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Heard it all before…

A lot of rumours flying around on twitter

There certainly is, Goughy,Americans. Seems lots of posts on Twitter.
Fingers crossed.

We await Wanky Doodle Dandy’s arrival with anticipation…or possibly not.

I can exclusively reveal that Pools' new owners will be a well-known firm of Florida realtors, Grifter, Bilk and Con.

We're relying on Raj to make sure we don't end up the hands of a bunch of cowboys.

Its a spearheaded effort by Mr Gough i am sure he will have us in the hands of the finest Alligator boot wearing Pistol whipping Sons of a guns !

YeeHa.

If anyone really thinks that this American dragons den guy (shark tank) is going to pump pots of money into an eternal loss making venture then I can only assume a level of mental illness.

Its how you spend it, Don,t need loads throwing at it. imo
Wrexham showing off to a degree, But would not mind knowing their sponsorship deal with TicTok amongest others.
Chesterfield Bought depth, If we had enough to cover that, I think we would in a POff spot now possibly.

York well, Least said the better.

Understand your point though.

Maybe its MarkCuban, Who knows
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Cuban

Naw, this is the fella who’s’ being bandied about.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daymond_John

seems to be a new name every time i come onto one of these boards or open twitter up.

It's must be Trump then.

Cheers

This place would go into meltdown if we got what some are demanding, a rich owner ploughing millions into a team (York) in the summer only to find that almost halfway through the season they're sat 2 points off the relegation places and dumped out of the FA Trophy by Nantwich (who the f*ck are Nantwich).
I recall some on here moaning in fact that it was a disgrace that the Ugglas had bought them instead of us. They'd now be shouting for their heads.

I even heard John Wayne mentioned. He's been dead over 200 hundred years.

hope it aint biden as he,d get lost and end up at halesowen.

Would be interested to know where this name has come from Mr I. A quick google puts his net worth at $350 million which would put him well above IOR and Larsen when they owned us. Find it incredibly hard to believe he would be involved in buying a club in the national league.

Yep. I suspect Yanks with cash would want to be associated with a club with a higher media profile. On the other hand, the media have loved the meteoric rise of Wrexham; they made their own media profile, so who knows?

Maybe they finally got along to reading Meatloaf's will? After all, he was such a HUGE fan he's bound to have left us something.

The reason i thought Mark Cuban, was his interests in Sport.
Also a lad in NewYork (pools follower) was tweeting about the takeover
And at the same time posting tweets about Cubans sporting ownerships.

All speculation of course.
Cuban is richer than most on the planet.
And is also on the same tv show as Mr Is link.

I think it would be great publicity for Hartlepool, a ‘little village’ on the N.E. coast with history of hanging a monkey, the yanks will love that.

He knows Paul Gough
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/tees ... d-25315402

‘Little Village’

This is the origins of this daft rumour.


https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/p ... ub-3905158

But you fail to mention chesterfield, notts county, stockport and wrexham all had massive money pumped into them.. They dont appear to be 2 points off relegation.

Swings and roundabouts, a lot more clubs have had money pumped in and went nowhere….. plenty of clubs do just as well with the right manager in place.
Get the right man in and you don’t need no sugar daddy.
You don’t become a top F1 driver because you’ve got the most expensive car, it’s because you’ve got the driving skills.

Look at Man U as an example this season, bad signings, wrong manager, just been given the dreaded vote of confidence.
Ipswich are flying, young manager Kieran McKenna never played much football after an injury put an end to his career at 23 years old.Wenger or Mourinho ever played much football either.

Managers and players are two completely different roles, yet people still think you have to be a good player to be a good manager.

The point is a rich chairman doesn't guarantee anything.
Mike Ashley at Newcastle for example, anyone remember Leeds under Ridsdale I think it was signed loads of big money players and were in the CL yet within a few seasons were on Lge 1.
Man City took a while and went through plenty of players and managers before becoming successful, quite obvious that the manager and not the money is the key there.
Gorgeous George at Darlo has loads money and look where they are now.
We managed to get promoted with this chairman when he got the managerial appointment right, or did Raj just throw bags of cash at the team that season?

A rich chairman guarantees nothing, but chances are you're more likely to be in the football league with a rich chairman than without one. Stockport were going nowhere until big money was pumped into them, we are in a similar situation now, unless we strike it lucky with a manager, but how many managers do we need to go through to find that guy?

Raj went out and got us a decent striker when we needed one add to that an already reasonable team with a top manager and we hit a purple patch for a few months.

But you could argue Stockport were going nowhere until big money was pumped into them AND the right manager was appointed.
We might just have the right manager now, after all he had a decent start to his time here, and a good start to this season. Raj is still backing him by means of allowing a bagful of loanees to come in, which seems a sensible way of managing the injury crisis we seem to be going through.
A big cash injection into the playing side might be the gamble that pays off for a new owner, but it's often been said that if you want to make a small fortune out of owning a football club you need to start with a large fortune. Are we going to get that kind of gambler, imo that would only come from someone with an affinity to the club or town.
Waiting game on all counts, new owner, how we manage until / unless it happens. Just got to keep the faith regardless no matter how difficult things seem at the moment.

for me you need a rich pwner who leaves the playing side to a good manager. with the extra money available the manager can shop anywhere he likes and not be hampered by lack of cash. does not mean every signing has to be a 6 figure one ny a long way.

Part of the problem imo is that we've adopted this model that some big clubs have whereby the manager has little to no involvement in recruitment. That's all left to the recruitment and sporting directors, bizarre really and especially at our level.

It seems to me that if an owner has a reasonable wad, a club can rise from League 2 up to the lower end of the Championship. After that silly money starts to be required( more than than Ryan Reynolds group) if Premiership status is achieved insane money is needed just to avoid relegation and arab oil billionaire dosh is needed if you want to win the league or get into Europe. Obviously having the right manager is a crucial as well but the very best manager wont win the Premiership unless he has crazy money. Just my opinion.

That’s the one that annoys me…it should be down to the manager not some bloody committee of screen grazers and number crunchers.

Money always helps but is only part of the Jigsaw puzzle that is football.
I think the Premiership is safe from our level of ambition.

Think Fylde have had a few bob over the years.
Now players are leaving like rats on a sinking ship.

Disagree with both here. We let Paul Hartley do the lions share of recruitment last summer and what happened. I think it's better to have someone oversee the recruitment with input from the manager. This saves the club money in the fact they aren't stuck with lots of players the next manager doesn't want and allows continuity as when the manager moves on, the next one can be picked by the Director of Football/whatever they're called and continue on the playing style of the club.
It's also clear Askey has had a big say in recruitment with Jameson, Wallace and Hancox all having played for him.

thats because the fan base has to rise in the same way as the money is being put in. if they are not really around locally like fylde they haven,t a cat in hells chance of getting anywhere as they are the ones around for life and not just the length of time an owner is interested. accrington is between burnley and blackburn but even if they matched em in league positions they,d never match either on crowds.

It’s football, not the personnel department at a supermarket looking for continuity in recruitment.
Hartley is hardly a shining example and I doubt you could use him as a reason not to allow managers to pick who they want….going for the worst case scenario as a guide is not recommended.
Being handed somebody else’s gamble of a signing, but getting the flak when they’re crap must be a pain in the arse instead of the glorified clerk who signed him and slips under the radar.
I can just imagine Cloughie being told he has to work with the players he’s been given by a committee, it’s going back to the days of the FA Committee picking the actual team as it was back in the day.

Askey might have a big say in it but if he had richer owners i doubt he would even look twice at some of these players.

Our most successful years were without a Sporting / football director, or head of recruitment. 2 or 3 wages better off spent on players imo.
Plus we managed to get bloody good players with the scouting and recommendations system that we once had.
Sir Cyril, Turner, Cooper, Alan Murray, Danny Wilson all worked without sporting and recruitment directors.

Unfortunately, that's the way football is now. That's the reason why manages get away with poor performances and can blame everyone else for the poor results. When the management teams have full control of scouting, you can get the players who you want.

Director of football is basically like a employer agency, make do with what you get.

I thought Danny Wilson had Tubby Turner as Director of Sport

Maybe Tubby was looking after the Indoor League sports-
Darts, Dominos, Tiddly winks, Table Skittles, Shove Ha'penny,
table football and Bar Billiards

I know under IOR they said that the manager didn’t have a budget but IOR said he merely asked for a player and made the case for the signing..so it was a flexible budget.
Whereas a lot of clubs gave a manager a fixed budget, where they tended to spend up to their limit, sometimes for the sake of it.

and a lot from both sides hold money back in some sort of rainy day account if things go pear shaped.