Different employment situation is football we're travel is in the job description.Higher wages than most fans most of the time.
. Luckily my 40 years of employment has been in Hartlepool.
And I go to work on me bike. Anutha keep fit benefit.

Back on the Wembley dream Saturday.
It's now or never.
UTP.

Challinor he was offered in his words derogratory wages. Then wanted more money elsewhere. Then had his budget held back, which didnt appear to be given to the next manager because at the time we were after all these 100k goalscorers that were top scorers in league 2, funny we never signed one but we got just as good with mike fondop, infact im not sure graeme lee got a top league 2 scorer either even after a palace match, though i could argue he was allowed bogle for 3 months. Challinor road off into the sunset his wife wanted to tell us all how badly things had been or were going to be and now to be fair to them they were both wrong. Because we have progressed on and off the pitch big time since. Think thats quite a positive spin on whats been a positive last couple of years, to top it all off we trained mike fondop that well the little tinker managed to score against one of the best defences in the country the other week, jumped over the hoardings like it was an fa cup final match to celebrate with his mates in the poolie end.

Meanwhile poor mr challinor has been left right in the shit managing a team top of league 2, who now pull in 10000 crowds, funny they tend to win at home most weeks now like we used too.

Positive spin must be put on this though, the only way is down for mr and mrs challinor now, and we are just about to soar up the league cos a few days ago the play offs was still reality, just a shame the 2nd worst club in the league put a slight halt to our march up the league.

Win sat then is it last 16 or 8?

Let's put the record right re Challinor - he came to us after Fylde had sacked him, and he appeared happy and content with no complaints about his wages or budget.
After promotion he went public about his poor wages, so Raj improved them and he went public to say how happy and settled he was. No mention of a poor budget as I recall.
So to sum it up he didn't complain about his wages in the NL campaigns. He actually stated he was delighted to get his new deal sorted. Hardly points to penny pinching by the chairman does it?

could be the case of anything being better than nothing when he was out of work. once he got his feet under the table and gained a promotion he might have got a bit sniffy about his pools wage especially when stockport were sniffing about. i,d guess that was weeks and weeks before he actually did leave as well.

The point is after he got his new deal he publicly stated how happy he was with it, so he must have got what he thought was decent. The fact that Stockport allegedly almost trebled his wage doesn't detract from his stated happiness with the deal Raj gave him. He didn't walk because we were scrimping, he walked because he got an offer that he couldn't refuse and that Raj either wouldn't or couldn't match.
DC was happy with his deal at Pools - fact.

wild has always been north west based like challinor and saved us from another challinor situation if he had come to us and done well. doubt he would have gone to barrow if they had trained in the town and had that trek to make every day. its just a job anyway and i know from only a 40 mile round trip to work it gets you down.

do you believe everything managers and chairmen come out with in public where football is concerned. they will never say anything truthful like i cannot wait to get away or the money is shit. same with those scripted player interviews where they are all glad to be here etc. if they really mean its the best offer they had received.

A millionaire bought Stockport and wanted Challinor. We couldn’t compete and he rode off into the sunset….he also got the benefit of no more travel.
Simple as that, sorry to burst your bubble.

By the way where can I see Challinor’s quote of a ‘derogatory’ offer…or was a diplomatic justification for legging it over the Pennines..,?
I’d be very interested if you can see that quote.

No I dont believe everything that football football people say in general but Challinor did publicly say the money was shit though didn't he?
So if he was honest and outspoken enough at that time I'm sure he would have let us know if he had any issues regarding his contract or the budget. Or do we only accept negative and derogatory quotes as being truthful?

no, but if you did get a mixture of negative and positive comments from everybody you might believe more of them. everyone are different and some will love the crumb of comfort positive stuff that the club or those employed by it send out.

Who cares, It will probably be just another kick in the balls.

no that will come later in the semi finals after we start to make plans for a day out at wembley like i did before the rotherham game.

I don't remember a Pools manager ever, ever, choosing to discuss his contract negotiations in the media.
Normally at Pools, and at any club for that matter, by convention they would usually remain private.
But that was Challinor for you.
Knew what he was doing.. a right sly, untrustworthy, scheming Scouse git.

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/ ... ed-3338074

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/ ... th-3398957

Managers who discuss their contract in the public arena tend to be given a wide berth.
Funny how everyone knows someone who knows all about the clubs finances, but tell you nothing of consequence…Walter Mitty comes to mind.

How??.....oooooh me sides... now let me think.. ???

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Anybody who thinks ior have saved us needs sectioning. Years of under spending years of little or no communication. Picking the squad before managers arrive in the summer. Jobs being lost in the club lies being told about managers being there first choice a chief executive in two bodged takeovers. Having the nerve to justify charging fans 20-25 quid to watch utter rubbish. No plans on attracting the young fans of the town to watch the club regularly. Bulling their way through yet another transfer window. The club is a joke no credit should be given for saving us from tmh because anybody with half a brain could of sensed something was wrong when fans of teams who are up the shitter are telling you stay away from them. They have managed to drag it out unbelievably to two days after the transfer window system being closed. We have been treat like idiots. I'm afraid we wont be anymore."

Have to say I particularly like the bit about "years of under spending"

And I really must get myself a psychiatric appointment soon.

Lets face it your full time sad hobby is coming on here and slating the club ... end of matey.

Yes they did underspend for years. Yes they sold us to tmh and another dodgepot.

Whats quite sad is you trawling through posts to find it. Like i told you this mornong ior were brilliant for years when larsen got done that was the end of the spending or are you too thick to understand that?

Let’s just say I appreciated what they did for us and for a while we could look other clubs dead in the eye.
Trigger when asked why he signed for Pools said because we were the lower league Chelsea spending wise.
Once the money runs out, so does everything that goes with it…the myth that the club would be strong enough to survive was soon proven an illusion as the born again Poolies faded away and we all got mugged.
Nice while it lasted, but reality loves to bugger things up.
Some fans just carry on, some wail and some have histrionics, but normal service was resumed.

Owner underspending , picking the squad, no communication, fans being told lies, ticket prices a rip off, the club is a joke etc etc etc...all your words and allegations ...the same old never ending drivel repeated over and over again ...year in year out.

Would rather be thick than sick matey

Once again im.going to say to you cos your not particulalry bright. Ior were brilliant for years. Once the norweigan left it was a different ior. Are you comprehending that?

Listen..Did you spend any of your precious time on here slating IOR Mr Billy?
Did you?
A "Yes" or "No" will do.
Have you spent any of your precious time on here slating Mr Singh Mr Billy?
Have you?
Again a "Yes" or "No" will do.
Please answer the questions, pretty please...and then we can move on.

I think Mr W has a fair point. You've been outed well and truly Mr Billy. That's well and truly.
You are anti Raj anti the club anti the Townsfolk/ Fans and showed that your current attacks have form in the vitriolic piece highlighted by Mr W.
I think you should throw the shovel away before you need a helicopter to rescue you.

Your just joined the Bunker but claim to know all Billy's previous history.
Something a bit fishy going on.
We heading towards division 6 but you pretend we shud be grateful for this shit because SM critism is our demise.
You can read less shit than this in the Financial Times

Anti raj yes think he has done a dreadful job. Anti townsfolk no i think a lot of hartlepool people or hartlepool fans accept rubbish thats not anti. I think you will find its me who sings the praises of the fans constantly. The crowds we get, the nwc etc, the atmosphere over the last few years. But keep clutching at straws. If you and your new found friend Mr w or whatever his alter ego is want to spend years struggling in the lower leagues great enjoy, but fans like me and kev want better than the utter dross served up.

Its as if 2 usernames are needed for one voice.

Lets pull up a few of your posts shall we oh dear we cant can we? I wonder why?

Billy the views on this place are smalltime to affecting the views on the other 99% of our fan base.
Stop the Clickbait responses.
Singh mentioned previously this keyboard warrior shite as an excuse to get out of Pools for not getting the Millhouse Master Plan.
Results business.
Darlo heading towards division 7.
Pools division 6.
Everthing to to with Coxhall n Reynolds.
Talk more spin than Sunak.
Only football.
After December a bit of greef on here is née bother.
UTP.

Dave did wonders on a low budget but never forget it was him who told Raj you don't have to have a good budget to get success in the National League. And so it proved to be with us getting promotion. Raj then thought all managers should be given low budgets and like Dave we will be successful again.We have been haunted ever since with low
budgets and are now victims of Daves success

What was the budget then? What was every other div 2 budget, you must know if you can say ours was low?

DC was a one off who worked a minor miracle under Covid Regulations.
He's now getting the recognition he thought we're undervalued at Pools.
Lost 1500 fans since his exit but to some he was a bad egg. 1500 x £.
Well it ain't rocket science
Higgys crack 2 weeks ago regarding low wages.

See were we are come May.

So has anyone actually got the figures for our last 2 years budgets compared to every other div 2 team?
Thought not.

so we lost 1500 fans. there are league clubs as well as those in our league who carry on with less than that number of home fans week in week out but are in a higher position in the league than us and not had to face two relegations in a short time. nowadays its more to do with owners pocket size and other investments than the number of fans you get. for me pools have been unable to get into the modern world and still operate on size of the gates we get.

Yes, he’s getting rather regular with his ‘cracks’.
Ok as an after dinner speaker, but doing the radio commentary he does wander off the script to visit memory lane, when I just want a match report.

Never read a msg this strong when talking about Challinor a man who achieved a small miracle and is mostly respected on the bunker A right sly untrustworthy scheming scouse REALLY is that the reason you then went on to ban the mail RAJ

Challinor claiming well below average for league 2, can you imagine what the pkayers were on.

PTID says things taken straight out of Rajs fireside chats. Its very suspicious.

The DC contract renewal was poorly handled, regardless of whether DC went public with or not. Would DC have left if HUFC had handled the contract renewal better and if the club wasnt being run on a relative shoestring? We will never know. A job offer from a moneybags club on your doorstep would still have been a great temptation in my opinion. I don't think we can say for certain that we really stood a chance of keeping him regardless. Can we condemn DC for thinking about himself and his family's wellbeing? No I don't think so. Can we really say that Raj failed to keep hold of him? Can't say that either.

The sad thing is, the right thing (im my opinion) was done with Askey. He was signed up with no messing about and at the time it looked like a wise decision. Offering longer contracts is a gamble yes but I agree with it. The recruitment has to be right though and hopefully the 'you win some' factor is greater than the 'you lose some' giving a net gain. It can be done.

I've never met Raj in my life let alone had a y fireside chats with him, and fireside chats a thing btw?
Not sure what I've said is "suspicious" in any way, I'd be happy for enlightenment.
Everything I say on here is my own opinion, my belief, my understanding of situations, and so.etimes simple wind ups, so pretty much the same as the vast majority of bunkering I'd say.
I've no allegiance to Raj or anyone at the club, just a lifelong allegiance to the club itself.
Quite happy to offer apologies if I offend, or to offer corrections when I'm wrong.

Poolie imp I think you got the wrong poster above. The Challinor comments came via Waddell real name Raj above Or maybe it was to PTID

What about the rest of the post???

Just read back on this thread and both have had a go a Challinor so fair enough

So enlighten me then what have I said that's suspicious and why? I've told you I've never met Raj, and I'll welcome any new owner who wants to take the club forward? So what is your beef with me or is it you just don't I've my opinions? If the latter then maybe fans forums are not for you.

Think you summed up the situation with Challinor nicely there, my only grief was the nature of the leaving. If he’d just came out with it, no one would have begrudged it, well not me anyway.
I expected it to happen, it always has in the past even under IOR, I accept it when a player/manager leaves, it’s football.