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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:13 pm 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeIRki9PWHs


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 Post subject: Re: highlights
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:36 pm 
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More like lowlights… Perhaps post them on the Bromley site?


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 Post subject: Re: highlights
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:46 pm 
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I’ll pass on that, thanks,

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 Post subject: Re: highlights
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:21 am 
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At this stage of the season, after seeing this over and over again - that's down to coaching - or lack of it. We're wide open for a counter attack (because of the way we're set up) and we can't man mark when we're defending set pieces.

John Askey is being paid to manage this side and there are some good players in this side. Just send either of our Manni's or Crawford, or Cooke to a team like Barnet and watch how they would do (much, much better - mark my words). But he's not managing anything. It's the same thing week after week - and then he gives it "they're not listening to me - it's very frustrating".

We'll play the same against Fylde - because he'll send them out the same against Fylde. Fylde are poor - but we'll be like lost schoolboys if they lob crosses into our box or play a long ball through (or over) our midfield because nobody knows what they're supposed to be doing.

And to be honest, playing for Pools, they bloody well should know exactly what they're doing.


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 Post subject: Re: highlights
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:35 am 
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Bromley's 3rd killed off the game but from where we watch near the halfway line their no.11 was clearly offside when the ball was played up to him (you can't see it from the highlights).


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 Post subject: Re: highlights
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:10 am 
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The gaps between the wing backs and wide center backs are getting exploited game after game, we desperately need full backs or wing backs who can defend


Cooke is a good player when teams stand off him but put him under any pressure he struggles and resorts to whining at the ref … would be a league one player if he could run faster than a pensioner


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 Post subject: Re: highlights
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:39 am 
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I am not too concerned about the midfield and attack. In my opinion Finney and Cooke are ok and Mani works hard up front . We worked hard to break Bromley down but they defend well. I hope Finney is not out to long. However, going back to the defence no team can stay in a league who concede every game. It puts too much stress on the forwards . I said in one of my posts last week that if Askey can’t get his defenders to defend he needs to find another way. Having 11 men behind the ball is another way. I know it’s not pretty but it could be used till the end of the season to keep us up. Askey needs a plan B because without a plan we are doomed. Looking at the fixtures over the Christmas period it’s do or die because against Chesterfield it could be a cricket score. Maybe against Fylde and the FA Trophy we could experiment. I know I’m not the manager but I don’t want to see Askey post match stating the same problems. I know we
Can’t go out and buy 2 new centre half’s but he has to find away. Defending in numbers is a way.


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 Post subject: Re: highlights
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:58 am 
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In fairness he tried to experiment v ebsfleet and it was such a shit show he had to go back to what they had been doing


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 Post subject: Re: highlights
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:34 am 
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harrogatepoolie wrote:
I am not too concerned about the midfield and attack. In my opinion Finney and Cooke are ok and Mani works hard up front . We worked hard to break Bromley down but they defend well. I hope Finney is not out to long. However, going back to the defence no team can stay in a league who concede every game. It puts too much stress on the forwards . I said in one of my posts last week that if Askey can’t get his defenders to defend he needs to find another way. Having 11 men behind the ball is another way. I know it’s not pretty but it could be used till the end of the season to keep us up. Askey needs a plan B because without a plan we are doomed. Looking at the fixtures over the Christmas period it’s do or die because against Chesterfield it could be a cricket score. Maybe against Fylde and the FA Trophy we could experiment. I know I’m not the manager but I don’t want to see Askey post match stating the same problems. I know we
Can’t go out and buy 2 new centre half’s but he has to find away. Defending in numbers is a way.


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 Post subject: Re: highlights
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:18 am 
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Has the option of 1inch thick Perspex sheeting over the goal
(transferable at half time to accompany our keeper) been considered….?
Although on seconds thoughts, knowing our luck, it would be buggered up by them putting it up from the start in the oppositions goal….. :roll:
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 Post subject: Re: highlights
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:12 am 
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I'd go 442

RB. Mano O. Mattock. Fergy

Wallace

Crawford. Burton

Cooke

Hastie. Mani D


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 Post subject: Re: highlights
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looking at the goals they seem a carbon copy of the ones scored for a few seasons now. in a few years time we could do a compilation videp of them to guess who the opponents were. its been going on since we dropped into non league the first time .


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 Post subject: Re: highlights
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It seems that we're just not picking men up, when teams attack us in open play they always seem to have a man in acres of space, similarly the zonal marking at set pieces is beyond them.
Why not just go back to each player being told who their man is and being responsible for having the beating of their opposition?
Worked since a football was first kicked, and especially for lower standard less technically gifted players. Over thinking and coaching is changing football for the worse imo.


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 Post subject: Re: highlights
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harrogatepoolie wrote:
I am not too concerned about the midfield and attack. In my opinion Finney and Cooke are ok and Mani works hard up front . We worked hard to break Bromley down but they defend well. I hope Finney is not out to long. However, going back to the defence no team can stay in a league who concede every game. It puts too much stress on the forwards . I said in one of my posts last week that if Askey can’t get his defenders to defend he needs to find another way. Having 11 men behind the ball is another way. I know it’s not pretty but it could be used till the end of the season to keep us up. Askey needs a plan B because without a plan we are doomed. Looking at the fixtures over the Christmas period it’s do or die because against Chesterfield it could be a cricket score. Maybe against Fylde and the FA Trophy we could experiment. I know I’m not the manager but I don’t want to see Askey post match stating the same problems. I know we
Can’t go out and buy 2 new centre half’s but he has to find away. Defending in numbers is a way.


Reading Crawford for Finney (one is a HUFC footballer, the other is a ...) there's a lot that I agree with in your post. Pools looked ok going forward, their play wasn't the disjointed mess it was when we were getting beat every week, but the defending was dreadful - on top of 4 goals Bromley missed a couple of sitters.

Manny O dropping out with illness on the morning of the game didn't help. Hastie isn't going to make a wing back in a million years because he can't tackle. Zak Johnson is really struggling now and it's no coincidence that Bromley's first 3 goals all came from Pools' right flank. We haven't got the personnel to make wholesale changes, even if Seaman and Manny are back next week. We should have enough to get some sort of a result down at Fylde but yes, I'm dreading Chesterfield at home. If we try to slug it out with them like we did at their place it won't end well!


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 Post subject: Re: highlights
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The first goal two of our men fail miserably to block the cross, one even jumping blindly out of the way incase the ball hits him, the second goal there are 4 Bromley players at the edge of the box being marked by 3 defenders, basic stuff, also a massive reluctance to put in a strong tackle on all 4 goals.

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 Post subject: Re: highlights
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When Cheek scored the first we had 6 SIX players inside the 6yd box.
Cheek just stepped away from them a couple of yards(Brains)


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 Post subject: Re: highlights
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Grayhoundend wrote:
When Cheek scored the first we had 6 SIX players inside the 6yd box.
Cheek just stepped away from them a couple of yards(Brains)


Saw that during the game - though I didn't have time to count exactly how many blue shirts were inside the 6 yard box! Schoolboy defending - I know because I was that schoolboy :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: highlights
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Flying Hogans wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
When Cheek scored the first we had 6 SIX players inside the 6yd box.
Cheek just stepped away from them a couple of yards(Brains)


Saw that during the game - though I didn't have time to count exactly how many blue shirts were inside the 6 yard box! Schoolboy defending - I know because I was that schoolboy :lol:


6 including the keeper


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 Post subject: Re: highlights
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:16 pm 
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Leggie43 wrote:
harrogatepoolie wrote:
I am not too concerned about the midfield and attack. In my opinion Finney and Cooke are ok and Mani works hard up front . We worked hard to break Bromley down but they defend well. I hope Finney is not out to long. However, going back to the defence no team can stay in a league who concede every game. It puts too much stress on the forwards . I said in one of my posts last week that if Askey can’t get his defenders to defend he needs to find another way. Having 11 men behind the ball is another way. I know it’s not pretty but it could be used till the end of the season to keep us up. Askey needs a plan B because without a plan we are doomed. Looking at the fixtures over the Christmas period it’s do or die because against Chesterfield it could be a cricket score. Maybe against Fylde and the FA Trophy we could experiment. I know I’m not the manager but I don’t want to see Askey post match stating the same problems. I know we
Can’t go out and buy 2 new centre half’s but he has to find away. Defending in numbers is a way.


My apologise getting Crawford mixed up with Finney. I’m more confused than our defenders. Then again if you’re not mad watching a Pools game you certainly will be after a few matches.

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 Post subject: Re: highlights
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Flying Hogans wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
When Cheek scored the first we had 6 SIX players inside the 6yd box.
Cheek just stepped away from them a couple of yards(Brains)


Saw that during the game - though I didn't have time to count exactly how many blue shirts were inside the 6 yard box! Schoolboy defending - I know because I was that schoolboy :lol:

all i see in every game i have seen is that the opposition seem to have one more player on the pitch than we have especially when both teams are attacking. we seem to have far less room than they get both home and away. do not think there is much in the speed of the build up between teams unless its a hopeful punt downfield.


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