On Ready Meals, Frozen meals etc it only tells you where the food is manufactured not where the produce comes from in the food.

what about the vast majority of us who have not the money to buy a business anywhere or the ones that have no interest in working or living in the eu. think that will be the majority of us.[/quote]

Therefore the majority can dictate where some one can travel freely to live and work ?

Therefore the majority can dictate where some one can travel freely to live and work ?[/quote]

Do you mean like the EU do.
They like us to be in where they can keep an eye on us and keep us in check. They've even got the IMF trying to do it. Given that most of them are IMF members anyway, that should surprise nobody. They even tried to rubbish our vaccines simply because we were showing them up with our progress. A big lumbering bureaucratic nonsense which will eventually dissolve overnight as they disappear up their own arsehole. However anyone who loves that situation can sod off and join them anytime they like. Rule Brittania and all that. Hip Hip Hooray.
copyright derwent 2024.

Derwent you have got it all wrong about the vaccines, I assume you mean the Covid one, it would have made no difference if the U.K. had still been in the EU, it’s a misconception quoted by the Tories and Brexit supporters.

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck ... horisation

Fact check? Channel 4 ?:laugh: who laying off staff because no one watches it any more?
Which seat are you contesting in the el£ction

thats far better than how minorities are ruling our lives now everywhere you look. the EU would have been fine if it had continued just as a trading block and not wanting to get so close it could have ended up being a united states of europe.

If Labour or the Tories get elected the first thing they will do is create a trading block with the EU, none of the 2 of them dare say it as Reform U.K. will up the ante and could cost either of the 2 of them votes.
Freedom of Movement, no longer allowed but immigration is at its highest level ever but not from the EU but from other parts of the globe.

But if it’s such a wonderful idea, why would they care what Reform UK have to say.
Pull your gun out of your holster before pulling the trigger…and you won’t shoot yourself in the foot…again!

if we had still got that freedom of movement we would still have got them from the eu on top of the dinghy divers and others from non eu countries. these lot are all over the eu countries and not just in britain. fact is there are more of them in most eu countries than we have.

We were vaccinating the public before the EU even approved it. Ursula what's her face fought our vaccine tooth and nail at every corner. The EU searched for every little thing to condemn our vaccine, just like they've got the IMF doing now with our economic forecast. They can't stand being second fiddle to the Brits. They're terrified of losing more members.
Channel 4 my arse. British brains led by people like Dame Sarah Gilbert produced the vaccine. Brexit had nothing to do with it other than it allowed us to get on with it, rather than be tied down by EU politicians and bureaucracy. Maybe because Gilbert worked all the overtime and weekend hours she was capable of to speed the job up eh.

You stick to worrying where your next fresh banana is coming from.

Derwent I am not going to get into a long winded dehate about the vaccination programme, I could send you umpteen links to discredit what your saying. You need to stop watching GB News ,Talk Radio, reading the Daily Mail, Express etc and listening to what Boris Johnson, Sunak and others say about the vaccines.

Don't watch or listen or read any of those outlets nor do I listen to the persons you name. You're the one quoting TV channels and various links not me. So you've got that lot wrong as well. Do you get anything right. Instead of telling us lot what we get wrong, why not have a chat with the guy in the mirror.

The illegals wouldn’t need dinghies if we were still int EU….they’d be part of our share of the burden as EU members, no say in the matter.
Then our politicians would wave them in and look the other way.
The reason why a lot of our politicians of all Party’s voted against Brexit was because they’d have to grow a pair and accept responsibility was solely theirs….no wringing their soft hands and using the EU excuse for inaction.

Let’s call it a draw Derwent, we could go on forever about Brexit.

Shall we have a game of footy in ‘no man’s land’ then….?

Good idea Snowy but unfortunately the remoaners won't let go. If I take part in a vote I accept the result. When remoaners take part in a vote they only accept the result if they win. It is eight years almost since the referendum.

Good idea Snowy ?
No if your Party loses an election you don’t sit back for the next 5 years until the next election and say nowt.

I haven’t a Party to look back too, I’m a floater….. best deal gets my vote.

On a lighter note, if remoaners views were applied to football fans they’d still be disputing the dodgy penalty Rochdale got in 1938 that cost us two points and demand a review despite the fact it years ago.
Dog with a bone syndrome

Who has the best deal currently ?

Me and Snowy. Plus the doggies.

Oh and elections are regular and regulated, whereas referendums are random. With your vast knowledge of these matters Jamie I thought you would have known that. I did remind you that the vote was almost eight years ago. If there is ever to be another one I'll post it on here so you don't miss out.

The floating voters decide the election, the …’I voted X, me dad voted X and me Granda voted X’ folk are in the bag…but it avoids having to think logically.

Up the Reform.
We Goin on a resurgence like Pools.
Anything is possible in these mad times.

There won’t be another vote, Cameron made that mistake, it was part of his manifesto to win votes or was it for the Lib Dems demands to form a coalition thinking no way would the electorate vote leave.the U.K. The will gradually realign with Europe whether it’s by the Tories, Labour or who ever is in power.

can see reform breaking some record in the election by the party who got the most votes in history without getting a single candidate elected.

U.K. Independence Party hold the record for that currently but all they do is split the vote.

then its about time for some form of electoral reform where your vote really counts. really its pointless now leaving the house in a constituency thats going to a landslidevote for one of the big two or you support any small party.

No one knows whether there will be another vote or not, not even you.
The reason the politicians behind the referendum thinking that no way would people vote out was because they were out of touch with the mood of the people. A common trend these days and they are still failing to realise just how much they are out of touch.
As for realignment we can neither rule it in or rule it out. It depends on the detail and nature of what is proposed. If it ever appears on the table I shall give it a good coat of looking at and and vote accordingly.

Thus making a valid claim for proportional representation.

Should have been introduced years ago, I read there had been a referendum years ago but the public voted against it, anyone remember it.

No. But if the public voted against it, that's probably why it wasn't introduced.

What I asked does anyone remember the referendum on proportional representation ?

Yes Jamie I know what you asked and My answer was NO, meaning I don't remember it.

I did a bit of research the vote was on the same day as the local council elections,Thursday the 5th of May 2011, where this normally a very low turn out of the elections.

So you were asking a question to set yourself up to answer yourself…

I would have thought some of the old timers on here would have remembered with out me having to Google it, obviously not.

plus if i remember correctly it was not just a simple yes or no vote for PR but sounded quite complicated to the point where many in favour of it never bothered to vote one way or the other. bullshit baffles brains again.

Maybe the old timers have better things to do than store useless information that can be easily referenced….it’s not hard to find out. Jeez.
It’s always a burning topic when we go out for a meet up

I would have thought that you would have remembered it without having to google it, obviously not. A classic case of the pot calling the kettle grimy arse. However you are in the best company possible if you're as forgetful as the old timers.