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 Post subject: Sin bins
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:01 pm 
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The FA are now considering sin bins for dissent and could be trialling it in the FA Cup.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 3:13 pm 
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Well i guess we should get used to half time shows and kiss cams aswell. Cant wait for Man City to get relegated but the FA dont allow it cos its all about Franchise FC. The makings of this bullshit all stem far to heavily from the american sports model !


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
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Next we will get cheerleaders and you keep the ball if you catch it.


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:46 pm 
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Leggie43 wrote:
Next we will get cheerleaders and you keep the ball if you catch it.

We had that at half time under IOR remember…why? sctatchinghead

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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:54 pm 
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Great idea i am sick of these overpaid twats having tantrums.
Kids just copy it.

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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:00 pm 
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Raj - If you're reading this-
Please, Please Please, Bring back the Deck Chair Challenge :pray: :pray: :pray: -
Now that was half time entertainment at it's finest!

The idea was simple- you started at the half way line and had to dribble the ball in and out of 4 of those traditional hammock style deckchairs - (the like of.which Terry Scott and the Carry On crew, would regularly get tangled up in, in the 70s), you then had to slot the ball into an empty net and this was done against the stop watch)

Think it was sponsored by a ferry company and the quickest person over the season would win a ferry trip from North Shields to Denmark

For those unfortunate not to witness this great genius comedy gold moment at the Vic - (must have been early Noughties under Kevin Hovercraft and IOR)

This particular week the 'contestant' was a fat uncoordinated bloke, started off ok until he got to the deckchairs and fell over at least TWICE (on a muddy pitch) before eventually putting the ball in the net. - LAUGH??? - I was nearly crying and almost soiled myself ! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

The best bit was, he was that bad, not only did the crowd erupt once he finally got his shit together and put it in the empty net- the club let him have another go, the week after! clappp


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:19 am 
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Please, no sin bins!

Why can’t they leave football alone?


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:23 am 
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They trialled the rugby model of advancing free kicks by 10 yards years ago in the case of dissent or stopping quick free kicks and it seemed to work but they abandoned it? Much better idea than sin bins.
They also trialled penalising the wrestling in the penalty areas by awarding penalties for all obvious fouls which they quickly abandoned too. Why, a foul is a foul regardless of whereabouts on the pitch it happens.
It seems they need to justify their existence by continually changing rules which is doing nothing for the game or fan experience.
Var could be used to eliminate play acting but isn't, why not use it to yellow card simulation when the ref hasn't seen it?
Goalkeepers holding onto the ball for 20 - 30 seconds is against the rules but is never penalised, foul throws are ignored, playing on when there's an obvious offside is going to lead to serious injuries and is plain stupid.


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:02 am 
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Sin bins
Var
Plastic pitches
7subs
10 mins injury time.

What shit they Gunna come out with next.


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:33 am 
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Instead of unfathomable injury time why not use the stadium clock and stop it like they do in rugby? At least that would be consistent.


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
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PTID wrote:
They trialled the rugby model of advancing free kicks by 10 yards years ago in the case of dissent or stopping quick free kicks and it seemed to work but they abandoned it? Much better idea than sin bins.
They also trialled penalising the wrestling in the penalty areas by awarding penalties for all obvious fouls which they quickly abandoned too. Why, a foul is a foul regardless of whereabouts on the pitch it happens.
It seems they need to justify their existence by continually changing rules which is doing nothing for the game or fan experience.
Var could be used to eliminate play acting but isn't, why not use it to yellow card simulation when the ref hasn't seen it?
Goalkeepers holding onto the ball for 20 - 30 seconds is against the rules but is never penalised, foul throws are ignored, playing on when there's an obvious offside is going to lead to serious injuries and is plain stupid.

question to ask yourself is as a spectacle and excitement has the game really improved over the years with all these changes in the laws we have had to suffer. there are only 17 laws of the game so why not just start with applying them first before they mess around bringing other things in.


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Sin bins
Var
Plastic pitches
7subs
10 mins injury time.

What shit they Gunna come out with next.

ban tackling.


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
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accrington fan wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Sin bins
Var
Plastic pitches
7subs
10 mins injury time.

What shit they Gunna come out with next.

ban tackling.


Ban Heading :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:50 pm 
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Stop players standing/touching the touch line when taking a free kick.
Its a foul throw, Yet can lead to a goal.

Sack the people who fiddle with the rules.


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
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Dissent has been a yellow card since cards were brought in, just apply the rules as they stand. Will VAR review every red, yellow, blue card to see if they are correct / should be uprated / downgraded. Just more complications, mistakes, and delays which will negatively impact the game (would have said fan experience but they don't give a toss for the fans). Who comes up with this shit, it won't be anyone who's a genuine fan or ex player that's for sure.


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
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What’s the order going to be sin bin, second offence yellow card then red card ?


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
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football without passion seems the name of the game for them. the authorities will kill the game off for fans and players if they carry on with all these changes especially for fans who turn up live at games. they have to remember there are far more players who play for fun as well and its not all about the premier league. packed in reffing not for my age or the players but bull shit from the fa via the local county one. if match officials got more things right and admitted to making mistakes then that would go along way in stopping a lot of dissent.


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
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Jamie1952 wrote:
What’s the order going to be sin bin, second offence yellow card then red card ?

it will depend on the offence, but 2 sin bins in a game will equal a yellow and 1 sin bin plus a yellow will equal a red. that what happens at grass roots level where its happening now, but i guess they,ll have to build a naughty step at the vic for blue card holders.


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
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accrington fan wrote:
football without passion seems the name of the game for them. the authorities will kill the game off for fans and players if they carry on with all these changes especially for fans who turn up live at games. they have to remember there are far more players who play for fun as well and its not all about the premier league. packed in reffing not for my age or the players but bull shit from the fa via the local county one. if match officials got more things right and admitted to making mistakes then that would go along way in stopping a lot of dissent.



Have any of the members of the FA ever played football or been a referee ?
It’s bit like sending some one to uni gat all the required qualifications but no practical experience.


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
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Jamie1952 wrote:
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Have any of the members of the FA ever played football or been a referee ?
It’s bit like sending some one to uni gat all the required qualifications but no practical experience.

it might help if they did but its not really that necessary. its getting them to understand the true problems faced by them and i doubt very few players or refs have ever met a FA official unless it was at a tribunal. in our lives we moan about shop assistants, people who drive for a living etc. but possibly less so if you know someone who do those jobs and understand the problems they face even if you have never done that job yourself.


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
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Would the goalie who persistently time wastes get sin binned? That I could get behind, I know they all do it but a yellow card after the third or fourth time is meaningless.


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
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In rugby a player sin binned does make a serious difference and generally the team do concede but football can getaway with playing with ten men especially for 10 minutes.


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
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Rinkender wrote:
Would the goalie who persistently time wastes get sin binned? That I could get behind, I know they all do it but a yellow card after the third or fourth time is meaningless.

usually after at least 85 minutes have been played just to avoid the chance of giving them a second one.


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
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Johnjo1 wrote:
In rugby a player sin binned does make a serious difference and generally the team do concede but football can getaway with playing with ten men especially for 10 minutes.

yes, another 10 minutes of time wasting and more cross field passing keeping hold of the ball for as long as possible to run the clock down.


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
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Rinkender wrote:
Would the goalie who persistently time wastes get sin binned? That I could get behind, I know they all do it but a yellow card after the third or fourth time is meaningless.


Now that would controversial, the ref.decides the keeper is time wasting in the last 10 minutes and sin bins him. Would they then substitute an outfield player for the keeper on the bench, when the keeper returns if there was any time would he play as an outfield player ?


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
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i,d guess joey barton will have some good views on this subject.


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 Post subject: Re: Sin bins
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Won't be long before we have drive in football stadiums. :laugh:


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