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 Post subject: Rubbish Phillps
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Poor team selection and worse performance against a bang average side who had the better of the chances

Am sure the team will be 'bubbly' again in training and 'park this one' but reality is setting in after a new manager bounce.

Not convinced Phillips is the man to bring success so far, and he has no chance unless we have investment so be interesting to see what Raj has to say.

At least people wont go into next season with false expectations


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Poor team selection and worse performance against a bang average side who had the better of the chances

Am sure the team will be 'bubbly' again in training and 'park this one' but reality is setting in after a new manager bounce.

Not convinced Phillips is the man to bring success so far, and he has no chance unless we have investment so be interesting to see what Raj has to say.

At least people wont go into next season with false expectations


It will be the same for every manager that comes here, having to work miracles with bang average players.


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Not expecting miracles but managers job is to make the best of what we have, Lacey at right back is an almost sackable offense !


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Behave yourself ffs - he's been here 5 minutes and having to cobble together a team from others wastes of time and money.
You were among those saying we'd bevrelegared if things didn't improve - well they have improved and we're not going to be relegated.
Let's just wait and see what happens through the close season and the start of next before declaring him a failure.


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loyal_fan wrote:
Not expecting miracles but managers job is to make the best of what we have, Lacey at right back is an almost sackable offense !


Judge KP next season.
But end of the day success boils down to the main man.
Think we at a crossroads were the fans want action for ST commitment.
It's a 2 way thing ain't it and the fans loyalty needs a bit of action not BS.
See what August brings folks. sctatchinghead


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In some ways it’s a blessing the limitations are getting exposed now so Raj needs to shit or get off the pot in close season

Jury out for Phillips on me , todays selection was really poor though


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loyal_fan wrote:
Not expecting miracles but managers job is to make the best of what we have, Lacey at right back is an almost sackable offense !


KP has brought in players that have improved the squad so I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt at present.

I respect your opinions loyal_fan as you are clearly well educated knowing the difference between continuous and continual. English was my worst subject at school but I do know the difference between:
Continuous Continual Plus the following:
Less Fewer (countable)
Amount Number (countable)
Middle Centre (needs more than one dimension)
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
Not expecting miracles but managers job is to make the best of what we have, Lacey at right back is an almost sackable offense !


Judge KP next season.
But end of the day success boils down to the main man.
Think we at a crossroads were the fans want action for ST commitment.
It's a 2 way thing ain't it and the fans loyalty needs a bit of action not BS.
See what August brings folks. sctatchinghead


Spot on Kev :wink:


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He has brought in 8 players but imo only the two central defenders have been the ones to improve the team.


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And they were lined up
By Askey.

Apparently Lennie Lawrence was ‘buzzing’ after the game with a clean sheet so at least someone is happy…


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loyal_fan wrote:
Poor team selection and worse performance against a bang average side who had the better of the chances

Am sure the team will be 'bubbly' again in training and 'park this one' but reality is setting in after a new manager bounce.

Not convinced Phillips is the man to bring success so far, and he has no chance unless we have investment so be interesting to see what Raj has to say.

At least people wont go into next season with false expectations


In its own way this thread title is as OTT as harrogatepoolie granting KP legendary Pools manager status after about 4 games. Southend are so 'bang average' they're unbeaten in 9. Anyway, you predicted a 2-1 defeat - if 0-0 is 'Rubbish Phillips' what would a loss have been?

I doubt anyone has false expectations about next season - it's obvious there's a big rebuilding job to do in the summer.


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We created fuck all, Phillips plays Lacey right back then complains about not getting enough crosses in, it’s basic stuff


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Could not understand why he picked Lacey at full back, him and Cooper were terrible.


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Maybe he asked Lacey to play Right Full Back and not Right Wing Back, and maybe the manager expected crosses to be put in by the right sided midfielders (Cooper who never beat the first man with an attempted cross, or Dickenson when switched to the right but never even tried to get a cross in)?


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I'm guessing he played Lacey there as Southend play a lot of long diagonal balls and probably would have preyed on that young lad today. Don't think Lacey actually did anything wrong today, no more than anyone else anyway. Really not been impressed without Dickenson, he's like Matty Dolan playing out on the wing, just offers absolutely nothing and is blowing out his arse after 30 mins. Cooper offered zero for the second game in a row, looks very lightweight. This midfield 3 shouldn't be playing together either, it never seems to work, they just don't seem to compliment eachother. Cooke was awful today, so many miss placed passes, he has ability but showing it 1 game in 5 isn't good enough, for the wages he's probably on I'm not sure we get value for money. Main highlights today are waterfall and Parkes, both solid players and are way ahead of players like Mani O, they are willing to get stuck in. Mani D again put a great shift in, he's a proper team player and gives his all every game.


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PTID wrote:
Maybe he asked Lacey to play Right Full Back and not Right Wing Back, and maybe the manager expected crosses to be put in by the right sided midfielders (Cooper who never beat the first man with an attempted cross, or Dickenson when switched to the right but never even tried to get a cross in)?


This - makes a change when someone isn’t obsessed with saying how bad player x is. BTW, I thought Featherstone played well. Do you agree? :x


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Flying Hogans wrote:
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Maybe he asked Lacey to play Right Full Back and not Right Wing Back, and maybe the manager expected crosses to be put in by the right sided midfielders (Cooper who never beat the first man with an attempted cross, or Dickenson when switched to the right but never even tried to get a cross in)?


This - makes a change when someone isn’t obsessed with saying how bad player x is. BTW, I thought Featherstone played well. Do you agree? :x



Lacey got stood up a couple of times in the first half as well--just seemed pointless playing someone obviosuly not going to be with us next year--if he wanted more stability just play Mani O there


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You’ve had it in for Phillips from day one.
I can’t take seriously the opinion of someone who thought Killip was a goalkeeper.
Have some Ovaltine and sleep it off. :roll:

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Featherstone had a good game today, between him Parkes and Fergy for MoM imo.


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Far too soon to define KP as a success or otherwise.


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Snowy wrote:
You’ve had it in for Phillips from day one.
I can’t take seriously the opinion of someone who thought Killip was a goalkeeper.
Have some Ovaltine and sleep it off. :roll:



Just call it as i see it--he had a good start, and improved us in short term, the performance v Bromley was the best of the season, but its stalled and he's making some poor decisions and dubious post match assessments--doesn't help we dont have the quality and we will only see how good he is next year i suppose---can just see the writing on the wall--tbh its more the fact we still seem to be a bit of a zombie club under Singh--we need some clarity on how materially we are going to be funded next year since Singh turned down an offer flat, and Phillips claiming how great the chairman was becomes grating (tho in fairness he has toned that down a bit)


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Snowy wrote:
You’ve had it in for Phillips from day one.
I can’t take seriously the opinion of someone who thought Killip was a goalkeeper.
Have some Ovaltine and sleep it off. :roll:


I now believe Loyal is infact Hignet sctatchinghead Otherwise he needs to go back to the mental hospital. :roll:


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Far too soon to define KP as a success or otherwise.


Success in the fact Pools didn’t concede any goals yesterday no matter who signed the 2 centre backs, a few of the players have stepped up a notch in their game since KP appointment.The biggest problem is inconsistency, if KP sorts that out and gets us through to the end of the season even if 0-0 I will be happy with that, playing attractive football doesn’t win games.


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Absolutely abysmal in the final third of the pitch, Mani D was too isolated for most if the game and had very little service. Fergy was our most creative player which says it all.


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opinions eh we all have em. looking at how few goals southend have let in the game wasn,t going to be a feast of goals anyway. joe grey missing was the problem in the last third of the pitch and the first half fergy hadn,t a pass to play as there seemed nobody else out wide infront of him to play a ball to. i have seen far worse games than yesterday including ones with a few goals in it. think KP might have actually wrote this season off and getting the defence sorted which i thought we did is a good step forward. at least both keepers had a typical modern game with both defences on top and with little to do. better than ours looking like a coconut on a shy with shots flying in on a regular basis. as for lacey he is a limited player going forward but never once let the side down. we cannot say that for every player who has played RB this season.


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Sometimes people never see the big picture.
Realistically Phillips is planning for next year, if he’s allowed to have his way, instead of chasing the mirage of the playoffs the foundations should be getting laid for next season.

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Absolutely abysmal in the final third of the pitch, Mani D was too isolated for most if the game and had very little service. Fergy was our most creative player which says it all.


KP admitted that in his post match interview and said Grey was a big miss.


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Snowy wrote:
Sometimes people never see the big picture.
Realistically Phillips is planning for next year, if he’s allowed to have his way, instead of chasing the mirage of the playoffs the foundations should be getting laid for next season.



How is playing Lacey planning for next year ?


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We created fuck all, Phillips plays Lacey right back then complains about not getting enough crosses in, it’s basic stuff


Have you ever considered applying for the managers job sctatchinghead With your impeccable knowledge of football I reckon we would win this league by Christmas next season. :laugh:


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loyal_fan wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
PTID wrote:
Maybe he asked Lacey to play Right Full Back and not Right Wing Back, and maybe the manager expected crosses to be put in by the right sided midfielders (Cooper who never beat the first man with an attempted cross, or Dickenson when switched to the right but never even tried to get a cross in)?


This - makes a change when someone isn’t obsessed with saying how bad player x is. BTW, I thought Featherstone played well. Do you agree? :x



Lacey got stood up a couple of times in the first half as well--just seemed pointless playing someone obviosuly not going to be with us next year--if he wanted more stability just play Mani O there


Obviously sctatchinghead


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Snowy wrote:
You’ve had it in for Phillips from day one.
I can’t take seriously the opinion of someone who thought Killip was a goalkeeper.
Have some Ovaltine and sleep it off. :roll:


If I was Loyal fan I would read the messages carefully and quickly understand that nearly everyone on here disagrees with me. We all have opinions and they should be respected but come on Loyal you are on a witch hunt. :roll:


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Flying Hogans wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
Poor team selection and worse performance against a bang average side who had the better of the chances

Am sure the team will be 'bubbly' again in training and 'park this one' but reality is setting in after a new manager bounce.

Not convinced Phillips is the man to bring success so far, and he has no chance unless we have investment so be interesting to see what Raj has to say.

At least people wont go into next season with false expectations


In its own way this thread title is as OTT as harrogatepoolie granting KP legendary Pools manager status after about 4 games. Southend are so 'bang average' they're unbeaten in 9. Anyway, you predicted a 2-1 defeat - if 0-0 is 'Rubbish Phillips' what would a loss have been?

I doubt anyone has false expectations about next season - it's obvious there's a big rebuilding job to do in the summer.


They’ve also got the National League’s best defence. Only 39 goals conceded. We’ve conceded 66.


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Whoever is scouting most of our loan players needs scattering before next season starts, because 90 percent of them that we bring in are awful. We need a better plan for next season because things clearly have not been working for a long time.Phillips will be next out of a job by christmas if we dont somehow change this reliance on piss poor loans.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Whoever is scouting most of our loan players needs scattering before next season starts, because 90 percent of them that we bring in are awful. We need a better plan for next season because things clearly have not been working for a long time.Phillips will be next out of a job by christmas if we dont somehow change this reliance on piss poor loans.

Are these players picked out of a catalogue….?

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Am i the only person in the UK watching Oxford City play Halifax (TNT) when Chelsea v Leicester is on Council telly.
The ground looks tiny and the atmosphere non existent.
What a league this is. sadx

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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Whoever is scouting most of our loan players needs scattering before next season starts, because 90 percent of them that we bring in are awful. We need a better plan for next season because things clearly have not been working for a long time.Phillips will be next out of a job by christmas if we dont somehow change this reliance on piss poor loans.


And we need a fair few proper permanent signings.
Because the out of contract players didn't break a sweat yesterday.
And they don't cost a fortune otherwise tinpot Barrow wudent be challenging for a league 1 spot next season.
It can be done.
It really can.
Ambition coming to Fruitition
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Obvious question (to me anyway) if KP is bemoaning lack of crosses - why don't we get the big lads into the opposition box when we have free kicks in their half and put the ball I to dangerous areas? We must have had half a dozen chances to do that yesterday but took the tippy tappy option and ended up with the ball at our CBs or goalkeeper. Too slow, too predictable, too easy to defend against.


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Am i the only person in the UK watching Oxford City play Halifax (TNT) when Chelsea v Leicester is on Council telly.
The ground looks tiny and the atmosphere non existent.
What a league this is. sadx

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Obviously we must wait until next season to judge Phillips but the facts are that since taking over we have signed 9 players. Some of course were in the pipe line when he came in but imo only the two central defenders have made any impression on the team and worth considering for next season.


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Leggie43 wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
We created fuck all, Phillips plays Lacey right back then complains about not getting enough crosses in, it’s basic stuff


Have you ever considered applying for the managers job sctatchinghead With your impeccable knowledge of football I reckon we would win this league by Christmas next season. :laugh:



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Obviously we must wait until next season to judge Phillips but the facts are that since taking over we have signed 9 players. Some of course were in the pipe line when he came in but imo only the two central defenders have made any impression on the team and worth considering for next season.



yes and they were the 2 already in the pipeline......


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Who have we signed permanently is the key question, and as far as I know there's only the 2 in Parkes and Waterfall - anyone got any complaints about those 2?
The rest are basically on trial so no real harm done, not like giving 2 year deals to players from Scotland as previously happened.


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Otis Khan? WTF? Already had a proven injury record but he's deemed good enough for us. Played 70 minutes so far. Probably needs another two weeks before he can even be considered for first team action and then no guarantee he wont break down again. Dunno why he is coming back again. Might as well be injured at Grimsby and being paid than injured at Pools and being paid. I presume we have signed something that says we have to have him till the end of the season come what may. Just hoping he is not a permanant signing. Unbelievable.


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Everything about Cooke I hate was on offer yesterday.
Poor first touch and ball control losing possession.
Innumerable wayward passes to the opposition.
Strolled around walking or trotting like a carthorse.
He thinks he is some kind of footballing god way above this level.
Has a half arsed attitude and looked f/kin totally disinterested yesterday tbh.
Complete opposite of Feaths.
At season end I expect KP to say goodbye and thank you Cookey boy.
No offer of a new contract for gods sake.
If not my assessment of KP will really change... big time.
The retained list should be interesting.


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Cooke is class on his day but he doesn't have enough good days. Considering he's reputable one of the higher earners at the club so a luxury we can't afford imo. Think he'll struggle to find a league club to sign him too.


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Believe Waterfall may be loan


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Cooke is class on his day?
KP has repeatedly said look if you are having an off day you can still run around, put a tackle in, and work for the team.
He has now seen enough of Cookey boy to know he just doesn't do that on the 4 out of every 5 games he is "off".
So I expect KP to follow that up and say f/k off to a new contract for him, and thanks but no thanks.
Or otherwise is it all just pure waffle by KP?


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Johnjo1 wrote:
Believe Waterfall may be loan


Wrong.
And BTW the deal was arranged before KP arrived as he admitted during an early interview.
Waterfall previously worked with Askey, and the deal with Pools was lined up before Askey was sacked and KP arrived
So KP really cannot take any credit on that one... as some on here appear to believe he should. :roll:
The same applies to Parkes.
The two players who I think everyone would agree have turned it around.
Life is so unfair innit?
So who exactly has KP brought in?
Kwaku, Cooper, Khan, Dickenson et al?
Sorry but not a decent signing among them as far as I can see.... so far.


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I believe everyone knew they were lined up before Phillips started or has given him credit for their signings but I thought one of them was on loan was it Parkes then?


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