Please stop trying to be sensible and let the children play their game.
If they want to believe there are millions swishing about let them.
Meanwhile in the real world.................................

Good nite.
God bless.
You losers gagging for this brutal regime to continue get the club you deserve.
Congratulations.
Rip. HUFC.

In the real world we get new corner flags and get humilated by Kidderminster Harriers. I would believe fellow poolies, HUST, before I believe good old hollow promises, fireside bull**** pusher.

We’ve lost out on Wrexham’s owners, Carlisle’s owners and now this due to 1 man

So why don't they give Raj what he wants, clear the debt and get cracking on the road to making us European champions. A major international investment company. The clue is in the name. Investment companies exist to make money not throw it away on projects where there is no chance of getting their money back.
Investments are made to make a return so can any of the silly buggers clutching on these fantasy straws outline any sort of investment plan that would yield a decent return on any sort of investment in Hartlepool united.
Giving the fans false hopes is nothing short of cruel and the people doing it ought to be ashamed of themselves. If you've got access to these millions and are keen to take over the club the answer is simple. get on with it or shut up.

Typivcal blame shifting. What the hell motivates you to defend this guy who has got us at such a low ebb as a club? Can he never now do any wrong in his lifetime? Its just weird. Its crazy. How much lower do we have to slide? NLN? Lower? It'll still be someone else's fault even then I suspect, and anyone who approaches the club to buy it will be no good unless Lord Raj approves of them, they pay his ridiculous price, inherit all his debt, ignore not seeing detailed accounts, submit their family tree and publish on the bunker copies of all back accounts, assets and liabilities.

FSG bought Liverpool for £300 million

They're now worth £3 billion

Why?

Investment in the ground, the club, the team

Then the value increases

We've an owner who has stripped the club bare, watched them fall down the league, allowed the pitch to become a potato patch and he wants his money back?

Get to f*#k

I just hope the consortium are still about when this cowboy rides out of his town.

Am
Assuming they aren’t super super rich so any
Money they give to Raj means less to pools, ultimately it is what it is now, but Raj would do himself some favors with more transparency,

The Messiahs fan club is getting smaller by the minute.
Plenty who showed him leniency have finally woke up and smelt the coffee.


Still hope this consortium come back when the inevitable happens.

Surely if they got tens of millions to spend then if they want the club they'd have the club?
Not a fan of what's happened at the club, or of RS, but I'm sure his asking price will be a very small proportion of the cash they say they've got.
The bottom line is that whatever asset someone owns, they set the terms and conditions of a sale. The mega wealthy consortium can't or won't meet his demands so the ball is quite firmly in his court. Anyone on here demanding he write off what he is owed really needs to put themselves in his shoes and ask themselves what would they do.

As for any demo at the game tomorrow, I'd be surprised if RS is there to see and hear it.

The consortium claim that they didn't have access to detailed accounts in order to build a business plan. Yet they made 2 serious offers - unbelievable that credible international investors would be willing to invest without full access to detailed accounts or didn't have a business plan to support their investment.

Mr PTID how dare you suggest that this "major international investment company" lacks credibility?
According to the latest HUST press release they have £14 million to invest in Pools AND are "socially conscious".. so what's not to like?
Unbelievable?... come on mate show some respect.
Perhaps you need to re-educate yourself?
This lady explains what it is all about...try not to be too distracted by the pink hair..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB_ex1ULXFU

Do the consortium have the £14m, or ‘access’ to the money or part thereof.
I would consider investing in Pools or any lower league club not a road any investor hoping for a good return or any return based on a purely financial basis… a rare find indeed.
I get the feeling if Coxall returned next week with another offer there’s some on here whose obsession with Raj is so far gone they’d back it.

So after watching that clip, am I safe to assume the investors are the ‘Victoria Park Liberation Front and Ethical Building Society?

Possibly...I hear they have offices in London and Dubai.. and.. Loads a Money...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULeDlxa3gyc

You’ve had the answer all the time and kept it to yourself
It’s so straightforward, you spray money with gay abandon on the club, the team, the ground and Uncle Tom Cobblers.
Are you for real…the only thing that has in relation to us is the fact that both teams end in ‘Pool’.

Stripped the club bare? That had already been done by the previous owners, there was nothing of value left.
Potato patch pitch? Did you see the state of Ebbsfleets last week, ours looks like Wimbledon Centre Court by comparison. Besides which tending sports grounds over this winter has been hugely problematic due to the sustained wet weather.
Wants his money back? How dare he ask for loans made by him with his own money ask for it to be paid back? He's a businessman not a benefactor.

Please explain...
1. Stripped the club bare?
2. Potato patch?

What were you expecting!
13 million to Raj.
1 million to refurbishment of this mess.

I see pooie1/other aliais back.

What did I expect? In terms of actual details of asking price or offer, I expected nothing because much as I'd like to know those things as I'm not entitled to know them. I'm not buying or selling anything am I.
Regarding the proposed takeover I was hoping that an agreement would be reached and new owners with a genuine affinity to the club and desire to move us forward would be in place ssooner rather than later. Has Raj asked for 13 million, first I've heard? There seems to be lots of figures being bandied about so I would imagine by the law of probabilities someone will be fairly close to the truth but I'd be surprised if the price to buy and clear the debt would take up very much of the figure you're talking.

You should of known raj was going nowhere with the return of poolie 1.

First of all the same believed their was interest in the club. Then when that was blown out of the water, they couldnt meet rajs proof of funds, that gets blown out of the water, so what next lets question where the 14 million is coming from? Its none of your business, if they say they have it you have to take their word. Im sure if we ask raj where he is now going to get the money to turn this club round, we would get the same reply. The end of the day the club us an utter mess, its going to stay that way for a very long time now, if it survives once the football league money has gone. Signing two players can con some of the fan base for so long, especially when you have released half a team in the last month, but it wont fool the vast majority.

The thing is a lot defended coxall i got hammered on here for suggesting something wasnt right about him some of the same people then outed him on here. Think the difference with this approach is they have a connection to pools not some cockney chancer.

They'd rather believe old Mr hollow promises himself.

He has held back budgets twice now lol you couldnt make it up, what next sorry kevin the cooker in doris cafe at maiden castle aint working im going to have to hold that back too until you can fix it., i will release it though when your sacked.

We signed a lad the other week scored about 20 goals in 7 years, this lad is expected to turn us
around, that is the strength of our signings under
this man for 2 years, things aint going to change much.

And they've been brought together by normal poolies, the people who are in the stands up and down the country just like everyone else every single week. Couldn't be much less Coxallesque. I don't know when we are going to get a better chance at non dodgey owners. If these don't fit the criteria then this club is never going to change hands every again. Unless it is to utter mugs who play Rajs games and dance to his tunes. Then fans will still moan bevause how could the club possibly be owned by anyone other than the great one?

So where is the full accounts? Whats their to hide? For future consortiums individuals, if these invisible accounts are never going to be produced.

What are you hiding raj, produce the accounts.

Not at all Mr Imp - it's better the devil you know and there are so many cracks on both sides of this argument from the Trust and Raj.. until it all comes out over time nobody knows

If we were in the premier league with raj now, the value of the club would be astronomical, so why do they expect him to get a cracking deal sat on the verge of the conference north?

We had fans questioning the wrexham owners so what chance have we got? It will all end in tears? Well it aint going to bad so far. We might as well face it and just never get taken over by anyone.

just totally lost for words over this. way i see it so many just want raj out of this club no matter what. 14 million available to spend. would that be it or would be topped up in time from their own funds or once thats gone are we back to square one. we talk in hundreds and only thousands are mentioned if we are buying cars or houses. football teams talk in millions and if they wanted rink end development a big chunk of that 14 million would be gone on that. if only pools were a selling club where we obtained big transfer fees for players. really who was the last we sold for some substantial fee. where will all this eventually end for us and the club which is far more important than the personalities involved.

If we were in the premier league now it would be because raj had taken us there and you'd still be hounding him. Boom Boom

Thing is though he cant take us to top 10 of conference, what he has done and he needs applauding for it, is that any micky mouse side that rolls into town can win here now and it makes their day.

Exactly.
Like Hartlepudlians are going to have the bollocks to rip off there Own Club.

Raj doesn't want any money up front. He wants the debt owed to his group paid back but is willing to only trigger that IF the club show a profit or unbudgeted windfalls from cup games and transfers. Hust have allegedly placed around £600k with the solicitors. An investment company allegedly are willing to put up £14m. So the consortium don't have to put up a penny of the debt owed to Raj up front and will only pay off the debt if they have it. Where is the problem in doing that deal.
I'd snatch the owners hand off for a deal like that. £14.6 million in the kitty and no up front dent in it.
Now on to this £14m investment.
Before I got carried away with this I would want some detail on it. Like for instance is it a loan and if so is it to be paid back. Will it be interest bearing and at what rate. Are there penalties attached to cover default on the payments.
People are citing the debt the club are burdened with. It is nowhere near what the debt would be if the £14m is under loan conditions.
On top of all that not only have the consortium shunned a most favourable way of getting the club under equally favourable terms, without having to put a penny on the table but also, if this injection of £14m is genuine they won't get that either. They've made two offers without seeing the accounts, their sugar daddy has allegedly offered to chuck £14 million in the tin without seeing the accounts. Don't sound as if either of them is vying for the title of the brightest buttons in the box does it.
And the people drooling all over these riches are accusing the rest of being gullible.
Yeah right.
With all this wealth splashing about I wonder why Goffy backed off.
I think a good pinch from the salt cellar is in order.
The words Investment company and chuck money away very rarely appear in the same sentence. The investment company obviously don't want to own the club but are happy to provide some other mug with the debt to achieve that. The club have no assets or collateral so who would want to risk £14m without, so far, knowing any hidden conditions. The club have no collateral. Will the collateral come from the consortium or Hust. One of the quickest ways to personal ruin I've come across. Obviously if the £14m is a gift
I've got a little card game I would like to show you. It's quite easy to play as there are only three cards involved. The only condition of entry to the game is you have to have a bundle of money.

Exactly.
Like Hartlepudlians are going to have the bollocks to rip off there Own Club.[/quote]
hope you are not that nieve and buy things unseen just because the seller is a hartlepudlian. there are rogues everywhere and i,m sure there are as many from the town as anywhere else.

Never a truer word spoken Mr Derwent.
And wonder what this major international investment company's connection to the town is?
Is this the same HUST consortium investor that specialises in loans to distressed businesses?
So many unanswered questions.
But for the moment who cares ...lets see if Waterfall makes a difference tomorrow

So Raj turned down £2 million from the pair who eventually took over Wrexham and he's turned down " £14 million" so how much is he expecting to get? forgive me if these facts and figures are incorrect, just going on what Iv'e read and heard on the grape vine.

ive read a completely different take on this, Raj wanted 2mill.. they didn't disclose their identity so went to Wrexham and purchased them from their trust for a £1

In my experience any investor would be highly unlikely to invest in a loose consortium with no track record of working together, irrespective of who they are. Equally, no experienced investor, and certainly not one with an alleged £14million, would plough that sort of money into a club with no owned property, no real football assets other than the licence to operate in a restricted world, and a history of over a century of general failure with only the most sporadic success. Clearly these investors don’t want to own our club but want to saddle us with more debt but secured on what?
The issue of the accounts is another matter. The Consortium seemed to know enough the make offers and issue a public ultimatum. What if Raj had given them the accounts ten days ago and had subsequently committed at least a quarter of a million over the next two years on a new manager and a couple of new players. The £600k in the Consortium pot would be looking pretty meagre right now.
Businesses rightly keep their management accounts under close protection until any proposed offer reaches some kind of in principle stage. Latest statutory accounts are publicly available. The Consortium I’m assuming didn’t reach that stage.
I’m not any kind of apologist for Raj but I can see why he would be frustrated by trying to do a deal with this Consortium, especially now they are throwing out £14m, or is it £16m, or both, sound bites.
Let’s get behind the team tomorrow.

Is this the same Chairman, that has made us a laughing stock in this league, Same Chairman that said he has had no interest, despite even the wrexham owners saying we were one of quite a few clubs they were interested in.
Is this the same Chairman who claims held back daveChallonors budget, then blamed the club being up for sale for not signing players this year.
Same chairman who says he wants out but wont show the full accounts?

Same Chairman that has said has been totally upfront, yet wont disclose the mose important thing, same Chairman told us we were almost self sufficient not so many moons back, same chairman now telling us well can pay the debt back when we win a few cup games.

This same Chairman probobly needs to get his story straight.

Says he's really BUSY right now...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/y0_ElEL3jes

Thats what needs to Happen Kevin.

Enter into more talks (for what its worth), But have patience.
If the club has to go into Admin then so be it.
Then they won,t have to spend a penny (almost)
An administrator will snap their hands off.

Raj is good though, Hes now got fans ridiculing one another.
We as Supporters need to get behind the team.

If hes changed mind and now decided to back the club, i suggest we all get behind the team until a time the trust is needed?

Call to arms from KP...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0h799jx

Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah

We're not discussing the chairman, we're questioning the nature and detail of this alleged £14 million that has suddenly been chucked on the table. I know you can't help hounding raj at every turn but try and keep up. Why would anyone even consider publishing detail of their business activities to you or even at your request. If you want to do some amateur detective work, get the exact detail of this £14 million bounty that's appeared from nowhere and ask Hust to publish the exact detail of their alleged offers. Do something useful for a change instead of spouting the same old bile day in and day out. I've never known anybody with only one record in their collection until you turned up. Have the neighbours not said anything yet.

At the end of the day it's the same chairman that rescued us.
The same that got us promoted.
The same that has never recruited players.
The same that has never picked the team.
The same that has never given the team instructions before or at halftime during a match. And never made a substitution.
The same that doesn't even go to some games.

But the bottom line is its on the pitch that matters, and it looks like we're trying to improve things on the pitch. Whatever goes on in the background is unlikely to influence things on the pitch other than some players will be rightly nervous about their futures - although it might jolt some into improving their performances.

Why are you interested in the 14 million its none of our business. Ask Hust if you want to know where its come from.