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This season has finally wearied me and any expectations of anything.
The playing staff are generally lethargic with all the fight in them of a tired moth.
There is no pride, no desire, no team spirit, nothing, a team like a ghost town with creaking doors, nothing.The whole sorry ethos seems happy to be to lay down and be rolled over.
The entire place seems to have the air of defeatism, to have given up and surrendered to the inevitable because from top to bottom meek acceptance and lack of character is soaked into the very fabric of the entire club.
We’re becoming the club that died of shame, not at all bothered about the mugs who pay to watch this tired dance of the can’t really be arsed ‘professionals’ week in week out.

The club is tap dancing in a mine field and I see no sign of anything changing, for God’s sake make an effort from top to bottom if only for the sake of your dignity.
YOU LOT CAN LEAVE…..we have no choice, it’s our club, to you lot just a pay day.

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This season has finally wearied me and any expectations of anything.
The playing staff are generally lethargic with all the fight in them of a tired moth.
There is no pride, no desire, no team spirit, nothing, a team like a ghost town with creaking doors, nothing.The whole sorry ethos seems happy to be to lay down and be rolled over.
The entire place seems to have the air of defeatism, to have given up and surrendered to the inevitable because from top to bottom meek acceptance and lack of character is soaked into the very fabric of the entire club.
We’re becoming the club that died of shame, not at all bothered about the mugs who pay to watch this tired dance of the can’t really be arsed ‘professionals’ week in week out.

The club is tap dancing in a mine field and I see no sign of anything changing, for God’s sake make an effort from top to bottom if only for the sake of your dignity.
YOU LOT CAN LEAVE…..we have no choice, it’s our club, to you lot just a pay day.

AW, JUST FUCK OFF :evil:


I thought before the game yesterday oh we might sneak through, during the game saw the scores of all the clubs going out and thought the poolie way is to go out themselves, sure enough we did.

Think yesterday was the final straw for most fans, probobly lucky we are playing york shortly crowd wise, but the ease and the predictability of whats going to happen is ridiculous. Any manager that takes this job at the current time might as well kiss his managerial career goodbye.

This is out easy spell of games so far we have struggled past oxford city lost to fylde and dumped out of the cup. Keep things as they are and we are pretty much certainties to go down. If fans keep saying we have enough, then just take a look at the slide since the first 6 games, this lot arent capable of stringing 2 results together.


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I don’t even think it’s down to individual players anymore, everything from the players to the floodlight bulbs has a ‘can’t really be arsed ‘ attitude, from top to bottom. Everyone is looking to the exit door….but we have no choice.

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 Post subject: Re: Apathy.
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Snowy wrote:
I don’t even think it’s down to individual players anymore, everything from the players to the floodlight bulbs has a ‘can’t really be arsed ‘ attitude, from top to bottom. Everyone is looking to the exit door….but we have no choice.


We have been sleepwalking towards this for a very long time. I thought early on in the season ah were not going to hit rock bottom, couple of injuries and wham all goes to pot.

I would love to know what has been done the last few years at the club? Outside the ground is a disgrace still, the floodlights are pretty dire again, the pitch is nowhere near the standard it was, the team is made up of cast offs and cast aways from any non league club we can find, i count the scottish ones as non leaguers the standard they brought, rumour has it debt to sage is still big. Maybe im not seeing the bigger picture but what have these people been doing in our club for the last couple of years? They havent even been able to manage to sort the bar areas out at half time.

We have been run like a joke shop, the players are lacking motivation effort, pride. Its got to stop someone has got to get a hold of this club by the scruff of the neck and actually do something.

Mr i wanted us to go bust and start again im never in favour of that but the way its going we will almost be in that leagie anyway.


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The season is saveable, but not under the present way of doing things. There’s the trouble though, without change, we’re up a creek without a paddle…..we’ll be resorting to praying and miracles at the rate we’re going because we’re running out of runway.

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When we came down I said on here I’d be happy with consolidation, because few teams bounce straight back unless they have the collective mindset and luck.
Teams going down kid themselves they’ll be the bee’s knees and we should have learnt that from our first ‘visit’, obviously we haven’t and now we’re paying the price.

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I really think we’re heading down. We won five of the first seven games since which we’ve managed to win another three. Since the first batch of games were averaging 0.74 points per game. That form gets you 34 points over a full season which is obviously shite.

Looking at the table, Fylde are on a bit of a run and will probably escape. Ebbsfleet have far better form than us and everyone between us and the trap door have games in hand and better form. However the worst thing for Pools is the utter implosion of the club, the players lack of effort and the general malaise.


I think that by May we’ll be relegated to NLN at best. It might easily be a good few divisions if this takeover falls through.


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 Post subject: Re: Apathy.
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But yesterday's starting 11 wasn't made up of non league cast offs or cast aways, out of the starting 11 all bar Onariese and Parkes were playing at EFL level. They just play like a bunch of cast offs.
Hopefully a new manager is appointed soon from outside the club, someone who can shake things up enough to scrape a few wins and get us to the end of the season and avoid the drop. For me a good managerial appointment at this moment in time is the absolute priority. A new owner might bring change quickly but I doubt it would be immediately seen on the pitch.
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 Post subject: Re: Apathy.
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PTID wrote:
But yesterday's starting 11 wasn't made up of non league cast offs or cast aways, out of the starting 11 all bar Onariese and Parkes were playing at EFL level. They just play like a bunch of cast offs.
Hopefully a new manager is appointed soon from outside the club, someone who can shake things up enough to scrape a few wins and get us to the end of the season and avoid the drop. For me a good managerial appointment at this moment in time is the absolute priority. A new owner might bring change quickly but I doubt it would be immediately seen on the pitch.
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Im not sure a new manager will change much apart from possibly a new manager bounce for 3 or 4 games. Lennie got half a bounce for 1 game against possibly the worst team in the league. A new owner would have to be ready to go from day one to save this lot.


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 Post subject: Re: Apathy.
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Snowy wrote:
The season is saveable, but not under the present way of doing things. There’s the trouble though, without change, we’re up a creek without a paddle…..we’ll be resorting to praying and miracles at the rate we’re going because we’re running out of runway.


Till yesterday I've given the players the benefit of the doubt regarding effort n that they just not good enough.
90% of them.
Bit now looks like these out of contract players in May have thrown the towel in.
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 Post subject: Re: Apathy.
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When the same 8 or 9 players are a shoe in every game regardless of form nothing much is likely to change.
Lenny and Sweeney are too familiar with the squad and are just doing things the same as Askey did with the same under performers. That's why I'd hope a new manager from outside the club can do a bit better.
Yesterday was a good opportunity to give some fringe players a chance imo rather than risk them when there's league points at stake.


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 Post subject: Re: Apathy.
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PTID wrote:
When the same 8 or 9 players are a shoe in every game regardless of form nothing much is likely to change.
Lenny and Sweeney are too familiar with the squad and are just doing things the same as Askey did with the same under performers. That's why I'd hope a new manager from outside the club can do a bit better.
Yesterday was a good opportunity to give some fringe players a chance imo rather than risk them when there's league points at stake.


We were always going to play our first team in the hope of wembley. Massive pay day.


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 Post subject: Re: Apathy.
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Snowy wrote:
The season is saveable, but not under the present way of doing things. There’s the trouble though, without change, we’re up a creek without a paddle…..we’ll be resorting to praying and miracles at the rate we’re going because we’re running out of runway.


Till yesterday I've given the players the benefit of the doubt regarding effort n that they just not good enough.
90% of them.
Bit now looks like these out of contract players in May have thrown the towel in.
:angry-tappingfoot:

‘Thrown the towel in’….they’ve tossed the toliet, sink, shower, pipe work and bog rolls in too. :angry-tappingfoot:

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Wonder if some of them have got good agents a d new clubs lined up for next season, otherwise you'd think they'd realise they're playing for their future livelihood.


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Snowy wrote:
This season has finally wearied me and any expectations of anything.
The playing staff are generally lethargic with all the fight in them of a tired moth.
There is no pride, no desire, no team spirit, nothing, a team like a ghost town with creaking doors, nothing.The whole sorry ethos seems happy to be to lay down and be rolled over.
The entire place seems to have the air of defeatism, to have given up and surrendered to the inevitable because from top to bottom meek acceptance and lack of character is soaked into the very fabric of the entire club.
We’re becoming the club that died of shame, not at all bothered about the mugs who pay to watch this tired dance of the can’t really be arsed ‘professionals’ week in week out.

The club is tap dancing in a mine field and I see no sign of anything changing, for God’s sake make an effort from top to bottom if only for the sake of your dignity.
YOU LOT CAN LEAVE…..we have no choice, it’s our club, to you lot just a pay day.

AW, JUST FUCK OFF :evil:


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Wonder if some of them have got good agents a d new clubs lined up for next season, otherwise you'd think they'd realise they're playing for their future livelihood.

Would you sign them after this season….?

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Is Jack Reacher available till the end of the season, I admire his carrot and stick approach, a real man motivator.

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Snowy wrote:
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Wonder if some of them have got good agents a d new clubs lined up for next season, otherwise you'd think they'd realise they're playing for their future livelihood.

Would you sign them after this season….?


They will like 80 percent of the other players we have signed end up in a lower league. No one wanted featherstone, guess which mugs signed him.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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PTID wrote:
Wonder if some of them have got good agents a d new clubs lined up for next season, otherwise you'd think they'd realise they're playing for their future livelihood.

Would you sign them after this season….?


They will like 80 percent of the other players we have signed end up in a lower league. No one wanted featherstone, guess which mugs signed him.


Jeff Stelling going on like he played out of his skin regarding the Borehamwood Defeat a few months back.Only at Pools would this anology happen.
Full club needs gutting like a Trout.



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 Post subject: Re: Apathy.
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I don’t even think it’s down to individual players anymore, everything from the players to the floodlight bulbs has a ‘can’t really be arsed ‘ attitude, from top to bottom. Everyone is looking to the exit door….but we have no choice.

its just a job to players whose attitude is similar to ours at work if there is something really wrong at that firm and have a certain attitude about them. you quickly join in with the rest and we are all lazy at heart and why bother because the rest don,t right from the top. quicker something happens with club ownership and a new full time manager appointed to rid the place of everything that is wrong with it and start afresh with a clean slate even if the worst happens and we go down yet again. keeping things just as they are is the worst thing that can happen and we need new brooms everywhere at the club.


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I,m hoping (big hope i know) that with the inclusion of Parkes and a new new manager(Quickly), Manny D back.
It may just give people and players a lift.
Don,t know how Parkes did yesterdat but against Fylde looked a cut above and his reluctance to leave the field yesterday
Shows hes a fighter (according to Tees)


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How's the new players doing? I can't be arsed to check if they were playing.


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I,m hoping (big hope i know) that with the inclusion of Parkes and a new new manager(Quickly), Manny D back.
It may just give people and players a lift.
Don,t know how Parkes did yesterdat but against Fylde looked a cut above and his reluctance to leave the field yesterday
Shows hes a fighter (according to Tees)

as long as some of the others do not drag him down to their level. from playing against the likes of celtic and a long career behind him he has nothing now really to prove.


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One of the problems is there are a large number of the squad know they have no future at the club and therefore no alligence.


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Listening to some of LL's interviews, he comes across very lethargic and without any confidence. He says the team in mid week practiced penalties but they would have been better practicing how to score a goal (wouldn't need penalties then).

The big question though is what out of work Manager could ever be interested in taking on this poison chalice?

Perhaps a nice female Manager might bring out some positive re-action, rewarded by communal showers after the game!


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One of the problems is there are a large number of the squad know they have no future at the club and therefore no alligence.

Pity you can’t tear up a contract for being an uncommitted, lethargic sloth of a player :evil:

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According to NWC the players have to pay for there food on away trips / pay for damaged shirts / have no extra training kit / Raj refused to buy a industrial washing machine for the huge amount of kit. If all this is true Raj is a pure money grabbing kunt simple and the sooner that man goes the better. No wonder the players can't be arsed when they are treated like dog shit. Its human nature to feel pissed off when you work for a tyrant who takes takes takes and then treats you like pure dog shit. rakxe rakxe rakxe


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According to NWC the players have to pay for there food on away trips / pay for damaged shirts / have no extra training kit / Raj refused to buy a industrial washing machine for the huge amount of kit. If all this is true Raj is a pure money grabbing kunt simple and the sooner that man goes the better. No wonder the players can't be arsed when they are treated like dog shit. Its human nature to feel pissed off when you work for a tyrant who takes takes takes and then treats you like pure dog shit. rakxe rakxe rakxe

is this just another rumour again. i for one will only believe it once a player comes out with this fact that we alll can hear. funny how stuff like this comes out when the club is at a low ebb.


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According to NWC the players have to pay for there food on away trips / pay for damaged shirts / have no extra training kit / Raj refused to buy a industrial washing machine for the huge amount of kit. If all this is true Raj is a pure money grabbing kunt simple and the sooner that man goes the better. No wonder the players can't be arsed when they are treated like dog shit. Its human nature to feel pissed off when you work for a tyrant who takes takes takes and then treats you like pure dog shit. rakxe rakxe rakxe


"If all this is true Raj is a pure money grabbing kunt."

Really??

Are these the same NWC moronic crackheads who regularly put on their twitter feed comments like "sell the club you fat greedy kunt".

You obviously have the same DNA pal. stpid refred


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According to NWC the players have to pay for there food on away trips / pay for damaged shirts / have no extra training kit / Raj refused to buy a industrial washing machine for the huge amount of kit. If all this is true Raj is a pure money grabbing kunt simple and the sooner that man goes the better. No wonder the players can't be arsed when they are treated like dog shit. Its human nature to feel pissed off when you work for a tyrant who takes takes takes and then treats you like pure dog shit. rakxe rakxe rakxe

If that’s true, we should change the club’s name to Workhouse FC.
Trouble is would any manager worth his salt tolerate such behaviour?

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According to NWC the players have to pay for there food on away trips / pay for damaged shirts / have no extra training kit / Raj refused to buy a industrial washing machine for the huge amount of kit. If all this is true Raj is a pure money grabbing kunt simple and the sooner that man goes the better. No wonder the players can't be arsed when they are treated like dog shit. Its human nature to feel pissed off when you work for a tyrant who takes takes takes and then treats you like pure dog shit. rakxe rakxe rakxe

If that’s true, we should change the club’s name to Workhouse FC.
Trouble is would any manager worth his salt tolerate such behaviour?


We have not had such a manager since Brian Clough :roll:


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Cyril might have something to say about that.

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cyril knowles and brian cloughs do not exist in todays football world and quicker all fans realise this it will be better for them all. same with the hard men of the past and those playing through injuries.


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Cyril might have something to say about that.


Forgot about Cyril but the rest of the managers and that includes all those managers we employed with the same name ( Billy Datsun Horner ) would definitely not have said a word. rakxe


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I,m hoping (big hope i know) that with the inclusion of Parkes and a new new manager(Quickly), Manny D back.
It may just give people and players a lift.
Don,t know how Parkes did yesterdat but against Fylde looked a cut above and his reluctance to leave the field yesterday
Shows hes a fighter (according to Tees)

as long as some of the others do not drag him down to their level. from playing against the likes of celtic and a long career behind him he has nothing now really to prove.


You never know he may be able to drag the others up.


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Cyril might have something to say about that.


And Mr Cooper!


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According to NWC the players have to pay for there food on away trips / pay for damaged shirts / have no extra training kit / Raj refused to buy a industrial washing machine for the huge amount of kit. If all this is true Raj is a pure money grabbing kunt simple and the sooner that man goes the better. No wonder the players can't be arsed when they are treated like dog shit. Its human nature to feel pissed off when you work for a tyrant who takes takes takes and then treats you like pure dog shit. rakxe rakxe rakxe


"If all this is true Raj is a pure money grabbing kunt."



Are these the same NWC moronic crackheads who regularly put on their twitter feed comments like "sell the club you fat greedy kunt".

You obviously have the same DNA pal. stpid refred


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Waddell is that your new poster name Raj sctatchinghead Joined Oct 2023 sctatchinghead just spent time looking at your messages Mr Waddell and guess what it's Mr Singh this and Mr Singh that constantly having a go at anyone and everyone who dare say the slightest thing about you Mr Singh rakxe rakxe rakxe People like you got shot for spying in world wars :evil:


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My DNA is Hartlepool United through and through. You can go foook yourself PAL bbolt


This club just doesn't need the toxic gormless brain dead DNA types like you matey.

Surprised you are allowed to get away with posting your abusive defamatory CRAP on here with zero repercussions for you. refred


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waddell wrote:
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My DNA is Hartlepool United through and through. You can go foook yourself PAL bbolt


This club just doesn't need the toxic gormless brain dead DNA types like you matey.

Surprised you are allowed to get away with posting your abusive defamatory CRAP on here with zero repercussions for you. refred


You are totally biased because if you look at the messages I have put on here over the years which ones out of hundreds and hundreds have been " abusive defamatory CRAP " sctatchinghead


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You are totally biased because if you look at the messages I have put on here over the years which ones out of hundreds and hundreds have been " abusive defamatory CRAP " sctatchinghead


Just proves my point...again stpid


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You are totally biased because if you look at the messages I have put on here over the years which ones out of hundreds and hundreds have been " abusive defamatory CRAP " sctatchinghead


Just proves my point...again stpid[/quote]

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Leggie43 wrote:
People like you got shot for spying in world wars :evil:


Obviously something wrong upstairs with you grandad...time for bed soon therethere


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 Post subject: Re: Apathy.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:44 pm 
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waddell wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
People like you got shot for spying in world wars :evil:


Obviously something wrong upstairs with you grandad...time for bed soon therethere



Any chance of me moving into your beautiful care home Raj sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: Apathy.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:48 pm 
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waddell wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
People like you got shot for spying in world wars :evil:


Obviously something wrong upstairs with you grandad...time for bed soon therethere


Good to see your back poolie 1. Thought something had happened to you? Notice those scottish signings last year you defended to the hilt didnt turn out too great afterall.


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 Post subject: Re: Apathy.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:57 pm 
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Can't see Raj being involved in trivial matters like laundry, or rules regarding ripped shirts and food on away trips etc. Surely that'll be within the director of sport or football or whatever the job title is. Its like suggesting he oversees the washing at his care homes. Plus I'm sure if he was involved he'd probably contract it out and likely to the same people who do the care home laundry.


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 Post subject: Re: Apathy.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:00 pm 
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PTID wrote:
Can't see Raj being involved in trivial matters like laundry, or rules regarding ripped shirts and food on away trips etc. Surely that'll be within the director of sport or football or whatever the job title is. Its like suggesting he oversees the washing at his care homes. Plus I'm sure if he was involved he'd probably contract it out and likely to the same people who do the care home laundry.


I did say if its correct PTID but if its true he still owns the club and therefore the buck stops at him sctatchinghead


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:11 pm 
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It doesn't work like that though, the responsi ility lies with the person who's job it is to make sure the players have clean kit available. It's called delegation and you can delegate responsibility. So although overall you can say Raj is accountable for the entire running of the business, various directors and managers are responsible for their own areas of the business, eg that's why the manager gets the bullet when the team aren't performing. Also guess who Raj is accountable to.....it's the shareholders, ie himself.


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