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Sunak should have listened to LBJ!


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Suella for PM. I know it wont happen but just thought I would make my position on this absolutely clear. I just love the way she tore Sunak a new one. He will be squirming because he knows that every word she said is true.


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everytime i see or hear from sunak it makes starmer a really good alternative. people thought truss was poor but not as bad as a bloke who looks to have been first in line to get bullied at school.


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Suella for PM. I know it wont happen but just thought I would make my position on this absolutely clear. I just love the way she tore Sunak a new one. He will be squirming because he knows that every word she said is true.


Doesn’t bare thinking about, what’s she achieved, nought.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Suella for PM. I know it wont happen but just thought I would make my position on this absolutely clear. I just love the way she tore Sunak a new one. He will be squirming because he knows that every word she said is true.


Doesn’t bare thinking about, what’s she achieved, nought.

true. better to judge em all by there actions rather than cheap words or what their achievments in the job have actually been.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Suella for PM. I know it wont happen but just thought I would make my position on this absolutely clear. I just love the way she tore Sunak a new one. He will be squirming because he knows that every word she said is true.


Doesn’t bare thinking about, what’s she achieved, nought.


She has the balls to say in public what the majority of this country actually think. This is unique amongst mainstream politicians. Starmer who is scared to say what a woman is and as far as illegal immigration is concerned wants to open up more "safe routes". He will become PM. It is going to happen but it is a deeply depressing prospect. Sunak needs to go.


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Suella for PM. I know it wont happen but just thought I would make my position on this absolutely clear. I just love the way she tore Sunak a new one. He will be squirming because he knows that every word she said is true.


Doesn’t bare thinking about, what’s she achieved, nought.


She has the balls to say in public what the majority of this country actually think. This is unique amongst mainstream politicians. Starmer who is scared to say what a woman is and as far as illegal immigration is concerned wants to open up more "safe routes". He will become PM. It is going to happen but it is a deeply depressing prospect. Sunak needs to go.

which is the worst of the two evils. opening up safe routes or saying you,ll stop it with no real intention of ever doing it. never thought i,d ever feel that starmer is PM material but up to sunak he looks the best we have ever had. think you,ll get your wish of sunak going before the general election as who could really put a cross for a candidate whose leader is mr.softy.


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If Starmer gets in he won't do a full term. The Hard left have only allowed him to stay leader to get the party in. If he achieves that, which is likely at the moment, it won't take long for Momentum to get rid and install their puppet. Momentum know a hard left candidate won't get elected so they are taking a different approach. They have gone into hiding since Corbyn failed but will soon raise their presence to get Starmer out. As sure as night follows day.

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Is there any point in voting these days? They are all a muchness with the same ideas under a different umbrella.
Not matter who’s in charge they are never going to get a grip on immigration. It’s going to continue to grow and grow.
Reading today that the UK’s highest court has rejected the government’s plans to deport people seeking asylum to Rwanda. This is because of the consequences they may face if deported. Haven’t we heard that one before?
Get used to it.


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Oh I am used to it. The liberal left control all political discourse in this country and dominate every single one of our institutions from the National Trust to the legal system. This country has been fecked for quite some time with the interests of the majority completely excluded in favour of minorities.


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Her real name is Sue Ellen after her in Dallas. Her mother was a fan.

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BarryHarris57 wrote:
Is there any point in voting these days? They are all a muchness with the same ideas under a different umbrella.
Not matter who’s in charge they are never going to get a grip on immigration. It’s going to continue to grow and grow.
Reading today that the UK’s highest court has rejected the government’s plans to deport people seeking asylum to Rwanda. This is because of the consequences they may face if deported. Haven’t we heard that one before?
Get used to it.


Is there any point in voting at all sctatchinghead Does it really make any difference sctatchinghead Both parties are wearing the same shirt...Our lives are well preplanned it's all an allusion :wink:


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Now Sunaks hanging out of himself about halfing Inflation will he stick to his word of tax cuts he said earlier in the year.
Chancellor Hunt reckons its now to early for tax cuts.
Looking like anutha U Turn from this lot.
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Autumn Budget next week.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Now Sunaks hanging out of himself about halfing Inflation will he stick to his word of tax cuts he said earlier in the year.
Chancellor Hunt reckons its now to early for tax cuts.
Looking like anutha U Turn from this lot.
:angry-tappingfoot:
Autumn Budget next week.


Replace the ' H ' with a ' C ' when referring to the Chancellor :wink:


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Looks like Suella just blew £150 million of taxpayers money has the Supreme Court as ruled the Rwanda project is unlawful.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-67423745


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Britain's worst kept secret. Of course the court were going to rule against the government, its their favourite trick. The fact the government were voted into office with a large majority and therefore have a mandate to make laws is neither here nor there. The courts must protect the rights of those who have no business being here and feck public opinion.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Looks like Suella just blew £150 million of taxpayers money has the Supreme Court as ruled the Rwanda project is unlawful.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-67423745



Oh when the seekers come to England on a narna boat that many negroes it can hardly float.
And when they get to Dover tbey get a nice surprise.
4 years in a travel Lodge n a shitload of Freebies.
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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Britain's worst kept secret. Of course the court were going to rule against the government, its their favourite trick. The fact the government were voted into office with a large majority and therefore have a mandate to make laws is neither here nor there. The courts must protect the rights of those who have no business being here and feck public opinion.

and they bleat on about their human rights. these rights seem to be for them only and not 3 stabbed gays in reading or all the hundreds of kids groomed by filth because they lived in certain towns. how many other cases have been kept from us that might not be as serious but are happening. lets be kind but kind to our own first and any kindness we have left they can then have it. its about time the silent majority gets heard and not tarred as knuckle dragging far right racist loons.


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The Rwanda thing was never going to work, it was supposed to act as a deterrent, for a start they could only accommodate 200, a very naive and costly exercise over and above an aircraft permanently on hire to ship them there.
Will the U.K. get a refund from Rwanda if it all falls through ?


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We need to change the law to preclude asylum seekers from simply invading the country. As far as we are concerned they are invading our country from a EU country where they are safe and should be sent back there. Regarding those who are here, nobody who is classed as an illegal invader should be allowed to roam free until their case is heard.
The basics should be the maximum provided.
Get tough.

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derwent wrote:
We need to change the law to preclude asylum seekers from simply invading the country. As far as we are concerned they are invading our country from a EU country where they are safe and should be sent back there. Regarding those who are here, nobody who is classed as an illegal invader should be allowed to roam free until their case is heard.
The basics should be the maximum provided.
Get tough.


Why, you sound like a little Englander Derwent, a NIMBY, the U.K. take the least number of Asylum Seekers compared to the rest of Europe.
You forget the U.K. along with Americans backed the Arab Spring which has caused the Asylum Seekers numbers to surge.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
derwent wrote:
We need to change the law to preclude asylum seekers from simply invading the country. As far as we are concerned they are invading our country from a EU country where they are safe and should be sent back there. Regarding those who are here, nobody who is classed as an illegal invader should be allowed to roam free until their case is heard.
The basics should be the maximum provided.
Get tough.


Why, you sound like a little Englander Derwent, a NIMBY, the U.K. take the least number of Asylum Seekers compared to the rest of Europe.
You forget the U.K. along with Americans backed the Arab Spring which has caused the Asylum Seekers numbers to surge.


Not really bothered what I sound like Jamie. What is going to happen to this country is not going to affect me in particular cos I probably won't be around but as I care for my country I don't like where it is heading and fear for those I leave behind and subsequently the ones they in turn leave behind.
I haven't forgot anything but if I wrote down everything I know and have learnt over the years I'd get nowt done. :laugh:
As for the rest of Europe taking more than us, I bloody well hope so given the difference in size to them and us. Apart from that what they do is their business as long as it hasn't got a detrimental affect on us little Englanders in our own back yards. :wink:

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derwent wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
derwent wrote:
We need to change the law to preclude asylum seekers from simply invading the country. As far as we are concerned they are invading our country from a EU country where they are safe and should be sent back there. Regarding those who are here, nobody who is classed as an illegal invader should be allowed to roam free until their case is heard.
The basics should be the maximum provided.
Get tough.


Why, you sound like a little Englander Derwent, a NIMBY, the U.K. take the least number of Asylum Seekers compared to the rest of Europe.
You forget the U.K. along with Americans backed the Arab Spring which has caused the Asylum Seekers numbers to surge.


Not really bothered what I sound like Jamie. What is going to happen to this country is not going to affect me in particular cos I probably won't be around but as I care for my country I don't like where it is heading and fear for those I leave behind and subsequently the ones they in turn leave behind.
I haven't forgot anything but if I wrote down everything I know and have learnt over the years I'd get nowt done. :laugh:
As for the rest of Europe taking more than us, I bloody well hope so given the difference in size to them and us. Apart from that what they do is their business as long as it hasn't got a detrimental affect on us little Englanders in our own back yards. :wink:


With you all the way, Derwent. By the way, I am not sure what the Arab spring has to do with Albania, Somalia and other parts of Africa which provide small boat sailors. These people are economic migrants. If they are fleeing war and persecution why do they have to flee to the UK when almost every other safe Western European country could provide refuge. The reason is, we in the UK never deport regardless of the outcome of any asylum claim. They know thay once in the UK they are staying.


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
derwent wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
derwent wrote:
We need to change the law to preclude asylum seekers from simply invading the country. As far as we are concerned they are invading our country from a EU country where they are safe and should be sent back there. Regarding those who are here, nobody who is classed as an illegal invader should be allowed to roam free until their case is heard.
The basics should be the maximum provided.
Get tough.


Why, you sound like a little Englander Derwent, a NIMBY, the U.K. take the least number of Asylum Seekers compared to the rest of Europe.
You forget the U.K. along with Americans backed the Arab Spring which has caused the Asylum Seekers numbers to surge.


Not really bothered what I sound like Jamie. What is going to happen to this country is not going to affect me in particular cos I probably won't be around but as I care for my country I don't like where it is heading and fear for those I leave behind and subsequently the ones they in turn leave behind.
I haven't forgot anything but if I wrote down everything I know and have learnt over the years I'd get nowt done. :laugh:
As for the rest of Europe taking more than us, I bloody well hope so given the difference in size to them and us. Apart from that what they do is their business as long as it hasn't got a detrimental affect on us little Englanders in our own back yards. :wink:


With you all the way, Derwent. By the way, I am not sure what the Arab spring has to do with Albania, Somalia and other parts of Africa which provide small boat sailors. These people are economic migrants. If they are fleeing war and persecution why do they have to flee to the UK when almost every other safe Western European country could provide refuge. The reason is, we in the UK never deport regardless of the outcome of any asylum claim. They know thay once in the UK they are staying.


I said the Arab Spring caused numbers to surge, by all accounts any Albanian who arrives are sent straight back ? Many countries in Africa are in a state of unrest putting people lives at risk.


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Tired of the Marxist trope that we brought it on ourselves.


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According to the Tory panellist in Question Time last night 600600 legal immigrants arrived in the U.K. last year, where are they what are they doing and how the U.K. can process that number of visas which is around the population of a city but can’t process just under 160000 Asylum Claims ?


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Jamie1952 wrote:
[ the U.K. take the least number of Asylum Seekers compared to the rest of Europe.
You forget the U.K. along with Americans backed the Arab Spring which has caused the Asylum Seekers numbers to surge.

whilst its perfectly true about the numbers i do think you have to take into consideration the size and populations alredy across europe of other countries. You would hardly see them across the ones that are larger in space but here its really a birmingham size of a city coming in who will end up in all the larger cities and towns who are struggling for houses, schools and doctors already. as for the arab spring it shows yet again we should distance ourselves from the yanks and take a more neutral approach to foreign affairs.


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The Rwanda proposal is dead in the water it would take ages to get the issue to what the PM states and by then we will have had an election. It's simply a smokescreen to mask the fact the government has lost but it needs to keep the immigration issue to the front of peoples mind as its the only vote winner they have.
The UK needs the labour. The choice seems to be what colour?

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The UK needs the labour? Really? We need the labour of every increasing numbers of undocumented young men of fighting age arriving from who knows where with little to no skills? I know there is a need for car washers but I dont we need the numbers arriving on a daily basis.


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Part of the agreement this Government had with Rwanda has Clause 16 that refers to the resettlement of vulnerable refugees from Rwanda back to the U.K. Apparently there are 100,000 refugees, mainly Congolese.

Yes let's send 10,000 of our migrants and get 100,000 Congolese in return!

Rishi(t) needs putting on the next plane to Rwanda with all his Cabinet with a never to return label stuck on their arses.


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
The UK needs the labour? Really? We need the labour of every increasing numbers of undocumented young men of fighting age arriving from who knows where with little to no skills? I know there is a need for car washers but I dont we need the numbers arriving on a daily basis.

its the same flaw as we had with free movement across the eu. you had to take everyone and not just those who had the skills we wanted at the time. that made no sense and this idea makes even less.


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Due to no companies existing like ICI, British Steel, Shipbuilding yards, Coal Mines etc who trained up hundreds of apprentices every year and the reluctance of companies nowadays to train apprentices is the reason the U.K. have to import labour, cheap foreign labour.


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