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As i was walking to the ground on tuesday there was a coach parked up with Hartlepool FC marked up.
If i remember correctly it was a coach company from Harrogate.


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I seem to remember we have an agreement to borrow Harrogate FC's coach. I guess we share the running costs. Or I may have misremembered but there will be someone on here who will know.


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 Post subject: Re: Maidenhead predictions
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Not for the first time Phillips said in his post match interview said the players weren’t fit enough, surely he has been there long enough to sort it the training regime out ?


It’s just another ‘it’s not my fault’ excuse….expect the blame shifting to run out about October next year and evolve into ‘I’m a fighter not a quitter’
Shite as he tries to buy himself another month


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Not for the first time Phillips said in his post match interview said the players weren’t fit enough, surely he has been there long enough to sort it the training regime out ?


Pools have played 2 games a week most weeks since Phillips came in. It's a routine of play, recover, prepare, play.

On the other hand I'm not sure the implied criticism of the Askey regime is entirely fair. Pools seemed to have a decent pre-season and into the early autumn were outlasting opponents and scoring late goals. It went stale when the results headed south - well before KP came in.

Think the lack of pace in the squad adds to the impression of looking leaden footed. Only Grey and Stephenson (since he came in) are reasonably quick - the rest are cart horses in comparison.


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Flying Hogans wrote:
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Not for the first time Phillips said in his post match interview said the players weren’t fit enough, surely he has been there long enough to sort it the training regime out ?


Pools have played 2 games a week most weeks since Phillips came in. It's a routine of play, recover, prepare, play.

On the other hand I'm not sure the implied criticism of the Askey regime is entirely fair. Pools seemed to have a decent pre-season and into the early autumn were outlasting opponents and scoring late goals. It went stale when the results headed south - well before KP came in.

Think the lack of pace in the squad adds to the impression of looking leaden footed. Only Grey and Stephenson (since he came in) are reasonably quick - the rest are cart horses in comparison.

Aye, if you expect sports car performance from the Ford Transits in midfield in particular, don’t expect to win the race…..not all players are fast off the mark.

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i loved Bob Newton wrote:
As i was walking to the ground on tuesday there was a coach parked up with Hartlepool FC marked up.
If i remember correctly it was a coach company from Harrogate.


Pools got the train down, lashing out the cash sending the coach down empty albeit with kit ?


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Jamie1952 wrote:
i loved Bob Newton wrote:
As i was walking to the ground on tuesday there was a coach parked up with Hartlepool FC marked up.
If i remember correctly it was a coach company from Harrogate.


Pools got the train down, lashing out the cash sending the coach down empty albeit with kit ?

I passed that coach about 9.45, an Harrogate Company, wonder if the players were meeting up at say York, but now you mention it, getting the kit down would be a problem unless it travels down separately….in the team Transit. :laugh:

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KP was slating the players on the radio after they were looked after very well regarding the luxury travel arrangements.
Not we safe KP show some ruthlessness and set down a marker now to go into next season that you ain't Gunna carry or sign any passengers.

It's his team now.
Zero excuses now not even injury ones as Dodds n Mancini should be raring to destroy this piss poor division with the help of plenty of proper signings.

I reiterate All out of contracters must vacate this current holiday camp joke shop current set up.

Do the right thing KP you've got the perfect opportunity especially when the top man never says no to you.

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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
KP was slating the players on the radio after they were looked after very well regarding the luxury travel arrangements.
Not we safe KP show some ruthlessness and set down a marker now to go into next season that you ain't Gunna carry or sign any passengers.

It's his team now.
Zero excuses now not even injury ones as Dodds n Mancini should be raring to destroy this piss poor division with the help of plenty of proper signings.

I reiterate All out of contracters must vacate this current holiday camp joke shop current set up.

Do the right thing KP you've got the perfect opportunity especially when the top man never says no to you.

UTP.

Or maybe daren’t say no. :wink:

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Snowy wrote:
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Think the lack of pace in the squad adds to the impression of looking leaden footed. Only Grey and Stephenson (since he came in) are reasonably quick - the rest are cart horses in comparison.

Aye, if you expect sports car performance from the Ford Transits in midfield in particular, don’t expect to win the race…..not all players are fast off the mark.[/quote]
but it helps a long way for them if they were and could do it for about 20 yards. totally pointless for players who could win a 3 mile race but would come last over 20 yards. do not want to start the haters off but featherstone looked as if he was walking through a paddy field on tuesday night or he was carrying a knock.


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