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 Post subject: Let’s hope Phillips has a proper plan
PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:05 pm 
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So sick of the none joined up thinking

Perfect example, one of our better paid players Cooke

Good footballer at this level and can pick a pass etc, but can’t run to save his life and struggles when pressured, so…
First question is, is he good enough to build your midfield around as he needs to play with players who can help do his running for him, I would say no, but the fact we have him, then don’t play him in a midfield that can complement him
Is a recipe for failure, him feather, Wallace all on
The books is a great example of no real planning

We had Aygemang on loan who at least had some physicality and energy and we binned him off

Whatever Philips does I want to see a plan and not just a bunch of players thrown together, it’s not too much to ask


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Wallace was signed when Feaths was off the books as I recall then Feaths came back when every bugger was injured and we were desperate so not so much bad planning, more circumstances. Even now, Cooke seems to always be injured although he plays through it which is not ideal. Crawford similar but not so acute. I agree Featherstone and Wallace should not both play because teams with pace will cause us problems. Phillips has a major job on his hands sorting out this mess.


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Tactics cost us the game last night - timing and personal when subs used also ... very bad.

I just hope that he is as brutal as he says he is - but its okay binning off the lads we have if someone is willing to take them and then get their better replacements in. which is easier said that done. (especially with our resources and location).

If this consortium have some cash its going to still take seasons to get a really good promotion winning side together. Stockport and Wrexham are proof of that. Unfortunately you cant just gather 11 very good players over night and expect them to win the league !

We all know a full reshuffle is needed and no doubt will be thrust upon us as thankfully quite alot of contracts are due.
Again id start from the back and bring in a new No1. Follow that with RB and LB and another CB for good measure.
Mancini and Mani D are probably the only other players worth keeping in this side just now. Id probs keep Feaths as a coach tbh aswell.


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I don’t see mani D or Mancini being around
Next year, they will go to league clubs or more ambitious conference sides


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Eiphos_3 wrote:
Tactics cost us the game last night - timing and personal when subs used also ... very bad.

I just hope that he is as brutal as he says he is - but its okay binning off the lads we have if someone is willing to take them and then get their better replacements in. which is easier said that done. (especially with our resources and location).

If this consortium have some cash its going to still take seasons to get a really good promotion winning side together. Stockport and Wrexham are proof of that. Unfortunately you cant just gather 11 very good players over night and expect them to win the league !

We all know a full reshuffle is needed and no doubt will be thrust upon us as thankfully quite alot of contracts are due.
Again id start from the back and bring in a new No1. Follow that with RB and LB and another CB for good measure.
Mancini and Mani D are probably the only other players worth keeping in this side just now. Id probs keep Feaths as a coach tbh aswell.


So you dont rate Parkes?


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Listened to KPs post match on youtube.

To me he put a face on, But was raging underneath.
The signs are there, Players beware!


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Grayhoundend wrote:
Listened to KPs post match on youtube.

To me he put a face on, But was raging underneath.
The signs are there, Players beware!


I liked the bit where when talking about the Kiddy goal he said "I still dont know how that ball got into our box". Sounds like someone is going to get a right bollocking.


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I didn’t like how he talked about not following up the performance on Saturday, let’s be honest both performances were equally shite
Sat was lit up by Mancini yday was shit on by Dixon

But the actual performances both games against shite opposition were very poor


So far he is coming across as cliche man, obviously interviews aren’t the best way to judge a manager


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
Listened to KPs post match on youtube.

To me he put a face on, But was raging underneath.
The signs are there, Players beware!


I liked the bit where when talking about the Kiddy goal he said "I still dont know how that ball got into our box". Sounds like someone is going to get a right bollocking.



Same as it has most of the season, But Sweens and LL maybe thought its ok.


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I didn’t like how he talked about not following up the performance on Saturday, let’s be honest both performances were equally shite
Sat was lit up by Mancini yday was shit on by Dixon

But the actual performances both games against shite opposition were very poor


So far he is coming across as cliche man, obviously interviews aren’t the best way to judge a manager


Funny we never see writen on the Bunker cliches. :laugh:


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Mancini was a revelation before his injury let’s see if he can reproduce that form when he regains full fitness.


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Grayhoundend wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
Listened to KPs post match on youtube.

To me he put a face on, But was raging underneath.
The signs are there, Players beware!


I liked the bit where when talking about the Kiddy goal he said "I still dont know how that ball got into our box". Sounds like someone is going to get a right bollocking.



Same as it has most of the season, But Sweens and LL maybe thought its ok.


I just thought KP was being slightly sarcastic. Rightly so.


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He's dead right about the cross, no closing down and the 1st defended deliberately ducked under it which caught Dixon who had a decent game overall out.


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loyal_fan wrote:
I didn’t like how he talked about not following up the performance on Saturday, let’s be honest both performances were equally shite
Sat was lit up by Mancini yday was shit on by Dixon


You really do have a problem with any keeper that isn’t Killip.
It’s beyond parody. :roll:

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Come on Snowy, it’s obvious both of the keepers we brought in are of a lower standard than the one that went out
I thought the lad we had on loan from Leicester last year was an
Improvement, but these two jokers are abysmal.


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He's dead right about the cross, no closing down and the 1st defended deliberately ducked under it which caught Dixon who had a decent game overall out.


How are you defining a decent game ?
A standard save or two

A complete fuck up in first minute that almost cost a goal
Arsing around on a through ball so mani o had to give away a corner
Shite distribution
Awful keeping for the goal


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Come on Snowy, it’s obvious both of the keepers we brought in are of a lower standard than the one that went out
I thought the lad we had on loan from Leicester last year was an
Improvement, but these two jokers are abysmal.

We haven’t had decent keeper since Carson….end of.

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Killing wasn't a patch on Carson, Loach, Flinders, to name a few. These 2 aren't brilliant but conceding goals isn't necessarily down to the keeper everything. The defenders didn't do there job last night which led to their goal.


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I hope Phillips stresses the need for fitness and movement.
Getting caught in possession is usually caused by not having options to pass and is imo the reason there are so many injuries at our level. Players must make themselves available which requires fitness and physical effort.

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I hope Phillips stresses the need for fitness and movement.
Getting caught in possession is usually caused by not having options to pass and is imo the reason there are so many injuries at our level. Players must make themselves available which requires fitness and physical effort.


Wasn't fitness and speed of moment the main points behind our early season form, well for 5 matches and about 20 minutes of the 6th.

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Crawford's last two free kicks have been laughably bad, not tested the keeper and pulled wide, I mean the basic is to get it on target..jeez. Mind Mancini hit the wall with his effort too. No footballing brains this lot, at the end of the day you can't keep waiting for this lot to improve when they consistently get worse. My patience with them has gone, they just clearly are not good enough.

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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Wallace was signed when Feaths was off the books as I recall then Feaths came back when every bugger was injured and we were desperate so not so much bad planning, more circumstances. Even now, Cooke seems to always be injured although he plays through it which is not ideal. Crawford similar but not so acute. I agree Featherstone and Wallace should not both play because teams with pace will cause us problems. Phillips has a major job on his hands sorting out this mess.

plus getting the players to be less irratic in their displays from one game to another. everyone has an off game but not in alternate matches.


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KP needs to look at the very slow sideways/backwords passing none tackling midfield that seems bring all the rest of the team down, he has a massive challenge to offload them because they are only here because no one else wants them and I would presume he needs to get the wage bill down before a large recruitment, All I say is good luck and lets hope he cam perform miracles or we are playing in the NLN next season


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This shit players will be somebody else's problem come May by way of contracts ending.
Well that's my hopeful philosophy.
A few Mani D goals should ensure we stay up.
Then a quickish rebuild.
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
This shit players will be somebody else's problem come May by way of contracts ending.
Well that's my hopeful philosophy.
A few Mani D goals should ensure we stay up.
Then a quickish rebuild.
UTP.


Even Manni D was going off the boil just before his injury. Lets hope the break from the team has done him some good.


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Eiphos_3 wrote:
Tactics cost us the game last night - timing and personal when subs used also ... very bad.

I just hope that he is as brutal as he says he is - but its okay binning off the lads we have if someone is willing to take them and then get their better replacements in. which is easier said that done. (especially with our resources and location).

If this consortium have some cash its going to still take seasons to get a really good promotion winning side together. Stockport and Wrexham are proof of that. Unfortunately you cant just gather 11 very good players over night and expect them to win the league !

We all know a full reshuffle is needed and no doubt will be thrust upon us as thankfully quite alot of contracts are due.
Again id start from the back and bring in a new No1. Follow that with RB and LB and another CB for good measure.
Mancini and Mani D are probably the only other players worth keeping in this side just now. Id probs keep Feaths as a coach tbh aswell.


So you dont rate Parkes?


sorry i meant out of the old lot - Parkes is mint


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Eiphos_3 wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Eiphos_3 wrote:
Tactics cost us the game last night - timing and personal when subs used also ... very bad.

I just hope that he is as brutal as he says he is - but its okay binning off the lads we have if someone is willing to take them and then get their better replacements in. which is easier said that done. (especially with our resources and location).

If this consortium have some cash its going to still take seasons to get a really good promotion winning side together. Stockport and Wrexham are proof of that. Unfortunately you cant just gather 11 very good players over night and expect them to win the league !

We all know a full reshuffle is needed and no doubt will be thrust upon us as thankfully quite alot of contracts are due.
Again id start from the back and bring in a new No1. Follow that with RB and LB and another CB for good measure.
Mancini and Mani D are probably the only other players worth keeping in this side just now. Id probs keep Feaths as a coach tbh aswell.


So you dont rate Parkes?


sorry i meant out of the old lot - Parkes is mint


Waterfall is highly rated at Grimsby hopefully we have got a pairing to stop us looking so weak.


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Yep i think him and Mani O and Parkes in a back 3 is as strong as any in this league. Looks good on paper anyways.

im done with Ferguson aswell - we need a pacey LWB who can put a tackle in. Fergie has gone soft and cant use his right foot at all !

Then RWB (Hendrie is okay) but we need another Sterry. He was one of the key factors we got out of this league before. Macualey Southam Hales is also the same sort of player, absolutely excellent at what they do and its exactly what we need !


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KP needs to look at the very slow sideways/backwords passing none tackling midfield that seems bring all the rest of the team down, he has a massive challenge to offload them because they are only here because no one else wants them and I would presume he needs to get the wage bill down before a large recruitment, All I say is good luck and lets hope he cam perform miracles or we are playing in the NLN next season



This.
If we don't recruit in midfield,the forwards will still have a problem getting goals,as there is hardly any service to them.


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Preston Poolie wrote:
KP needs to look at the very slow sideways/backwords passing none tackling midfield that seems bring all the rest of the team down, he has a massive challenge to offload them because they are only here because no one else wants them and I would presume he needs to get the wage bill down before a large recruitment, All I say is good luck and lets hope he cam perform miracles or we are playing in the NLN next season

once they get onto the pitch it will be hard for him or any other manager to change how the players decide to play especially when the midfield picks itself every game. you can shout yourself horse but thats it. you cannot even drop em because there is no real alternative.


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Will be interesting to see who makes way in midfield for Khan who's an attacking midfielder/winger according to Wiki and Waterfall should he come into the starting lineup too, as their time spent at Pools will probably be numbered.

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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
Will be interesting to see who makes way in midfield for Khan who's an attacking midfielder/winger according to Wiki and Waterfall should he come into the starting lineup too, as their time spent at Pools will probably be numbered.


Waterfall has had his contract at Grimsby cancelled and signed a new one, so he’ll definitely be around next season.

Tomorrow’s line up will be interesting, but however the pack is shuffled it’s the lack of goal threat without Manni D that worries me. Pools missed 4 good chances in the first half on Tuesday night when the wind was in their favour.


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Davcla wrote:
Tony Toms was the man he would get the lazy players working or out of the door

they have all the stats nowadays on players workrates. problem is these stats do not show where and how this work is put in and just watching a team i would not put money on the one who works the hardest but can see those who contibute the most in games. no guarentee that both will be the same and some who are regarded as being a lazy player also think they,ve put a real shift in during a game or training.


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I hope KP is one of these guys (which looking at his time in charge of Shields) that comes in and changes it from the off.
none of this... ill keep the same team and formation as the last game as the lads know it and know each other etc...

we are crap - the team that plays week in week out no matter what is so inconsistent its almost unbelievable. We had some good consistency under JA when he first arrived. This is what im hoping KP does ! but instead of all the bore draws we grab the 1-0s and 2-1s at the death !

if another good player comes in today thats 4 new good lads (plus maybe 5 if Duffus can start performing). There is no reason why we should be seeing the likes of Crawford and Grey on the pitch - Wallace even at a push. Cooke has to be back in the mix too if hes fit !

dont even know what formation we will play but id imagine a start for both the new lads will be on the cards. If not Maybee see Kahn come off the bench in the 2nd half to cause some bother !


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It's fair to say if KP sees a problem then he doesn't mess about sorting it out.
Did I read above its going to take years to put a team together capable of challenging for promotion. sctatchinghead
That would even test the patience of our unambitious fans in what is clearly the worst standard vanarama of our breif history in this division.
The rebuild is starting now then add in the byebyes to the out of contract dross.
Can't see him going down the route of replacing shit with shit.

I reckon we can have a right good go at promotion from August.
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Should the quality of player coming through the door stay as consistent as it has with the last few arrivals - plus Dodds coming back into the fold an a fully fit Mancini. There is absolutely no reason why we shouldnt be looking at promotion for next season under KP.
Depending what teams come down and how they recruit it will be a very interesting season coming up.

I think we have enough now to sustain a half decent 10/11th place finish


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Should the quality of player coming through the door stay as consistent as it has with the last few arrivals - plus Dodds coming back into the fold an a fully fit Mancini. There is absolutely no reason why we shouldnt be looking at promotion for next season under KP.
Depending what teams come down and how they recruit it will be a very interesting season coming up.

I think we have enough now to sustain a half decent 10/11th place finish

the most important thing is for the team to carry on until the final game of the season and not go on holiday once there is zero fear of being relegated. keeps the fans onside over the summer by season ticket sales as well as the teams who finish strong one season seem to go into the next in the same way if everything is equal.


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The rebuild is starting now then add in the byebyes to the out of contract dross.Can't see him going down the route of replacing shit with shit.


I hear the cart has been ordered by KP and is dropping by the Vic later this week.
A few dead bodies to be thrown out.
Dolan and Ndjoli for definite.

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Dolan has an offer from Blyth - i would suspect he would be a good fit for them at that level.


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Eiphos_3 wrote:
Dolan has an offer from Blyth - i would suspect he would be a good fit for them at that level.


Do they do the XXXL shirts/shorts at Blyth?
Agree good fit for Fatty if they do.
His missus will be happy...and he wont be missin out on her home cookin either. :laugh:


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Dolan has an offer from Blyth - i would suspect he would be a good fit for them at that level.

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The rebuild is starting now then add in the byebyes to the out of contract dross.Can't see him going down the route of replacing shit with shit.


I hear the cart has been ordered by KP and is dropping by the Vic later this week.
A few dead bodies to be thrown out.
Dolan and Ndjoli for definite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4rR-OsTNCg


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Dolan has an offer from Blyth - i would suspect he would be a good fit for them at that level.

Catering manager?

or reserve team player/manager.


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You can only have a plan if you have the tools to action it.

I’ve got a master plan to buy one of those multi million pound floating gin palace yachts and cruise around the world….. sadly my financial resources for the project stand at £ 5.65…. A severe shortfall, which makes my plan utter bollocks.

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Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
You can only have a plan if you have the tools to action it.

I’ve got a master plan to buy one of those multi million pound floating gin palace yachts and cruise around the world….. sadly my financial resources for the project stand at £ 5.65…. A severe shortfall, which makes my plan utter bollocks.


You need to have a word with Mr Houchen, :laugh:


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