Surely must be forthcoming following last nights pathetic performance? His first team coach, coaching staff and virtually all of the first team squad have embarrassed the club, the fans, the town and Mr Singh too of course. To avoid making any comments would fuel the perception that Mr Singh has al but given up on the club.

could actually do more harm than good if he says one single word someone doe not agree with and cause even more division when the wounds are so raw. surely everyone knows last night was a complete shambles and nothing he says will make fans happy. understating the game or the complete opposite is ignoring the situation or seen as kicking a dog when its down. just leave it all behind closed doors for the time being.

Good idea.
Maybe we get some kind of podium type thing out and plant it in the middle of the Vic.
Then Mr Singh can come out and give a statement to the press.....a bit like Sunak did at 10 Downing Street recently.
Likely to be some hecklers with loudhailers no doubt outside the ground trying to drown him out as he speaks
Yeah...just what we need.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro6pR7m8Qxc

What could he say????
If he said every positive possible he would get accused of just saying it to sell season tickets.
If he said he is backing the manager, something which the manager has said ad nauseam that he actually is doing, he would be ridiculed.
If he said he wants to sell but not to any old charlaton that knocked on the door, he would be accused of stalling to get the parachute payment.
If he said right you all want me out so I'm going now leaving the club in God knows what mess, someone would be looking for a rope to hang him with.
I am struggling to suggest what he could say that was acceptable to the fans.

Unless it's "I have agreed to sell Hartlepool United"

he needs to tell the fans he has loads of cash and is willing to spend a shit tonne of money so we can once again get out of this league.

words... just words.. as always with nothing behind them... history repeating itself. mean feck all and nothing will happen if he did such a thing

He maybe doesn't have a shitload of cash he is willing or able to spend on our football club though. And unfortunately nobody else has said they have.
Nobody was asking for statements when we had our best start to a season for years so why now? We're all angry but to be honest I don't want to hear any reaction from the chairman I want to see a huge reaction on the pitch on Friday. Heart and effort will do for starters.

Errrr yes they have.

The consortium never said they had shitloads of cash. They said they had access to 14 million or so, was that going to be a gift or another load of debt to take us closer to the financial abyss?

You are the king of false hope and probably the owners top 3 fan club.
Enjoy more failure if no new ownership.

And it's a 46 game season not first 7.
I can't see Bunker wordage having any bearing on our future results.

Just a hardened realist and definitely not a fan of Raj.
Why would the chairman make a statement because we got a thrashing? Never seen it at any club in nigh on 60 years of being a football fan. That's what the manager is paid to do and like what he said or not he did it.
I'd rather the players showed the passion and fight in the next game than listen to any weasel words from Raj wouldn't you?

Some people have a vivid fascination with Raj, his mindset and love to pretend to have secret insight into his motives. To me he is just another owner who will never be a fan or have the distinct classification of Poolie. I have no power over who owns the club so never harbour any expectations. Hopes yes but that's as far as it goes. Owners, managers and players come and they go, fans stay forever, even the whingers.

I think people talk about Raj a lot on here because he owns Pools, they're Pools fans and the club is going to rat shit under his watch.

They were people with connections to the town, brought together by fellow pools fans in order to replace a guy presiding over the worst failures the clubs history who said he wanted someone to buy him out or he would pull the plug on funding the club. Definitely not better the devil you know. Bird

From what I hear the club is not looking after the players in terms of their contracts or salaries. Players being made offers which do not match with their contracts. They leave and then come back when they get what they had been promised. Any manager would struggle. It's as if the players have shown KP what they are capable of if they are looked after contractually. But they are not and so they revert back to a lack of effort. A pattern forms. I thank Raj for saving us I really do, and for the promotion. A great day. But we will not achieve anything else whilst he owns the club. He's like a stubborn mule high on the notoriety of owning a football club until he gets bored. Ah well. We soldier on.

Sums it up nicely.

yes, they talk obviously about him but have zero knowledge of what he does, has done or what his financial capabilities actually are. its all purely guess work if you are pro or against the bloke. just never understand why is name is brought up after a bad defeat as if he picks the side and decides himself the tactics to use. his name was not mentioned much at the start of the season.

Exactly, let's see a statement by way of performance on the pitch tomorrow.

What he does is less important, what achieves is most important and it is massively evident. Why wouldn't people get more angry during times when the symptoms of the neglect the club has been under manifest themselves the most? It is human nature. It doesn't take anything away from the simmering anger that lies in the fan base.

really whats the point of getting angry and slagging somebody off when you can never see or meet the bloke and can do sod all about it. he is not the chairman of the club i want like many others but losing your rag about him aint going to change it. he,ll go when he wants to and all the ranting about him could make him stay longer if he has that type of a personality. better to treat him with some kind of contempt by never speaking his name and ignore him if you manage to see him. lots of owners like seeing their name in print on their ego trip and no publicity is better than good or bad for people you are not keen on.

We all get angry about something or other during the course of our lives but very rarely make a crusade out of it. If I get angry about anything I weigh it up and decide which options are available to me and how can I deal with it. With my football club I have long realised that my only recourse is to walk away but I don't want to do that as it is a part of my life and in my life I know that I am going to have ups and downs, trials and tribulations, happy times and sad times. Picking on somebody through frustration or anger or hate on an obsessional basis doesn't appeal to me and I'm grateful for that part of my nature and actually feel sorry for people who let it take over their rational.
The worst occasion in my life was when my newly born daughter lived for a short period of 23 days. I spent every waking minute possible next to her holding her hand. That could have destroyed me but she somehow communicated to me that it shouldn't be like that. After that experience I can handle anything that is thrown at me and she has given me the strength to be able to do that. She is always in my thoughts and I regularly ask her advice and guidance. This might sound daft to some people but if there is anything worse than standing there as your baby daughter is lowered into the ground then I have yet to come across it. I wouldn't wish that on anybody but it has given me the ability to put everything into perspective.

To me it’s like a toddler with a Ming vase, hope it doesn’t break it …...please put it down gently while it’s still intact.

The Ming vase was cracked ...and nearly broken beyond repair.
Mr Singh stuck it back together again and put it back on the shelf.
No one else was interested in making a repair because of the cost involved.
No one else.
So thank you so very much Mr Singh ...for repairing our Ming.
Did I ever tell you you're my hero?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iAzMRKFX3c

If that was true the PFA and the league would be all over pool's for this

Yes I'm sure if they weren't getting what they're contracted to get it would be in the public domain.
What could be happening though is that new contract talks are ongoing and some may have been offered reduced terms for next season and so the dummies are out?

You need to read my post properly. I didn't say that they weren't getting what they were contracted to get. It's nothing to do with the PFA. If you had contract talks and think you have agreed something and then a contract is placed in front of you with a different number than was agreed and you were told that's it, you might need to walk away. If later the club came knocking later and offered you what they originally did you would sign if you had no other offer but would you be happy with that kind of treatment? If the club did that to one of its longest serving players what would that say to the team? If that type of behaviour is happening the whole team would get a bit cheesed off no? Could you believe what was being said to you? Would you be giving everything for the shirt? No you wouldn't. You'd check out. You'd feel sorry for the fans obviously but you're not involved or being asked to buy in to a vision are you?

Read your contract, your preliminary offer and if they don’t match up don’t sign.
Things like this (if true) would soon get round the players grapevine.
Signing up then acting like a child is just as bad as the original insult.

I read your post as the players had signed up on contract and then pool's messing with the terms within their contract

No idea why the owner needs to make a statement, what’s he going to say sorry we have so many s** players and a manager who doesn’t appear to know what he is doing tactically.

Don't agents do the negotiations these days???? Is somebody saying he sat down, without his agent, and negotiated a new contract which was then formally written out, only for him to find that the contract had been altered when it was presented for his signature. Really???
I think there needs to be a bit more meat put on this particular bone.
Who on Earth would draw up a contract in that manner and expect to get away with it. I realise that typo errors can be made but it sounds a bit far fetched to claim it was a deliberate act. Are footballers and/or their agents that thick that they would just sign something without checking it's validity. Somebody is having a laugh as Harry Rednapp would say.

You sound like you're talking about Featherstone. Askey wanted him to stay on last summer but Feaths wasn't happy with the contract offered by the club and in the end he walked away.
As we all know, he was back by the beginning of October - on better terms or the same terms, who knows? A lot of water had gone under the bridge for both parties by then.

The same thing happened with Gary Liddle the previous season but he left because South Shields made him a more lucrative offer.

Why is it surprising that the club would try to to save money on players heading the wrong side of 35 who are envisaged by their managers as valuable squad members rather than the automatic picks they'd once been? Similar calculations are made all the time at every level of football.

You want us to believe "that type of behaviour is happening to the whole team"? Tell us who your source is then. Raj, the club secretary or the PFA?

Nah, the forum is about Pools, Raj owns Pools, he is fair game for discussion and criticism on here. Don't like it? Don't read it.

I don't want you to believe anything. Make your own mind up.

You have to let them have a good whinge …if you didn’t, all the pressure and frustration could build up and we’d have dozens of Jack the Ripper types wandering the streets…. this place is definitely a pressure relief valve.

Wow that's perspective Derwent. I do agree that we can talk to departed loved ones I have done similar with mine and got responses. That is surely the worst kind of loss you suffered and every parents worst nightmare total respect my friend total respect

Which is exactly the stance we take. The skill is knowing when to stop.

We know when to stop, when Singh buggers off.

The so called whingers on here don't make these shit loads of embarrassing results.
So ya could say a bit of Criticism is sell f inflicted from the so called top cat ov HUFC.
Ya don't buy fish n chips with a rusty bolt in it and say/think hopefully next time it's just fish n chips.
Basic Philosophy really.
UTP.

You miss the point, whether right or wrong a whinger is still a whinger.

Worked with a lad who whinged about eveything constantly….sometimes he was correct other times he wasn’t, but the whinging resulted in no one really taking any notice of him because that’s what he did…all the time.

Have a whip round for a statue. See how much you get.

My hero was Harold Hornsey. Saved the club AND stood aside when the time came, putting HUFC first.

Singh saved Pools the difference is Harold Hornsey knew when to move Singh doesn’t because he is a business man and is only interested in getting his money back.

and then move to the next person who owns the club who is not to your liking and makes their mistakes. i,d like to see him gone myself but only if we get an improvement on him which isn,t nailed on. like players and managers the perfect owner does not exist especially down at our level.

'Whinger' is a label placed on people making valid criticisms by people who are not interested or disagree.

If you are not interested then scroll on by. Easy.

If you disagree, prove to us that the embarrassing mess the club is in is in fact a figment of our imagination.

Bollocks, ……some people whinge when giving out good news.
I’m not knocking whinging, just stating a fact.
Like how you composed the argument to your point of view, I like that that
Now chill out

Whinge meaning from the Collins dictionary,
If you say that someone is whingeing, you mean that they are complaining in an annoying way about something unimportant.

Most owners dont leave you languishing on the verge of National North Football. Hands up though you have got to give it to the bloke, he has done a tremendous job.

Yer don’t say….. With all due respect to Collins, you can whinge about something that is ‘important’….one man’s ‘important’ is another ‘man’s ‘unimportant’…options vary on importance.
To ‘whinge’ in my understanding of the word is to go on and on and on about the same thing over something you have no control over.
Hope that helps.
The Oxford English Dictionary is more concise….’ To complain peevishly’….

its a proven fact that those who do a review on something on youtube get more looks when they review something bad than anything good. same in football after a bad defeat there are more comments on everything than if their side had won. we are no different. how many posts would have been made if tuesday result had been the other way round. possibly tumbleweed would have crossed your screen when you came on to view.

Exactly.

Some peeps are just born that way.
They can't help it... and should be pitied really.
Born to whine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11pgiNItESY