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 Post subject: Cleveland or Durham
PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:17 pm 
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Question about Hartlepool it appears our homes are under Durham addresses yet our police & fire brigade stations are in Hartlepool but under Cleveland addresses. I had not noticed until asked today by a family member wanting to send a parcel from London. sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland or Durham
PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:33 pm 
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The postcodes are TS - so technically Teesside.

Given the choice DURHAM every time as we are north of the river and Cleveland and Teesside are mythical places.


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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland or Durham
PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:03 pm 
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The post codes mean nowt Blackhall has TS post codes
Cleveland ceased to exist in 1996, the county disappeared and boroughs to the North of Tees were classed as Durham and south of the Tees as Yorkshire for ceremonial purposes…they just stuck with the Cleveland tag on the police and fire service because no body could think of anything else.
Teesside was to divisive at they discovered.
The irony is Cleveland County was named after an area in North Yorkshire that wasn’t in the new county and used Roseberry Topping was in its logo which definitely wasn’t in Cleveland either.
It was a great deal for Middlesbrough, but the other partners were getting thrown scraps and wanted out…I can vouch for that no problem.

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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland or Durham
PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:23 pm 
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Snowy wrote:
The post codes mean nowt Blackhall has TS post codes
Cleveland ceased to exist in 1996, the county disappeared and boroughs to the North of Tees were classed as Durham and south of the Tees as Yorkshire for ceremonial purposes…they just stuck with the Cleveland tag on the police and fire service because no body could think of anything else.
Teesside was to divisive at they discovered.
The irony is Cleveland County was named after an area in North Yorkshire that wasn’t in the new county and used Roseberry Topping was in its logo which definitely wasn’t in Cleveland either.
It was a great deal for Middlesbrough, but the other partners were getting thrown scraps and wanted out…I can vouch for that no problem.


Thanks for that information Snowy now I understand a great deal more :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland or Durham
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I believe Blackball Rocks is TS but Blackball Colliery onwards is a Durham postcode, from mates I used to go to college with, back in the day.

But as Snowy said if you weren't in the borer you got the thin end of the wedge.


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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland or Durham
PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:54 pm 
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Kettering Poolie wrote:
I believe Blackball Rocks is TS but Blackball Colliery onwards is a Durham postcode, from mates I used to go to college with, back in the day.

But as Snowy said if you weren't in the borer you got the thin end of the wedge.


Aye, but the Rocks still has 0191 phone codes - unlike Wingate and the Trimdons that are 01429.

Confused...? You will be..!


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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland or Durham
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Go Ask Alice wrote:
Kettering Poolie wrote:
I believe Blackball Rocks is TS but Blackball Colliery onwards is a Durham postcode, from mates I used to go to college with, back in the day.

But as Snowy said if you weren't in the borer you got the thin end of the wedge.


Aye, but the Rocks still has 0191 phone codes - unlike Wingate and the Trimdons that are 01429.

Confused...? You will be..!

And Teesside has 01642….and Trimdon, Wingate and Castle Eden have TS post codes.

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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland or Durham
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its really about where your heart and mind are rather than post or phone codes. there are still residents of southport that refuse to put merseyside on their address as in their eyes its still in lancashire like it had been for years before.


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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland or Durham
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 9:29 am 
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Kettering Poolie wrote:
I believe Blackball Rocks is TS but Blackball Colliery onwards is a Durham postcode, from mates I used to go to college with, back in the day.

But as Snowy said if you weren't in the borer you got the thin end of the wedge.


Incorrect actually, all of the Blackhalls have a TS27 postcode, Rocks and Colliery, and have had for many decades, it's Horden and north of there that have the SR postcode.

Also the Hesledens and Castle Eden are TS postcodes too.

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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland or Durham
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On the Rightmove property website they also list Hartlepool as county Durham as does The AA.


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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland or Durham
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 10:18 am 
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Leggie43 wrote:
Question about Hartlepool it appears our homes are under Durham addresses yet our police & fire brigade stations are in Hartlepool but under Cleveland addresses. I had not noticed until asked today by a family member wanting to send a parcel from London. sctatchinghead


The village that I live in comes under Durham C.C., we have a TS postcode, an 01429 dialing code and are in the Parliamentary constituency of Easington. Go figure!!


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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland or Durham
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Its "British West Hartlepool" thats it.
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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland or Durham
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Stomper409 wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
Question about Hartlepool it appears our homes are under Durham addresses yet our police & fire brigade stations are in Hartlepool but under Cleveland addresses. I had not noticed until asked today by a family member wanting to send a parcel from London. sctatchinghead


The village that I live in comes under Durham C.C., we have a TS postcode, an 01429 dialing code and are in the Parliamentary constituency of Easington. Go figure!!


Yes it's quite silly really ..Best explained above by Snowy but definitely not what I thought I knew about our town.


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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland or Durham
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 8:26 pm 
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Coming back into town down the 689 and noticed the big Hartlepool Poster with the Trincomalee on has disappeared…don’t those new residents of that part of Wynyard want it be be known they live in Hartlepool…?

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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland or Durham
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Is Wynyard classed as Hartlepool - thought it was more Billingham, with it being close to Wolviston? sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland or Durham
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Snowy wrote:
Coming back into town down the 689 and noticed the big Hartlepool Poster with the Trincomalee on has disappeared…don’t those new residents of that part of Wynyard want it be be known they live in Hartlepool…?


I worked with a lad years ago, he said he lived in Wolviston in fact he lived in High Grange in a Barret house.

Land at Wynyard is split between two local authorities, Hartlepool Borough Council and Stockton-on-Tees Borough Council. The area also falls within two Parish Council areas Elwick Parish (within Hartlepool Borough) and Wynyard Parish (within Stockton-on-Tees Borough).

The residents of Wynyard pay their Council Tax to Stockton but for some reason any new developments go though Hartlepool Council. Looking on the net Wynyard is classed asCounty Durham.


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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland or Durham
PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:56 am 
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If you come down the A689 all housing to the North of there is in Hartlepool’s boundaries the only exception being the anomaly in the boundaries that puts the trading estate back into Stockton’s area.
The boundary lines are quite clearly marked on the Ordnance Survey map and we have family who moved into the new houses and if they pay their rates to Hartlepool Borough Council and a Hartlepool bin wagon and road sweeper turn up on a weekly basis you can safely assume your in Hartlepool territory.
Even the location of the ‘phantom hospital that never was’ to replace North Tees would have been in Hartlepool’s boundaries ….a great location for a local hospital if you don’t mind driving miles and have a car…otherwise not a good idea at all.
Wonder why they don’t build hospitals in town centres with easy access to transport links and amenities.

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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland or Durham
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first chance they get is to sell a town centre hospital and move it out into the wilds to offset the cost of the new building with what they,ll get for the land closer to town. on top of that they,d lose a packet on car parking charges if people could walk to the place.


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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland or Durham
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first chance they get is to sell a town centre hospital and move it out into the wilds to offset the cost of the new building with what they,ll get for the land closer to town. on top of that they,d lose a packet on car parking charges if people could walk to the place.


Any new hospital if one is ever built will be to serve Stockton and Hartlepool so I doubt very much the site would be in Hartlepool. The previous site which is now a housing estate would have more beneficial to Hartlepool just being the other side of the A19.


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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland or Durham
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Jamie1952 wrote:
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first chance they get is to sell a town centre hospital and move it out into the wilds to offset the cost of the new building with what they,ll get for the land closer to town. on top of that they,d lose a packet on car parking charges if people could walk to the place.


Any new hospital if one is ever built will be to serve Stockton and Hartlepool so I doubt very much the site would be in Hartlepool. The previous site which is now a housing estate would have more beneficial to Hartlepool just being the other side of the A19.

The original site for the new hospital was on the north side of the A689.
The plan fell through and houses are now being built there.
That land is inside Hartlepool’s boundaries therefore despite its lactation at Wynyard is on the border between Hartlepool and Stockton.
The only land within Stockton’s boundaries on the north side is the trading estate.
As for serving Stockton, when I was in there for a week I was told most people go over to James Cook hospital as it’s actually closer.
I was supposed to attend the outpatients there till they discovered that the same outpatients service was offered at Hartlepool but was told it’s easier to come to North Tees as Hartlepool is always busy sctatchinghead …I opted for Hartlepool and it is busy.

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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland or Durham
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Snowy wrote:
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first chance they get is to sell a town centre hospital and move it out into the wilds to offset the cost of the new building with what they,ll get for the land closer to town. on top of that they,d lose a packet on car parking charges if people could walk to the place.


Any new hospital if one is ever built will be to serve Stockton and Hartlepool so I doubt very much the site would be in Hartlepool. The previous site which is now a housing estate would have more beneficial to Hartlepool just being the other side of the A19.

The original site for the new hospital was on the north side of the A689.
The plan fell through and houses are now being built there.
That land is inside Hartlepool’s boundaries therefore despite its lactation at Wynyard is on the border between Hartlepool and Stockton.
The only land within Stockton’s boundaries on the north side is the trading estate.
As for serving Stockton, when I was in there for a week I was told most people go over to James Cook hospital as it’s actually closer.
I was supposed to attend the outpatients there till they discovered that the same outpatients service was offered at Hartlepool but was told it’s easier to come to North Tees as Hartlepool is always busy sctatchinghead …I opted for Hartlepool and it is busy.


There is now talk that North Tees and South Tees Health Authorities are going to amalgamate to save money let’s hope they get rid of some of the CE’s on £250k a year who have no medical experience whatsoever. Of course they will walk away with a severance and a gold plated pension, I can’t believe how the general public sit back and take it up the a*** !


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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland or Durham
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
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first chance they get is to sell a town centre hospital and move it out into the wilds to offset the cost of the new building with what they,ll get for the land closer to town. on top of that they,d lose a packet on car parking charges if people could walk to the place.


Any new hospital if one is ever built will be to serve Stockton and Hartlepool so I doubt very much the site would be in Hartlepool. The previous site which is now a housing estate would have more beneficial to Hartlepool just being the other side of the A19.

The original site for the new hospital was on the north side of the A689.
The plan fell through and houses are now being built there.
That land is inside Hartlepool’s boundaries therefore despite its lactation at Wynyard is on the border between Hartlepool and Stockton.
The only land within Stockton’s boundaries on the north side is the trading estate.
As for serving Stockton, when I was in there for a week I was told most people go over to James Cook hospital as it’s actually closer.
I was supposed to attend the outpatients there till they discovered that the same outpatients service was offered at Hartlepool but was told it’s easier to come to North Tees as Hartlepool is always busy sctatchinghead …I opted for Hartlepool and it is busy.


There is now talk that North Tees and South Tees Health Authorities are going to amalgamate to save money let’s hope they get rid of some of the CE’s on £250k a year who have no medical experience whatsoever. Of course they will walk away with a severance and a gold plated pension, I can’t believe how the general public sit back and take it up the a*** !

I attended a meeting via my last job where concerns were expressed on how people without cars had a tough job getting to North Tees and an old lady explained she had to get three buses from the Headland then the same back, but the time and money spent on transport alone was a annoying she said.
The Chief executive rather nonchalantly retorted that nowadays everyone has access to a car or someone with a car..well if your asking your friends for a lift through there all the time, you’ll soon have no friends. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Cleveland or Durham
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Jamie1952 wrote:
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There is now talk that North Tees and South Tees Health Authorities are going to amalgamate to save money let’s hope they get rid of some of the CE’s on £250k a year who have no medical experience whatsoever. Of course they will walk away with a severance and a gold plated pension, I can’t believe how the general public sit back and take it up the a*** !

more likely a chief CE will be appointed on 300k a year to oversee the present two who will keep their jobs. the savings will be on those at the coal face who will see the cuts and extra work for the same money.


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I attended a meeting via my last job where concerns were expressed on how people without cars had a tough job getting to North Tees and an old lady explained she had to get three buses from the Headland then the same back, but the time and money spent on transport alone was a annoying she said.
The Chief executive rather nonchalantly retorted that nowadays everyone has access to a car or someone with a car..well if your asking your friends for a lift through there all the time, you’ll soon have no friends. :roll:

just the modern shit attitude many have now if you have not got something they have and they expect you to have for no other reason. internet access and smart phones and use of cash are another where you are frowned on if you want to use the latter and do not posess the first two.


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