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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:10 pm 
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In the Raby Arms yesterday for a meet up and for some bizarre reason the talk got round to gardening (of no interest to me whatsoever) and the ‘professionals’ were talking about the wet weather and got around to talking about lawns(zzzzzz) them my ears pricked up when they agreed that the wet weather since October has been a nightmare and making maintaining them a real problem, then it got technical(zzzzz) but it could explain Pool’s playing surface.

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Football pitches have improved dramatically from the old mudbath days but too much or not enough of the essential conditions for the perfect lawn will disturb the process. We've had an extraordinary amount of rainfall to cope with in recent months and whereas not enough rainfall can be rectified artificially by watering, too much poses a bigger problem.
I remember a few years back when the experts forecasted that the water tables would never recover. Howver Mother Nature sorted the problem but even she gets carried away at times. :laugh:

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Snowy wrote:
In the Raby Arms yesterday for a meet up and for some bizarre reason the talk got round to gardening (of no interest to me whatsoever) and the ‘professionals’ were talking about the wet weather and got around to talking about lawns(zzzzzz) them my ears pricked up when they agreed that the wet weather since October has been a nightmare and making maintaining them a real problem, then it got technical(zzzzz) but it could explain Pool’s playing surface.


Nope. Some bloke on Facebook was saying he has it on good authority that Raj is there every morning pouring weedkiller in the goal mouths. So I know what I believe.


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In the Raby Arms yesterday for a meet up and for some bizarre reason the talk got round to gardening (of no interest to me whatsoever) and the ‘professionals’ were talking about the wet weather and got around to talking about lawns(zzzzzz) them my ears pricked up when they agreed that the wet weather since October has been a nightmare and making maintaining them a real problem, then it got technical(zzzzz) but it could explain Pool’s playing surface.


Nope. Some bloke on Facebook was saying he has it on good authority that Raj is there every morning pouring weedkiller in the goal mouths. So I know what I believe.


Ah I didn't know that, is it in his three year plan??? Must have missed that. But if some bloke on facebook said it, it must be true.

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Snowy wrote:
In the Raby Arms yesterday for a meet up and for some bizarre reason the talk got round to gardening (of no interest to me whatsoever) and the ‘professionals’ were talking about the wet weather and got around to talking about lawns(zzzzzz) them my ears pricked up when they agreed that the wet weather since October has been a nightmare and making maintaining them a real problem, then it got technical(zzzzz) but it could explain Pool’s playing surface.


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The playing surface during the winter has been a shambles since IOR left. The groundsman who’s won multiple awards in the past obviously hasn’t had investment and resources that he did back in those days. Got naff all to do with this years harsh winter! It’s been shocking for at least 8 years


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
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In the Raby Arms yesterday for a meet up and for some bizarre reason the talk got round to gardening (of no interest to me whatsoever) and the ‘professionals’ were talking about the wet weather and got around to talking about lawns(zzzzzz) them my ears pricked up when they agreed that the wet weather since October has been a nightmare and making maintaining them a real problem, then it got technical(zzzzz) but it could explain Pool’s playing surface.


Nope. Some bloke on Facebook was saying he has it on good authority that Raj is there every morning pouring weedkiller in the goal mouths. So I know what I believe.

Don’t forget the Anthrax spores. :laugh:

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Micky fisher ate my socks too wrote:
The playing surface during the winter has been a shambles since IOR left. The groundsman who’s won multiple awards in the past obviously hasn’t had investment and resources that he did back in those days. Got naff all to do with this years harsh winter! It’s been shocking for at least 8 years

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The York City manager said the ‘the pitch didn’t help’ in his post match interview, was it that bad ?


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The York City manager said the ‘the pitch didn’t help’ in his post match interview, was it that bad ?

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The York City manager said the ‘the pitch didn’t help’ in his post match interview, was it that bad ?
The pitch was bad, cutting up quite a bit & worse than it's been for a long time. Having said that, as the old saying goes " it's the same for both sides ". Just thought we had more desire for a scrap than the opposition.


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The York City manager said the ‘the pitch didn’t help’ in his post match interview, was it that bad ?
The pitch was bad, cutting up quite a bit & worse than it's been for a long time. Having said that, as the old saying goes " it's the same for both sides ". Just thought we had more desire for a scrap than the opposition.


I wonder if the pitch has something to do with the amount of injuries we get? Never known us to ever have so much bad luck with injuries.


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I presume those complaining about the pitch don't have gardens themselves?
The area is inundated with waterlogged lawns, gardens, community football pitches and other sports grounds. The problem when it is so wet is the best thing to do is to stay off it and wait for drier weather so you can get back on it and tend to it. Yes the pitch is cutting up very badly and that's with just blokes running around on it, can you imagine what heavy machinery would do to it?
I suppose though, having brought a new manager, new players, and then getting a win there'd have to be another complaint about the way Raj is running the club. For me I wish he'd put some decent hand dryers in the toilets on the MH side, shambolic mismanagement of a football club when you have to dry your hands on your coat. Sort it out Raj, after you've stopped the rain that is.


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I presume those complaining about the pitch don't have gardens themselves?
The area is inundated with waterlogged lawns, gardens, community football pitches and other sports grounds. The problem when it is so wet is the best thing to do is to stay off it and wait for drier weather so you can get back on it and tend to it. Yes the pitch is cutting up very badly and that's with just blokes running around on it, can you imagine what heavy machinery would do to it?
I suppose though, having brought a new manager, new players, and then getting a win there'd have to be another complaint about the way Raj is running the club. For me I wish he'd put some decent hand dryers in the toilets on the MH side, shambolic mismanagement of a football club when you have to dry your hands on your coat. Sort it out Raj, after you've stopped the rain that is.


Its other managers complaining about our pitch, i presume we never had bad weather in the previous years?


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Raby Arms.
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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I presume those complaining about the pitch don't have gardens themselves?
The area is inundated with waterlogged lawns, gardens, community football pitches and other sports grounds. The problem when it is so wet is the best thing to do is to stay off it and wait for drier weather so you can get back on it and tend to it. Yes the pitch is cutting up very badly and that's with just blokes running around on it, can you imagine what heavy machinery would do to it?
I suppose though, having brought a new manager, new players, and then getting a win there'd have to be another complaint about the way Raj is running the club. For me I wish he'd put some decent hand dryers in the toilets on the MH side, shambolic mismanagement of a football club when you have to dry your hands on your coat. Sort it out Raj, after you've stopped the rain that is.


Its other managers complaining about our pitch, i presume we never had bad weather in the previous years?



I would think KP will be looking at the playing surface and probably be far from happy with it, it is what it is at this time of year. The big clubs can afford to relay their playing surfaces mid season but I can imagine it’s very expensive to do so.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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I presume those complaining about the pitch don't have gardens themselves?
The area is inundated with waterlogged lawns, gardens, community football pitches and other sports grounds. The problem when it is so wet is the best thing to do is to stay off it and wait for drier weather so you can get back on it and tend to it. Yes the pitch is cutting up very badly and that's with just blokes running around on it, can you imagine what heavy machinery would do to it?
I suppose though, having brought a new manager, new players, and then getting a win there'd have to be another complaint about the way Raj is running the club. For me I wish he'd put some decent hand dryers in the toilets on the MH side, shambolic mismanagement of a football club when you have to dry your hands on your coat. Sort it out Raj, after you've stopped the rain that is.


Its other managers complaining about our pitch, i presume we never had bad weather in the previous years?



I would think KP will be looking at the playing surface and probably be far from happy with it, it is what it is at this time of year. The big clubs can afford to relay their playing surfaces mid season but I can imagine it’s very expensive to do so.


I used to prefer watching pools on mudbaths anyway, never did us any harm under Cyril knowles.


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Of course we've had bad weather in the past, but in nearly 70 years I can't remember a winter as sustainably wet as this can you?
I'm sure KP isn't happy about the state of the itch either, but it's not unusual for an away manager to complain about the pitch after a defeat is it? Did you see the state of Ebbsfleets pitch by the way?

There's always a snippet to raise a gripe about isn't there, it's like a resurrection of Victor Meldrew.


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Of course we've had bad weather in the past, but in nearly 70 years I can't remember a winter as sustainably wet as this can you?
I'm sure KP isn't happy about the state of the itch either, but it's not unusual for an away manager to complain about the pitch after a defeat is it? Did you see the state of Ebbsfleets pitch by the way?

There's always a snippet to raise a gripe about isn't there, it's like a resurrection of Victor Meldrew.


Like i will say once again its away managers complaining about our pitch.


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Raby Arms.
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F*ck away managers.

They have to complain about something.
Let’s hope every manager says it after every game this season.

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A bit of perspective on the weather, October was the wettest on record, November was 4th or 5th wettest, December also 4th or 5th, with many places seeing more than double the average rainfall for the 3 consecutive months.
So surely nobody can claim its not been exceptionally wet, also the reason why potatoes are being left in the ground to rot.

Have you ever watched racing on TV? Compare Royal Ascot say when it's been hot and the ground is hardly bruised by the horses at full speed to the same track when it's raining Ed hard for even a few days and the ground goes to soft, the horses struggle to get through it throwing up large divots and within a few races it's just a muddy mess. Same earth, different t conditions caused by nature not lack of investment.


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Micky fisher ate my socks too wrote:
The playing surface during the winter has been a shambles since IOR left. The groundsman who’s won multiple awards in the past obviously hasn’t had investment and resources that he did back in those days. Got naff all to do with this years harsh winter! It’s been shocking for at least 8 years

its been far worse since it was dug up and re grassed and that was before we got all the rain. once the vic had an excellent playing surface but like a lot of things those days are gone.


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PTID wrote:
A bit of perspective on the weather, October was the wettest on record, November was 4th or 5th wettest, December also 4th or 5th, with many places seeing more than double the average rainfall for the 3 consecutive months.
So surely nobody can claim its not been exceptionally wet, also the reason why potatoes are being left in the ground to rot.

Have you ever watched racing on TV? Compare Royal Ascot say when it's been hot and the ground is hardly bruised by the horses at full speed to the same track when it's raining Ed hard for even a few days and the ground goes to soft, the horses struggle to get through it throwing up large divots and within a few races it's just a muddy mess. Same earth, different t conditions caused by nature not lack of investment.


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[quote="PTID"]A bit of perspective on the weather, October was the wettest on record, November was 4th or 5th wettest, December also 4th or 5th, with many places seeing more than double the average rainfall for the 3 consecutive months.
So surely nobody can claim its not been exceptionally wet, also the reason why potatoes are being left in the ground to rot.

sounds as if you are a farmer where its always either too cold, hot, dry or wet and never the ideal weather. since when as this country ever had the ideal weather for growing anything but weeds.


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If it wasn’t the pitch it would be the catering, floodlights, it happens when we win, have to moan about something to keep the hum in the background going.

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Hand dryers, I've told you they're abysmal.


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Dont know what people are moaning for the play offs are back on.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Dont know what people are moaning for the play offs are back on.


Same number of points from a relegation spot though.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Dont know what people are moaning for the play offs are back on.


Same number of points from a relegation spot though.


We are going to piss this league now. How many points do we need to catch Chesterfield?


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Dont know what people are moaning for the play offs are back on.

Ok …. keep still, lay down and I ‘ll phone for the Air Ambulance, you are obviously not well. :shock:

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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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Dont know what people are moaning for the play offs are back on.


Same number of points from a relegation spot though.


We are going to piss this league now. How many points do we need to catch Chesterfield?

Shit, it’s spreading bbolt

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Just watching Newport what’s happened to their pitch. Was probably the worst in the league but looks ok even got grass on it.


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PTID wrote:
Of course we've had bad weather in the past, but in nearly 70 years I can't remember a winter as sustainably wet as this can you?
I'm sure KP isn't happy about the state of the itch either, but it's not unusual for an away manager to complain about the pitch after a defeat is it? Did you see the state of Ebbsfleets pitch by the way?

There's always a snippet to raise a gripe about isn't there, it's like a resurrection of Victor Meldrew.


Ebbsfleet had covered the entire pitch and got the game on when other games in the London area were off due to frost. The pitch looked ok to me for mid winter and even the goal areas were well grassed.

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Just watching Newport what’s happened to their pitch. Was probably the worst in the league but looks ok even got grass on it.

Because it’s not the same pitch in the same ground, they moved to the the new ‘Community Stadium’.

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Its Rodney Parade which they share with Newport Gwent Dragons rugby team I guess they have had it relaid since the bad old days.


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Its Rodney Parade which they share with Newport Gwent Dragons rugby team I guess they have had it relaid since the bad old days.

Remember our season sharing with West, the pitch looked like the aftermath of a tractor test track’s busy day at work.

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There's a field just outside our village that has had standing water on it for months, It rained last night and has turned into a lake and is encroaching on to the main road. Hundreds of birds and a few ducks on it this morning when I drove past. It will be classed as official wetland shortly. Everywhere you look standing water is not draining away at the moment. We were on the A1 yesterday, loads of soggy fields apparent as well. When the potholes are full of water you have no idea how deep they are, Bloody nightmare negotiating them in these conditions.

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There's a field just outside our village that has had standing water on it for months, It rained last night and has turned into a lake and is encroaching on to the main road. Hundreds of birds and a few ducks on it this morning when I drove past. It will be classed as official wetland shortly. Everywhere you look standing water is not draining away at the moment. We were on the A1 yesterday, loads of soggy fields apparent as well. When the potholes are full of water you have no idea how deep they are, Bloody nightmare negotiating them in these conditions.


If this global warming continues don't rule out hippos n crocodiles living in the Yorkshire Wetlands. :lol:


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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The York City manager said the ‘the pitch didn’t help’ in his post match interview, was it that bad ?
The pitch was bad, cutting up quite a bit & worse than it's been for a long time. Having said that, as the old saying goes " it's the same for both sides ". Just thought we had more desire for a scrap than the opposition.


I wonder if the pitch has something to do with the amount of injuries we get? Never known us to ever have so much bad luck with injuries.


Maybe training on Astro does not help.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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I presume those complaining about the pitch don't have gardens themselves?
The area is inundated with waterlogged lawns, gardens, community football pitches and other sports grounds. The problem when it is so wet is the best thing to do is to stay off it and wait for drier weather so you can get back on it and tend to it. Yes the pitch is cutting up very badly and that's with just blokes running around on it, can you imagine what heavy machinery would do to it?
I suppose though, having brought a new manager, new players, and then getting a win there'd have to be another complaint about the way Raj is running the club. For me I wish he'd put some decent hand dryers in the toilets on the MH side, shambolic mismanagement of a football club when you have to dry your hands on your coat. Sort it out Raj, after you've stopped the rain that is.


Its other managers complaining about our pitch, i presume we never had bad weather in the previous years?



I would think KP will be looking at the playing surface and probably be far from happy with it, it is what it is at this time of year. The big clubs can afford to relay their playing surfaces mid season but I can imagine it’s very expensive to do so.


Think he may have played on worse in his time.


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There's a field just outside our village that has had standing water on it for months, It rained last night and has turned into a lake and is encroaching on to the main road. Hundreds of birds and a few ducks on it this morning when I drove past. It will be classed as official wetland shortly. Everywhere you look standing water is not draining away at the moment. We were on the A1 yesterday, loads of soggy fields apparent as well. When the potholes are full of water you have no idea how deep they are, Bloody nightmare negotiating them in these conditions.


If this global warming continues don't rule out hippos n crocodiles living in the Yorkshire Wetlands. :lol:


I think they are here already.......in disguise. :laugh:

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Joking apart and listening to those who know. The pitch at the Vic needs a longer recovery period between the last game in one season and the first in the next. Last season the break was less than five weeks due to school finals, "Play on the Pitch" etc... In my opinion, it's also relevant that it hasn't been dug up and relaid for a few years now.


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