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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:15 pm 
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The last 6 days the channel crossing weather must have improved with the following figures being recorded;
Wed 28/2 249 in 5 boats
Thu 20/2 Nothing
Fri 01/03 Nothing
Sat 02/03 Nothing
Sun 03/03 327 in 8 boats
Mon 04/03 401 in 7 boats

Nearly 1000 in 6 days!


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I could have sworn Sunak said he would stop the boats. Someone should send these figures to him. I dont suppose he realizes. Probably still searching for threats from the "far right".


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They (the government) could direct the navy to patrol the channel but we the taxpayer pay for that so no chance of that happening.

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A comment I heard the other day from a labour politician regarding the illegals, was that they’d speed up the processing then they can get them housed and in jobs….er, that sounds like they’re not sending anyone back.

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I could have sworn Sunak said he would stop the boats. Someone should send these figures to him. I dont suppose he realizes. Probably still searching for threats from the "far right".


Glad it's only boats they are trying to stop because if it was missiles we would be history by now. banghead


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They (the government) could direct the navy to patrol the channel but we the taxpayer pay for that so no chance of that happening.


They could fill the channel with Navy boats but the law says we have to pick the migrants up up and bring them to the UK if they are in British territorial waters. The more boats we have in the channel the more migrants we can pick up. The French help them get to British waters. Why wouldnt they? I just wish we'd stop paying them to do it.


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A comment I heard the other day from a labour politician regarding the illegals, was that they’d speed up the processing then they can get them housed and in jobs….er, that sounds like they’re not sending anyone back.


Anyone who believes anything else must be simple. To be fair, the Tories dont send anyone back either so it doesnt matter which government is in power or how many migrants arrive we will just keep on taking them. Of course the record number of legal migrants should be added to the figures. No wonder all our public services are at breaking point and thousands of people with no loyalty to this country march in London every weekend without fail. Boils my pish.


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These figures here are eye watering and they are from a government source, no wonder our services are collapsing,
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistic ... permission


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Stirring speech by Yvette Cooper about Border Control and Customs and how much money Rwanda is costing and will cost, the scheme should be scrapped and the money used to pay for extra staff.
It’s free to watch, some on here think you have to pay to watch YouTube, you do if you want to watch advert free.
https://youtu.be/pAU26MQacpI?si=iX-V54NSQ603rj-I


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Stirring speech by Yvette Cooper about Border Control and Customs and how much money Rwanda is costing and will cost, the scheme should be scrapped and the money used to pay for extra staff.
It’s free to watch, some on here think you have to pay to watch YouTube, you do if you want to watch advert free.
https://youtu.be/pAU26MQacpI?si=iX-V54NSQ603rj-I

You a Starmer shill Jamie….?
Yvette Cooper has never made a stirring speech in her life, all voter friendly tosh for the gullible. Leopards don’t change their spots, they’ll revert to form when in power and let the the boats continue…plus the massive legal immigration…the Tory’s are shite, but Labour ain’t gonna improve the situation one jot.
Anyone who thinks things are going to get better on the boats under Starmer is taking too many recreational drugs.

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Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Stirring speech by Yvette Cooper about Border Control and Customs and how much money Rwanda is costing and will cost, the scheme should be scrapped and the money used to pay for extra staff.
It’s free to watch, some on here think you have to pay to watch YouTube, you do if you want to watch advert free.
https://youtu.be/pAU26MQacpI?si=iX-V54NSQ603rj-I

You a Starmer shill Jamie….?
Yvette Cooper has never made a stirring speech in her life, all voter friendly tosh for the gullible. Leopards don’t change their spots, they’ll revert to form when in power and let the the boats continue…plus the massive legal immigration…the Tory’s are shite, but Labour ain’t gonna improve the situation one jot.
Anyone who thinks things are going to get better on the boats under Starmer is taking too many recreational drugs.


Everything she said was true or did you actually bother to watch the video, I doubt it, no one can stop the boats fact or even discourage them, these are desperate people.

Who are you a fan of Snowy, Tice, Farage, Rees Mogg, Cameron, Johnson, Sunak, Truss etc you sound like a right wing voter with a deep hatred with anything connected to the Labour Party.

Labour aren’t in power so there is no way you can predict what will happen, it can’t be any worse than the last 14 years under the Tories.


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Labour aren’t in power so there is no way you can predict what will happen, it can’t be any worse than the last 14 years under the Tories.

like after 13 years of blair/brown it could not get worse. the thing is it does not get any better for the average man in the street because as others have said both major party,s are different cheeks of the same westminster arse. so many could cross the chamber and feel perfectly happy as part of the other lot. as for the boats i feel something is bound to happen. in my lifetime the population has risen from the late 40 million with 70 million the nxt figure to reach. can the country sustain many more before the shit hits the fan. rwanda is just a joke as many from all sides of politics think. so expensive for what it can do even if the planes did get off the ground. you,d think some council had thought that idea up.


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Labour will accelerate this green agenda rubbish and push more and more working class families into even more poverty, Labour and Tories are now cut from the same cloth


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Stirring speech by Yvette Cooper about Border Control and Customs and how much money Rwanda is costing and will cost, the scheme should be scrapped and the money used to pay for extra staff.
It’s free to watch, some on here think you have to pay to watch YouTube, you do if you want to watch advert free.
https://youtu.be/pAU26MQacpI?si=iX-V54NSQ603rj-I

You a Starmer shill Jamie….?
Yvette Cooper has never made a stirring speech in her life, all voter friendly tosh for the gullible. Leopards don’t change their spots, they’ll revert to form when in power and let the the boats continue…plus the massive legal immigration…the Tory’s are shite, but Labour ain’t gonna improve the situation one jot.
Anyone who thinks things are going to get better on the boats under Starmer is taking too many recreational drugs.


Everything she said was true or did you actually bother to watch the video, I doubt it, no one can stop the boats fact or even discourage them, these are desperate people.

Who are you a fan of Snowy, Tice, Farage, Rees Mogg, Cameron, Johnson, Sunak, Truss etc you sound like a right wing voter with a deep hatred with anything connected to the Labour Party.

Labour aren’t in power so there is no way you can predict what will happen, it can’t be any worse than the last 14 years under the Tories.


We need to withdraw from the ECHR which is a key reason we are forced to take in these chancers. Tories are too scared of the liberal elite to do it and Labour are all in favour of the ECHR so wont do it either. Thus we are forced to take ever growing numbers of people who have no documents so we dont know who they are, where they are from and what they have done. I strongly dispute they are desperate people, if they were they would stay in any safe European country but no, they are determined to get to the land where everything is free(for them)and the police are a soft touch.


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Labour will accelerate this green agenda rubbish and push more and more working class families into even more poverty, Labour and Tories are now cut from the same cloth

i could take mass immegration if they ditched this green crap, diversity and equality stuff and let all of us just carry on with our lives to mix with who we want to mix with no matter what the colour of our skins are or the religeon if any we follow. intergration will never work and pushing it only makes people less likely to. at school and work there were many you just never spoke to, but we are expected to love our neighbour no matter who they are.


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We need to withdraw from the ECHR which is a key reason we are forced to take in these chancers. Tories are too scared of the liberal elite to do it and Labour are all in favour of the ECHR so wont do it either. Thus we are forced to take ever growing numbers of people who have no documents so we dont know who they are, where they are from and what they have done. I strongly dispute they are desperate people, if they were they would stay in any safe European country but no, they are determined to get to the land where everything is free(for them)and the police are a soft touch.

if the boot was on the other foot and we went in the opposite direction some form of identity would be the first thing we would take with us if we had nothing criminal to hide. mind you far more actually stay in europe than come over here legally or otherwise. keeping em where they come from is far more important even if it costs us what we are paying for immegrants at the moment. better in foreign aid than having them here unless we want them.


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You say try and improve the country they come from but there are still the hordes who see the U.K. as the land of milk and honey and have relatives here, we need to make it less welcoming but how would you do that ? Leaving ECHR wouldn’t make any difference plenty of lawyers funded by Legal Aid would defend them.

As far as going green yes I am in favour of it but let’s put the brakes on and take it a bit slower till the infrastructure is in support to support green energy.


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Stirring speech by Yvette Cooper about Border Control and Customs and how much money Rwanda is costing and will cost, the scheme should be scrapped and the money used to pay for extra staff.
It’s free to watch, some on here think you have to pay to watch YouTube, you do if you want to watch advert free.
https://youtu.be/pAU26MQacpI?si=iX-V54NSQ603rj-I

You a Starmer shill Jamie….?
Yvette Cooper has never made a stirring speech in her life, all voter friendly tosh for the gullible. Leopards don’t change their spots, they’ll revert to form when in power and let the the boats continue…plus the massive legal immigration…the Tory’s are shite, but Labour ain’t gonna improve the situation one jot.
Anyone who thinks things are going to get better on the boats under Starmer is taking too many recreational drugs.


Everything she said was true or did you actually bother to watch the video, I doubt it, no one can stop the boats fact or even discourage them, these are desperate people.

Who are you a fan of Snowy, Tice, Farage, Rees Mogg, Cameron, Johnson, Sunak, Truss etc you sound like a right wing voter with a deep hatred with anything connected to the Labour Party.

Labour aren’t in power so there is no way you can predict what will happen, it can’t be any worse than the last 14 years under the Tories.


We need to withdraw from the ECHR which is a key reason we are forced to take in these chancers. Tories are too scared of the liberal elite to do it and Labour are all in favour of the ECHR so wont do it either. Thus we are forced to take ever growing numbers of people who have no documents so we dont know who they are, where they are from and what they have done. I strongly dispute they are desperate people, if they were they would stay in any safe European country but no, they are determined to get to the land where everything is free(for them)and the police are a soft touch.



How would withdrawing from the ECHR stop the channel crossings, once they arrive on the shores we are stuck with them, you just can’t ship them out, where would you send them to ?


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Stirring speech by Yvette Cooper about Border Control and Customs and how much money Rwanda is costing and will cost, the scheme should be scrapped and the money used to pay for extra staff.
It’s free to watch, some on here think you have to pay to watch YouTube, you do if you want to watch advert free.
https://youtu.be/pAU26MQacpI?si=iX-V54NSQ603rj-I

You a Starmer shill Jamie….?
Yvette Cooper has never made a stirring speech in her life, all voter friendly tosh for the gullible. Leopards don’t change their spots, they’ll revert to form when in power and let the the boats continue…plus the massive legal immigration…the Tory’s are shite, but Labour ain’t gonna improve the situation one jot.
Anyone who thinks things are going to get better on the boats under Starmer is taking too many recreational drugs.


Everything she said was true or did you actually bother to watch the video, I doubt it, no one can stop the boats fact or even discourage them, these are desperate people.
You’ve just confirmed you’re a shill

Who are you a fan of Snowy, Tice, Farage, Rees Mogg, Cameron, Johnson, Sunak, Truss etc you sound like a right wing voter with a deep hatred with anything connected to the Labour Party.
You seem to know all the names…..sorry to disappoint but I’m an independent thinker and sadly there hasn’t been a real Labour Party since the 70’s, this motley crew of middle aged students with less real life experience than Paddington Bear in a brothel are a joke.
What I sound like in your imagination is neither here nor there, I sound like me, simple as that….. you sound like a left wing nodding dog …simply because you naively assume anyone who doesn’t think like you is a threat.


Labour aren’t in power so there is no way you can predict what will happen, it can’t be any worse than the last 14 years under the Tories.

Starmer’s been predicting what’s gonna happen, in a vague way, but nothing concrete, he’s flexible, if you don’t like his plans he has others…… to please demand.
Sunak’s the appointee of the people with power, whoever won that vote to replace Boris, was gonna be removed from office sharpish….and it came to pass…….the election will come and dross will be placed by new dross, but dross is dross.

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Jamie1952 wrote:
You say try and improve the country they come from but there are still the hordes who see the U.K. as the land of milk and honey and have relatives here, we need to make it less welcoming but how would you do that ? Leaving ECHR wouldn’t make any difference plenty of lawyers funded by Legal Aid would defend them.

As far as going green yes I am in favour of it but let’s put the brakes on and take it a bit slower till the infrastructure is in support to support green energy.

how long would it have taken to build WW2 types of POW camps at the outset. the message would quickly get back is that this is all that will be offered and the food provide would only be adequate to keep em alive and healthy. they might also have accepted ex miletary bases, good enough for us, if others had not got superior hotel accomodation which we would struggle to pay for. like a lot of things its better doing all this at the outset and not creating a bigger problem by waiting till its all too late. it took farage and a few others to highlight the situation at dover anyway. the main stream media didn,t and only reported it when they really had to.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
You say try and improve the country they come from but there are still the hordes who see the U.K. as the land of milk and honey and have relatives here, we need to make it less welcoming but how would you do that ? Leaving ECHR wouldn’t make any difference plenty of lawyers funded by Legal Aid would defend them.

As far as going green yes I am in favour of it but let’s put the brakes on and take it a bit slower till the infrastructure is in support to support green energy.

They see it as a land of milk and honey because we’re soft, soft, soft.

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Labour aren’t in power so there is no way you can predict what will happen, it can’t be any worse than the last 14 years under the Tories.

like after 13 years of blair/brown it could not get worse. the thing is it does not get any better for the average man in the street because as others have said both major party,s are different cheeks of the same westminster arse. so many could cross the chamber and feel perfectly happy as part of the other lot. as for the boats i feel something is bound to happen. in my lifetime the population has risen from the late 40 million with 70 million the nxt figure to reach. can the country sustain many more before the shit hits the fan. rwanda is just a joke as many from all sides of politics think. so expensive for what it can do even if the planes did get off the ground. you,d think some council had thought that idea up.



In my working life I can’t remember being worse off or better off no matter what party was in power, I do remember mortgage interest rates being above 15% in years gone by. The thing is I didn’t drive a brand new car and and every electronic gadget under the sun like the younger generation appear to have today.
My only debt was the mortgage and later a bank loan for a small reliable car which was essential for work.


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Mocked,demonised,called a racist..Farage was banging on about all these matters a decade ago. :roll:Parliament needs more Enoch's.


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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
They (the government) could direct the navy to patrol the channel but we the taxpayer pay for that so no chance of that happening.


They could fill the channel with Navy boats but the law says we have to pick the migrants up up and bring them to the UK if they are in British territorial waters. The more boats we have in the channel the more migrants we can pick up. The French help them get to British waters. Why wouldnt they? I just wish we'd stop paying them to do it.


Exactly, the law as it stands is an ass, so why when it's obvious these boats are travelling from France to England are they not being escorted back to France?, the only reason I can think of in their defence (France) is that they could retort with how do you know this boat didn't set off from Belgium or the Netherlands, possibly this is the reason?, I'm not aware that any boats have been stopped travelling from England to France?, although I couldn't say for certain that this isn't happening.

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In my working life I can’t remember being worse off or better off no matter what party was in power, I do remember mortgage interest rates being above 15% in years gone by. The thing is I didn’t drive a brand new car and and every electronic gadget under the sun like the younger generation appear to have today.
My only debt was the mortgage and later a bank loan for a small reliable car which was essential for work.

with i had a tenner for everytime i have heard someone say the same. i,m in that boat myself and really its a party you feel happier to be in power you,ll vote for as you know deep down financially you,ll not be financially any better off. if you can just ignore immegration, green and identity politics there is little reason to vote anyway even when there was some difference between the 2 that will get into power.


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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
They (the government) could direct the navy to patrol the channel but we the taxpayer pay for that so no chance of that happening.


They could fill the channel with Navy boats but the law says we have to pick the migrants up up and bring them to the UK if they are in British territorial waters. The more boats we have in the channel the more migrants we can pick up. The French help them get to British waters. Why wouldnt they? I just wish we'd stop paying them to do it.


Exactly, the law as it stands is an ass, so why when it's obvious these boats are travelling from France to England are they not being escorted back to France?, the only reason I can think of in their defence (France) is that they could retort with how do you know this boat didn't set off from Belgium or the Netherlands, possibly this is the reason?, I'm not aware that any boats have been stopped travelling from England to France?, although I couldn't say for certain that this isn't happening.

There was a programme on last week showing the radar plot for the area of Boulogne which is a much greater distance than the Dover-Calais stretch…..a migrant boat was tracked two miles off shore with a French escort vessel which escorted it to a rendezvous mid channel with a UK Border ‘Farce’ vessel that then took responsibility for the small boat…utterly crazy.

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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
They (the government) could direct the navy to patrol the channel but we the taxpayer pay for that so no chance of that happening.


They could fill the channel with Navy boats but the law says we have to pick the migrants up up and bring them to the UK if they are in British territorial waters. The more boats we have in the channel the more migrants we can pick up. The French help them get to British waters. Why wouldnt they? I just wish we'd stop paying them to do it.


Exactly, the law as it stands is an ass, so why when it's obvious these boats are travelling from France to England are they not being escorted back to France?, the only reason I can think of in their defence (France) is that they could retort with how do you know this boat didn't set off from Belgium or the Netherlands, possibly this is the reason?, I'm not aware that any boats have been stopped travelling from England to France?, although I couldn't say for certain that this isn't happening.


A typical ploy is to make sure they are in British waters and then phone for help saying they are taking in water or their engine has failed (all bollocks) the RNLI or Border Farce are then obliged by maratime law to pick them up because they are in "distress". Because they are in British waters they have to be brought to "safety" in Britain which is when they start their asylum claims. I suspect Snowy knows more about Maritime Law than I do.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Stirring speech by Yvette Cooper about Border Control and Customs and how much money Rwanda is costing and will cost, the scheme should be scrapped and the money used to pay for extra staff.
It’s free to watch, some on here think you have to pay to watch YouTube, you do if you want to watch advert free.
https://youtu.be/pAU26MQacpI?si=iX-V54NSQ603rj-I

You a Starmer shill Jamie….?
Yvette Cooper has never made a stirring speech in her life, all voter friendly tosh for the gullible. Leopards don’t change their spots, they’ll revert to form when in power and let the the boats continue…plus the massive legal immigration…the Tory’s are shite, but Labour ain’t gonna improve the situation one jot.
Anyone who thinks things are going to get better on the boats under Starmer is taking too many recreational drugs.


Everything she said was true or did you actually bother to watch the video, I doubt it, no one can stop the boats fact or even discourage them, these are desperate people.

Who are you a fan of Snowy, Tice, Farage, Rees Mogg, Cameron, Johnson, Sunak, Truss etc you sound like a right wing voter with a deep hatred with anything connected to the Labour Party.

Labour aren’t in power so there is no way you can predict what will happen, it can’t be any worse than the last 14 years under the Tories.


We need to withdraw from the ECHR which is a key reason we are forced to take in these chancers. Tories are too scared of the liberal elite to do it and Labour are all in favour of the ECHR so wont do it either. Thus we are forced to take ever growing numbers of people who have no documents so we dont know who they are, where they are from and what they have done. I strongly dispute they are desperate people, if they were they would stay in any safe European country but no, they are determined to get to the land where everything is free(for them)and the police are a soft touch.



How would withdrawing from the ECHR stop the channel crossings, once they arrive on the shores we are stuck with them, you just can’t ship them out, where would you send them to ?


Because the ECHR makes it well nigh impossible to deport anyone even if their country of origin is prepared to take them. The migrants know this so because of the ECHR and the legions of NGOs with their shyster lawyers, migrants travel to the UK knowing they are pretty certain to stay even if their asylum claim is turned down. The Liverpool Maternity Hospital Bomber was an example of failed asylum seeker still at large in the UK. When they deliberately discard ID documents and refuse to say where are from or give misinformation, it is hard to get rid of them but the migrants know the Home Office dont even try and if they are found out the ECHR is invoked by the migrant charities: "Care for Calais" is the most notorious. Withdrwal from the ECHR will remove the certainty in the mind of the migrants that they will always be certain of life in the UK. Obviously this will never happen..


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Stirring speech by Yvette Cooper about Border Control and Customs and how much money Rwanda is costing and will cost, the scheme should be scrapped and the money used to pay for extra staff.
It’s free to watch, some on here think you have to pay to watch YouTube, you do if you want to watch advert free.
https://youtu.be/pAU26MQacpI?si=iX-V54NSQ603rj-I

You a Starmer shill Jamie….?
Yvette Cooper has never made a stirring speech in her life, all voter friendly tosh for the gullible. Leopards don’t change their spots, they’ll revert to form when in power and let the the boats continue…plus the massive legal immigration…the Tory’s are shite, but Labour ain’t gonna improve the situation one jot.
Anyone who thinks things are going to get better on the boats under Starmer is taking too many recreational drugs.


Labour/ Conservative different name same party same horrible lot who work closely together to achieve what the rulers demand. Before parliament questions start they probably sit together in the green room and receive their lines from the script writer ( same as actors in soaps ). Then the actors go off to play their roles in parliament. Why do
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Stirring speech by Yvette Cooper about Border Control and Customs and how much money Rwanda is costing and will cost, the scheme should be scrapped and the money used to pay for extra staff.
It’s free to watch, some on here think you have to pay to watch YouTube, you do if you want to watch advert free.
https://youtu.be/pAU26MQacpI?si=iX-V54NSQ603rj-I

You a Starmer shill Jamie….?
Yvette Cooper has never made a stirring speech in her life, all voter friendly tosh for the gullible. Leopards don’t change their spots, they’ll revert to form when in power and let the the boats continue…plus the massive legal immigration…the Tory’s are shite, but Labour ain’t gonna improve the situation one jot.
Anyone who thinks things are going to get better on the boats under Starmer is taking too many recreational drugs.


Labour/ Conservative different name same party same horrible lot who work closely together to achieve what the rulers demand. Before parliament questions start they probably sit together in the green room and receive their lines from the script writer ( same as actors in soaps ). Then the actors go off to play their roles in parliament. Why do
you think live telly was invited in sctatchinghead The world is a stage always has been always will be. banghead


It's Deffo well rigged same as these live news channels so called expert panelists.
Only GB News who know Reform should be the future.
Starmer n Hunt. Probably best actor pals off the TV.
Very clever rich people who don't give a monkeys fore end about the general public.
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It's Deffo well rigged same as these live news channels so called expert panelists.
Only GB News who know Reform should be the future.
Starmer n Hunt. Probably best actor pals off the TV.
Very clever rich people who don't give a monkeys fore end about the general public.
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They all piss in the same pot……middle class political yapping dogs so out of touch with the working class they’re the new ‘squires’ who want you to listen to them and not them to you.
The mainstream media have that same snotty look down their noses at the plebs attitude, yet all those at the top rush to embrace all the woke nutters with all the gusto of a tubster anticipating their fast food delivery.
I’ve got to admit I detest those who try to emulate and embrace the new reality being touted our way.

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They all piss in the same pot……middle class political yapping dogs so out of touch with the working class they’re the new ‘squires’ who want you to listen to them and not them to you.
The mainstream media have that same snotty look down their noses at the plebs attitude, yet all those at the top rush to embrace all the woke nutters with all the gusto of a tubster anticipating their fast food delivery.
I’ve got to admit I detest those who try to emulate and embrace the new reality being touted our way.

go back a few years and not too long either that many people and i,d say the majority were not bothered about immegrants with darker skins, lgbt stuff etc. but the woke have changed peoples outlooks so much that many who will vote and have always voted labour will now have right wing views. they,ll end up having a backlash to their policies with attitudes far different from the ones they wanted.


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They all piss in the same pot……middle class political yapping dogs so out of touch with the working class they’re the new ‘squires’ who want you to listen to them and not them to you.
The mainstream media have that same snotty look down their noses at the plebs attitude, yet all those at the top rush to embrace all the woke nutters with all the gusto of a tubster anticipating their fast food delivery.
I’ve got to admit I detest those who try to emulate and embrace the new reality being touted our way.

go back a few years and not too long either that many people and i,d say the majority were not bothered about immegrants with darker skins, lgbt stuff etc. but the woke have changed peoples outlooks so much that many who will vote and have always voted labour will now have right wing views. they,ll end up having a backlash to their policies with attitudes far different from the ones they wanted.


Worrying about where my country is going is not right wing as far as I am concerned. We should all be concerned and being so is the right way to be. I don't see that as right wing but it is certainly right thinking. I agree regarding the backlash because a backlash is what is needed. Having a multi cultural society living in harmony is a nice ideal to have but if the intention of part of that society is to ultimately impose their will and rule on the rest of us then no thank you.

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They all piss in the same pot……middle class political yapping dogs so out of touch with the working class they’re the new ‘squires’ who want you to listen to them and not them to you.
The mainstream media have that same snotty look down their noses at the plebs attitude, yet all those at the top rush to embrace all the woke nutters with all the gusto of a tubster anticipating their fast food delivery.
I’ve got to admit I detest those who try to emulate and embrace the new reality being touted our way.

go back a few years and not too long either that many people and i,d say the majority were not bothered about immegrants with darker skins, lgbt stuff etc. but the woke have changed peoples outlooks so much that many who will vote and have always voted labour will now have right wing views. they,ll end up having a backlash to their policies with attitudes far different from the ones they wanted.


Worrying about where my country is going is not right wing as far as I am concerned. We should all be concerned and being so is the right way to be. I don't see that as right wing but it is certainly right thinking. I agree regarding the backlash because a backlash is what is needed. Having a multi cultural society living in harmony is a nice ideal to have but if the intention of part of that society is to ultimately impose their will and rule on the rest of us then no thank you.


Agree 100%. The label "right wing" is a smear that is used against anyone who is not fully behind the globalist, liberal agenda typified by the mainstream media and both Labour and Tory parties.


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Agree 100%. The label "right wing" is a smear that is used against anyone who is not fully behind the globalist, liberal agenda typified by the mainstream media and both Labour and Tory parties.

Anyone acting like we all did pre 2000 is now regarded by influencers as a goose stepping right wing fanatic ….it’s called ‘being normal’….or..’the majority’.

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Agree 100%. The label "right wing" is a smear that is used against anyone who is not fully behind the globalist, liberal agenda typified by the mainstream media and both Labour and Tory parties.

Anyone acting like we all did pre 2000 is now regarded by influencers as a goose stepping right wing fanatic ….it’s called ‘being normal’….or..’the majority’.

one thing we will never get is a referendum on how we want our country to be. brexit showed the majority are against any governments now. intergration and all of us living in harmony without ghetto,s will never work anywhere. i,d guess right now if any of us moved abroad we,d end up living close to a fellow brit like immegrants do here. its not a safety in numbers but feeling better living near to those with the same culture and language which is more common sense than anything evil pointed out about people doing this.


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Agree 100%. The label "right wing" is a smear that is used against anyone who is not fully behind the globalist, liberal agenda typified by the mainstream media and both Labour and Tory parties.

Anyone acting like we all did pre 2000 is now regarded by influencers as a goose stepping right wing fanatic ….it’s called ‘being normal’….or..’the majority’.

one thing we will never get is a referendum on how we want our country to be. brexit showed the majority are against any governments now. intergration and all of us living in harmony without ghetto,s will never work anywhere. i,d guess right now if any of us moved abroad we,d end up living close to a fellow brit like immegrants do here. its not a safety in numbers but feeling better living near to those with the same culture and language which is more common sense than anything evil pointed out about people doing this.



When I worked abroad I kept away from the Brits, I preferred mixing with the locals eating and drinking in their establishments. Where I live temporarily is among the locals, I very rarely see or speak to a Brit, the conversation always reverts back to immigration etc forgetting they are actually an immigrant here.
Typical Brit abroad is looking for English food, Sunday Dinner, English Breakfast etc and English beer, shop here called Siamburis which sells British produce at greatly inflated prices, I can find everything I need in the local supermarket. A Witherspoons Bar, newbies think is Wetherspoons with cheap beer which it’s not, I sometimes wonder why Brits live abroad because all they do is moan.


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Snowy wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Agree 100%. The label "right wing" is a smear that is used against anyone who is not fully behind the globalist, liberal agenda typified by the mainstream media and both Labour and Tory parties.

Anyone acting like we all did pre 2000 is now regarded by influencers as a goose stepping right wing fanatic ….it’s called ‘being normal’….or..’the majority’.

one thing we will never get is a referendum on how we want our country to be. brexit showed the majority are against any governments now. intergration and all of us living in harmony without ghetto,s will never work anywhere. i,d guess right now if any of us moved abroad we,d end up living close to a fellow brit like immegrants do here. its not a safety in numbers but feeling better living near to those with the same culture and language which is more common sense than anything evil pointed out about people doing this.



When I worked abroad I kept away from the Brits, I preferred mixing with the locals eating and drinking in their establishments. Where I live temporarily is among the locals, I very rarely see or speak to a Brit, the conversation always reverts back to immigration etc forgetting they are actually an immigrant here.
Typical Brit abroad is looking for English food, Sunday Dinner, English Breakfast etc and English beer, shop here called Siamburis which sells British produce at greatly inflated prices, I can find everything I need in the local supermarket. A Witherspoons Bar, newbies think is Wetherspoons with cheap beer which it’s not, I sometimes wonder why Brits live abroad because all they do is moan.

you can say just the same for the majority of immegrants coming to this country. they quickly get their own food, clothing and eating places no matter where they come from. these places never existed until immegrants arrived and are fullfilling a need that they want.


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accrington fan wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Agree 100%. The label "right wing" is a smear that is used against anyone who is not fully behind the globalist, liberal agenda typified by the mainstream media and both Labour and Tory parties.

Anyone acting like we all did pre 2000 is now regarded by influencers as a goose stepping right wing fanatic ….it’s called ‘being normal’….or..’the majority’.

one thing we will never get is a referendum on how we want our country to be. brexit showed the majority are against any governments now. intergration and all of us living in harmony without ghetto,s will never work anywhere. i,d guess right now if any of us moved abroad we,d end up living close to a fellow brit like immegrants do here. its not a safety in numbers but feeling better living near to those with the same culture and language which is more common sense than anything evil pointed out about people doing this.



When I worked abroad I kept away from the Brits, I preferred mixing with the locals eating and drinking in their establishments. Where I live temporarily is among the locals, I very rarely see or speak to a Brit, the conversation always reverts back to immigration etc forgetting they are actually an immigrant here.
Typical Brit abroad is looking for English food, Sunday Dinner, English Breakfast etc and English beer, shop here called Siamburis which sells British produce at greatly inflated prices, I can find everything I need in the local supermarket. A Witherspoons Bar, newbies think is Wetherspoons with cheap beer which it’s not, I sometimes wonder why Brits live abroad because all they do is moan.

you can say just the same for the majority of immegrants coming to this country. they quickly get their own food, clothing and eating places no matter where they come from. these places never existed until immegrants arrived and are fullfilling a need that they want.


What I hate’ here is some Brits and westerners look down and talk down to the locals thinking they are thick, believe me they are not. They expect them to understand and speak English and get very agitated when they don’t get a reply. The disrespect they show to staff whether it in a bar, restaurant supermarket is unbelievable at times.


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What I hate’ here is some Brits and westerners look down and talk down to the locals thinking they are thick, believe me they are not. They expect them to understand and speak English and get very agitated when they don’t get a reply. The disrespect they show to staff whether it in a bar, restaurant supermarket is unbelievable at times.

that does raise a smile with me as even in this country they demand everyone coming here to speak english as quick as possible when as a whole we are the worst nation to attempt to speak a foreign language. we must be one of the worlds most arrogant nations in this respect as its always up to them but never us and i,d guess i,m no better than the rest as i could not even say good morning in the home language of the paki shop i go to.


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These figures here are eye watering and they are from a government source, no wonder our services are collapsing,
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistic ... permission



And there's all that fruit and veg rotting in the fields through the lack of visas granted here mr j..


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Agree 100%. The label "right wing" is a smear that is used against anyone who is not fully behind the globalist, liberal agenda typified by the mainstream media and both Labour and Tory parties.

Anyone acting like we all did pre 2000 is now regarded by influencers as a goose stepping right wing fanatic ….it’s called ‘being normal’….or..’the majority’.

one thing we will never get is a referendum on how we want our country to be. brexit showed the majority are against any governments now. intergration and all of us living in harmony without ghetto,s will never work anywhere. i,d guess right now if any of us moved abroad we,d end up living close to a fellow brit like immegrants do here. its not a safety in numbers but feeling better living near to those with the same culture and language which is more common sense than anything evil pointed out about people doing this.



When I worked abroad I kept away from the Brits, I preferred mixing with the locals eating and drinking in their establishments. Where I live temporarily is among the locals, I very rarely see or speak to a Brit, the conversation always reverts back to immigration etc forgetting they are actually an immigrant here.



Be alright for a few hours i suppose...bet you've always got your eye on your wallet mr j ?


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What I hate’ here is some Brits and westerners look down and talk down to the locals thinking they are thick, believe me they are not. They expect them to understand and speak English and get very agitated when they don’t get a reply. The disrespect they show to staff whether it in a bar, restaurant supermarket is unbelievable at times.

that does raise a smile with me as even in this country they demand everyone coming here to speak english as quick as possible when as a whole we are the worst nation to attempt to speak a foreign language. we must be one of the worlds most arrogant nations in this respect as its always up to them but never us and i,d guess i,m no better than the rest as i could not even say good morning in the home language of the paki shop i go to.



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These figures here are eye watering and they are from a government source, no wonder our services are collapsing,
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistic ... permission



And there's all that fruit and veg rotting in the fields through the lack of visas granted here mr j..


The fruit and veg rotting in the fields is because the Brits won’t work in the fields, they brought Europeans over during Freedom of Movement but Brexit scuppered that.
I do believe those waiting claims for asylum if fit for work should working instead of living on benefits.


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accrington fan wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Agree 100%. The label "right wing" is a smear that is used against anyone who is not fully behind the globalist, liberal agenda typified by the mainstream media and both Labour and Tory parties.

Anyone acting like we all did pre 2000 is now regarded by influencers as a goose stepping right wing fanatic ….it’s called ‘being normal’….or..’the majority’.

one thing we will never get is a referendum on how we want our country to be. brexit showed the majority are against any governments now. intergration and all of us living in harmony without ghetto,s will never work anywhere. i,d guess right now if any of us moved abroad we,d end up living close to a fellow brit like immegrants do here. its not a safety in numbers but feeling better living near to those with the same culture and language which is more common sense than anything evil pointed out about people doing this.



When I worked abroad I kept away from the Brits, I preferred mixing with the locals eating and drinking in their establishments. Where I live temporarily is among the locals, I very rarely see or speak to a Brit, the conversation always reverts back to immigration etc forgetting they are actually an immigrant here.



Be alright for a few hours i suppose...bet you've always got your eye on your wallet mr j ?


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These figures here are eye watering and they are from a government source, no wonder our services are collapsing,
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistic ... permission



And there's all that fruit and veg rotting in the fields through the lack of visas granted here mr j..


The fruit and veg rotting in the fields is because the Brits won’t work in the fields, they brought Europeans over during Freedom of Movement but Brexit scuppered that.
I do believe those waiting claims for asylum if fit for work should working instead of living on benefits.

The reason some Brits are not working in the fields or anywhere also is because non of the politicians will clamp down on those elements who won’t work by rejigging the benefits system.
Never mind importing Labour into the country when there’s a sizeable proportion of people sat on their fat backsides…caused by politicians with no backbone.

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Snowy wrote:
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Jamie1952 wrote:
These figures here are eye watering and they are from a government source, no wonder our services are collapsing,
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistic ... permission



And there's all that fruit and veg rotting in the fields through the lack of visas granted here mr j..


The fruit and veg rotting in the fields is because the Brits won’t work in the fields, they brought Europeans over during Freedom of Movement but Brexit scuppered that.
I do believe those waiting claims for asylum if fit for work should working instead of living on benefits.

The reason some Brits are not working in the fields or anywhere also is because non of the politicians will clamp down on those elements who won’t work by rejigging the benefits system.
Never mind importing Labour into the country when there’s a sizeable proportion of people sat on their fat backsides…caused by politicians with no backbone.


They have had various schemes over the years to try and encourage some of the unemployed back into work, you can take a horse to water but you can’t make it drink it. Suspend their benefits they just go out theivin and robbing.
I have said this many times, cheapscape employers employ people with their permission employ them on a salary that still entitles them to benefits.The vast majority of people on benefits are actually working.


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