I thought HUST were the voice of the consortium? Wonder why they're keeping schtum?

Why on earth has he even come out and given this statement. Does he want to sell the club or not.? This club is pretty much a laughing stock at the minute, yet he can do wrong in your eyes.

Least it sounds like you now believe someone is trying to do a deal? You have been in denial about that for months now.

Its another statement blaming others for the mess we are in, no raj you created it.

Nah...have a listen to this bloke, who I heard is the main man behind the HUST consortium.
His global empire, or "Planet Paul" as he refers to it, has its main office in Raby Rd.
Perhaps he knows Mr Paylor ??
Apparently all you need to do is believe.
That's what he says...see what you think..
Maybe it's just me but his patter reminds me of a chairman we had at the club not so long ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pofRsO94uXE

I heard last week Goffy has pulled out.

Because theres nothing to report. When there is something.... they will.

Probably because as far as they were aware the club had made its position clear and they had until Tuesday to discuss what the next steps were with the consortium. Then Raj decided to make a public statement…

reading everything and trying to read between the lines i feel the takeover is quite close. could quite easily be the final asking price due to something they have found new in the books that they are wary of. obviously raj wants as much as he can get and like it or not he has put his money into the club. just hope we are not back to square one for what could be a few thousands of quid.

It’s an update from The Trust not the club that’s why it is on the OS.

That's just a guess too. Has it all just been accounted for as debt? How much has been taken out? We dunno. Not saying its a problem but I would want to unpick it.

The two Party’s will do what they have to do….our input is neither here nor there.
We must be getting close to showdown time surely.

and if it all falls through all we can provide is hot air about it with no solutions. lets keep everything crossed in the hope it does go through and its a real positive for the club and us.

You don't know what you are talking about, believe me he is a very successful business man, to liken him to the loser from down south is an insult!

Raj makes statements when Raj wants to make statements. If you want to know any more than that then you'll have to ask him.
None of us know whether deep down he actually wants to sell the club.
He believed people wanted him out and subsequently put the club up for sale. I believed his intent to sell was genuine, so I have always believed that someone was intent on doing a deal, namely Raj.
A seller willing to look at offers is only the beginning and I have pointed out on numerous occasions that there wasn't a queue of prospective buyers wending it's way down Clarence Road. Months later Raj approached HUST in order to try and make progress. Another indication that he was willing to sell.
The second stage in the sale is attracting interest. Raj stated from the outset that he needed to be convinced that any interest had to be genuine.
He stated he was trying to ensure that anybody coming in had to be seen to be capable (financially) of running the club. Nothing wrong with that.
The third stage is negotiations between the seller and the buyer, resulting in an offer. After nine long months of waiting we are now told by someone claiming to be part of the consortium that an offer has been made and rejected. How far the parties are apart we don't know.
We have now got statements from both sides, each criticising the other. Who holds the moral high ground is debatable.
I have stated from the start that I'll only be convinced that a deal has been done when the documents have been signed and all is done and dusted. Not denial but reality.
We've had an opening offer, so we are told. Raj has rejected it, so we are told. The club will be sold when Raj is satisfied as the seller. That is his right.
Get used to it.

It's like the Government and ASLEF, Aslef rejected the deal in April and the government keeps saying the deals on the table. Look what's happening with strikes and overtime bans. Paying public loses out, but details are kept quiet...

really no matter what this situation ends up like raj has given us both promotion and relegation in his time with us. he may get the blame for his appointments but at the time was there a great oh no from the fans regarding them. its not his fault that inferior players have been signed apart from possibly the lack of funds available. we only look at the crap always and not players who have done a decent job in the past and the present for us. the constant blaming of one man for the position we are in at present is not on. its like blaming the coaching staff if the chips are bad at the vic. if it all does fall through we all know who will get the blame for it happening with little knowledge to base this on.

Simple terms:

Raj wants more DOSH!

I think the consortium should have had a spokesman designated for these talk because a consortium where members break rank and comment is not what should happen.
What’s going to happen if the different members are ploughing their own furrow, a consortium must have one voice and one aim.

Good, sound comon sense. A breath of fresh air.

that sounds perfectly true. if it does go through then i hope its one voice we do hear from them only and not different ones who spout their own agenda on all social media platforms. it does not look good and gives the impression of nothing but arguements in their discussion and all pulling in different directions.

No club has people queuing down the road to buy it, it doesnt matter if you have a 100 or 1 after the club as long as that 1 buys the club.

A few months ago you mocked anyone who said people were interested in buying the club. Low and behold a bid has now been turned down now. Rajs right obviously any decent businessman turns down first offer, if it is that. No one can blame him for that.

But to come out with a statement a few days before he is trying to sell the club, blaming the last 9 months on anyone but himself is stupid, what if these people now say sod you. He will get nothing back. Im sure then it will be the fans fault, hartleys fault, dave challinors fault, kev off the message board for wanting him out, im surprised gladys the tea lady hasnt been blamed yet by him.

They might of said one of us needs to put something out there, put a name to one of the group. No one knows yet. If i was in that consortium i wouldnt let raj walk all over them, he told the world he wants out, so lets see if he does.

I'm glad you tube doesn't have smelly vision because that was so full of bullshit.

These people couldn't persuade a fly to land on a pile of dog shit!

there is wanting out and there is wanting out. doubt he has got to the stage of wanting out so much he,d accept being ripped off in the process if he sees it that way. like things we want to sell. you want em gone but are not prepared to give em away and want a reasonable price for them that we feel is reasonable. when i sold cars in the past for a bit of extra money i,d receive what i felt was a sensible and reasonable offer but chancers could just do one who wanted something for nothing.

Didn't mock anybody. My stance after over seventy years of being a Pools fan is I'll believe it when I see it. That's not mocking it's giving out advice against disappointment. I've seen too much of it.
As for allocating fault, if the current negotiations come to nothing and Raj walks I will blame the people who forced him out without a replacement. Raj can blame where he likes just like you do. As I've said before you don't remove and dispose of your front door without having a replacement propped against the wall ready to take over. Only silly billies would do that. no pun intended.
I think that you are now doubting the success of these negotiations and are preparing your escape route.
Raj is still trying to keep the club going and still you're having a go at him.
Me, I just want somebody to take the club forward or at least keep it safe until that can happen. By safe I mean against the lunatics blindly driving it lemming like towards the precipice. Like I've said repeatedly, until someone else comes along with an offer he can't refuse, then Raj is all we've got.

The way for Raj to stop fans complaining about the club being a laughing stock was for him to stop it being run like a laughing stock. Fans are going to call things as they see them. They can't all be meek cap doffers. There's still time for Raj to come good, even if he stays.

So an offer was made to the seller and, assuming it was the first serious offer, you seem surprised that it was turned down.
If you actually became involved in owning the club you will be in for a good deal of seeing initial offers turned down when you try and negotiate with hard nosed agents in player negotiations. Saying by gum this isn't plain sailing will get you exactly nowhere.
So you are right there is trouble ahead for you.
Did you deliberately try to hound Raj out of the club in order to get the club for nowt. It wouldn't surprise me if the man refuses to sit at the same table as you my friend, especially now you've shown your true colours, always assuming that your claims are genuine. [/quote]

Why on earth has he even come out and given this statement. Does he want to sell the club or not.? This club is pretty much a laughing stock at the minute, yet he can do wrong in your eyes.

Least it sounds like you now believe someone is trying to do a deal? You have been in denial about that for months now.

Its another statement blaming others for the mess we are in, no raj you created it.[/quote]

Raj makes statements when Raj wants to make statements. If you want to know any more than that then you'll have to ask him.
None of us know whether deep down he actually wants to sell the club.
He believed people wanted him out and subsequently put the club up for sale. I believed his intent to sell was genuine, so I have always believed that someone was intent on doing a deal, namely Raj.
A seller willing to look at offers is only the beginning and I have pointed out on numerous occasions that there wasn't a queue of prospective buyers wending it's way down Clarence Road. Months later Raj approached HUST in order to try and make progress. Another indication that he was willing to sell.
The second stage in the sale is attracting interest. Raj stated from the outset that he needed to be convinced that any interest had to be genuine.
He stated he was trying to ensure that anybody coming in had to be seen to be capable (financially) of running the club. Nothing wrong with that.
The third stage is negotiations between the seller and the buyer, resulting in an offer. After nine long months of waiting we are now told by someone claiming to be part of the consortium that an offer has been made and rejected. How far the parties are apart we don't know.
We have now got statements from both sides, each criticising the other. Who holds the moral high ground is debatable.
I have stated from the start that I'll only be convinced that a deal has been done when the documents have been signed and all is done and dusted. Not denial but reality.
We've had an opening offer, so we are told. Raj has rejected it, so we are told. The club will be sold when Raj is satisfied as the seller. That is his right.
Get used to it.[/quote]

No club has people queuing down the road to buy it, it doesnt matter if you have a 100 or 1 after the club as long as that 1 buys the club.

A few months ago you mocked anyone who said people were interested in buying the club. Low and behold a bid has now been turned down now. Rajs right obviously any decent businessman turns down first offer, if it is that. No one can blame him for that.

But to come out with a statement a few days before he

Didn't mock anybody. My stance after over seventy years of being a Pools fan is I'll believe it when I see it. That's not mocking it's giving out advice against disappointment. I've seen too much of it.
As for allocating fault, if the current negotiations come to nothing and Raj walks I will blame the people who forced him out without a replacement. Raj can blame where he likes just like you do. As I've said before you don't remove and dispose of your front door without having a replacement propped against the wall ready to take over. Only silly billies would do that. no pun intended.
I think that you are now doubting the success of these negotiations and are preparing your escape route.
Raj is still trying to keep the club going and still you're having a go at him.
Me, I just want somebody to take the club forward or at least keep it safe until that can happen. By safe I mean against the lunatics blindly driving it lemming like towards the precipice. Like I've said repeatedly, until someone else comes along with an offer he can't refuse, then Raj is all we've got.[/quote]

No not doubting the consortium one bit im doubting the loose cannon in charge of our club. Im not convinced he is leaving in the slightest. I think he has set the scene to once again put the blame on someone else.

Scared stiff to speak out. The clubs mess is everyone elses cause, nothing to do with the main man. Lets be honest only an idiot would now walk away from a 6 figure sum if he has no intentions of staying. Even a derisory offer if it was one, would be better than nothing.

Who knows in 2 months time we might be run like a proper football club again, thats not slumping from one embarassment to another. Maybe the ones that have backed this guys every move might see the light then.
.

What a surprise Hust have met all the club deadlines.

I just hope it all goes quiet again. Do what HUST keep saying and just wait and see.

Hoping to do a deal in next few days.

Would be lovely to just think about us getting enough points to be safe.

Like to think a new manager bounce can give us a lift, the signing of the lad at the back looks a good move at present.

Raj has got the football club over a barrel. Get used to it. He’s a very rich businessman who couldn’t care less about the supporters. We’re just the paying customer. Pay him what he wants or he’ll destroy the football club.

I find this concerning.


Update for Members and Pools Supporters
First, doesn't the world look better after an away win with a clean sheet!
We'd also like to welcome Kevin Phillips to the club and wish him luck in his new job. We can guarantee that whatever happens off the pitch him and the players will have the full backing of the fans.
Speaking on matters off the pitch, we would like to confirm several points made by the club in their statement last night. There are ongoing negotiations and, as we have throughout the process, we're working hard to reach a conclusion that works for all parties as swiftly as possible. Since the consortium was formed we've met every deadline and are hopeful about reaching an agreement on the club's future in the coming days. We have an offer on the table and remain open to discussions with the club at any time.
Some supporters have asked about the identity of the consortium members and whether they have the combined financial strength to take the club forward. We can assure you that they have. All are successful in their field - areas of expertise include bio-fuels, training provision, football schools and fitness facilities, sport and investment in distressed companies.
We're convinced that we have a group which is capable of creating a community club that the town, and every supporter, can feel proud of and be part of. It is time for our club to rise and we're hoping that rise can start soon.
All the best
The Board of HUST

He's sacked a failing manager and brought in a popular choice as the new boss. He has financed the permanant siging of a very solid Centre Half and the loan signing of a Football league forward player. Doesnt seem like he wants to destroy the club.

Why on earth has he even come out and given this statement. Does he want to sell the club or not.? This club is pretty much a laughing stock at the minute, yet he can do wrong in your eyes.

Least it sounds like you now believe someone is trying to do a deal? You have been in denial about that for months now.

Its another statement blaming others for the mess we are in, no raj you created it.[/quote]

Raj makes statements when Raj wants to make statements. If you want to know any more than that then you'll have to ask him.
None of us know whether deep down he actually wants to sell the club.
He believed people wanted him out and subsequently put the club up for sale. I believed his intent to sell was genuine, so I have always believed that someone was intent on doing a deal, namely Raj.
A seller willing to look at offers is only the beginning and I have pointed out on numerous occasions that there wasn't a queue of prospective buyers wending it's way down Clarence Road. Months later Raj approached HUST in order to try and make progress. Another indication that he was willing to sell.
The second stage in the sale is attracting interest. Raj stated from the outset that he needed to be convinced that any interest had to be genuine.
He stated he was trying to ensure that anybody coming in had to be seen to be capable (financially) of running the club. Nothing wrong with that.
The third stage is negotiations between the seller and the buyer, resulting in an offer. After nine long months of waiting we are now told by someone claiming to be part of the consortium that an offer has been made and rejected. How far the parties are apart we don't know.
We have now got statements from both sides, each criticising the other. Who holds the moral high ground is debatable.
I have stated from the start that I'll only be convinced that a deal has been done when the documents have been signed and all is done and dusted. Not denial but reality.
We've had an opening offer, so we are told. Raj has rejected it, so we are told. The club will be sold when Raj is satisfied as the seller. That is his right.
Get used to it.[/quote]

No club has people queuing down the road to buy it, it doesnt matter if you have a 100 or 1 after the club as long as that 1 buys the club.

A few months ago you mocked anyone who said people were interested in buying the club. Low and behold a bid has now been turned down now. Rajs right obviously any decent businessman turns down first offer, if it is that. No one can blame him for that.

But to come out with a statement a few days before he

Didn't mock anybody. My stance after over seventy years of being a Pools fan is I'll believe it when I see it. That's not mocking it's giving out advice against disappointment. I've seen too much of it.
As for allocating fault, if the current negotiations come to nothing and Raj walks I will blame the people who forced him out without a replacement. Raj can blame where he likes just like you do. As I've said before you don't remove and dispose of your front door without having a replacement propped against the wall ready to take over. Only silly billies would do that. no pun intended.
I think that you are now doubting the success of these negotiations and are preparing your escape route.
Raj is still trying to keep the club going and still you're having a go at him.
Me, I just want somebody to take the club forward or at least keep it safe until that can happen. By safe I mean against the lunatics blindly driving it lemming like towards the precipice. Like I've said repeatedly, until someone else comes along with an offer he can't refuse, then Raj is all we've got.[/quote]

No not doubting the consortium one bit im doubting the loose cannon in charge of our club. Im not convinced he is leaving in the slightest. I think he has set the scene to once again put the blame on someone else.[/quote]

Of course you're not doubting the consortium, you're doubting Raj, no surprise there then is there. The seller wants to get as much as he can and the buyer wants to pay as little. If this rumour of a six figure sum is real, and there isn't a scrap of evidence that it is, it just might depend where this figure actually lies, if it actually lies anywhere within that spectrum. If the two parties stick to their respective guns we have an impasse and unless one or the other, or even both are prepared to give way. If intransigence wins the day and the deal collapses no one is to blame, they agree to disagree. Of course you are already painting Raj as the likely candidate to blame without any idea of the outcome. It's not a scenario for blame, it is simply failure to agree. Happens all the time.

Pennies not droping for me, Whats the concern MrI ?

It's quite obvious where the possible destruction of the club will come from, should that happen. I hope it doesn't come to that but there are people hell bent on forcing Raj's hand which not only do I think that that course is a mistake but also a huge gamble. Not going to sit back and watch that without a fight.

It reads like HUST are not just merely Brokers................................

They’ve said throughout they were looking to be part of the consortium in a minority shareholding capacity. Even quoting Barrow and other clubs as successful examples of this model. This isn’t new news?

Pennies not droping for me, Whats the concern MrI ?[/quote]

Sounds like Sage mk2 to me

Whatever way you look at it it’s clear the the consortium is proposing to buy the club with debt.

Stephen Paylor has responded to a comment on facebook about the strength of the finances of the consortium needing to be around £2M - hes advised that is around the level of capital investment planned.

That's the feeling I'm getting..sadly

Nowhere near. You can get rid of that kind of money in the blink of an eye. IOR were putting at least a million EVERY season.

Correct but Raj Singh has not been.

Proudly advertising the fact that one of your consortium members specialises in investment in distressed companies says it all for me

Because Raj is not going to write it off, So new owners would have to carry it, And gradually pay it off i would think.
This i would imagine is loans owed to Raj.

Were they though.

Were they bollocks.