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 Post subject: Re: Southend v Pools predictions
PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2023 8:08 pm 
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Have to say that I thought I was watching a different game to some of the above comments. Southend were a very tidy side. We were under the cosh for long parts of the game but we won because we defended well and were clinical up front. Not one Pools player struck me as less than a 7 and most were at least 8.

I hope Southend and Pools bounce back together as they are both proper old school clubs and have both suffered from the scum that infects lower league ownership.


Agree we were under the cosh at times. Southend very rarely gave the ball away so our midfielders had to be tenacious to win the ball back. Still a worrying number of crosses pinged into our box at it was every man to pumps at which is how Mani got his head injury.


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Also a big shout out to the Ref today and the linesmen, all were good and kept the game flowing and wasn't fooled by some dives. I would say 9 out of 10 for him. If only all refs were like him in this league.


Agree ref was good aside from being conned into giving a free kick for a shoulder charge from Fergy on Powell who went down as if shot. It was only a few yards from where I was sitting.


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I was at the game


I was up set no one joined in with me singing

"What's that coming over the hill is it the Taxman, is it the Taxman." :laugh: :laugh:


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
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Also a big shout out to the Ref today and the linesmen, all were good and kept the game flowing and wasn't fooled by some dives. I would say 9 out of 10 for him. If only all refs were like him in this league.


Agree ref was good aside from being conned into giving a free kick for a shoulder charge from Fergy on Powell who went down as if shot. It was only a few yards from where I was sitting.

Yeah holding his leg or ankle then gets up and runs off. Was that the one?


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ZNB12 wrote:
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Also a big shout out to the Ref today and the linesmen, all were good and kept the game flowing and wasn't fooled by some dives. I would say 9 out of 10 for him. If only all refs were like him in this league.


Agree ref was good aside from being conned into giving a free kick for a shoulder charge from Fergy on Powell who went down as if shot. It was only a few yards from where I was sitting.

Yeah holding his leg or ankle then gets up and runs off. Was that the one?


Yeah it was early in the first half. We were all dishing out abuse to Powell and the lino. The stewards were all lookin "ard". Then a few seconds after play resumed someone shouted "Powell ya cheating c**t".


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ZNB12 wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

I was at the game


I was up set no one joined in with me singing

"What's that coming over the hill is it the Taxman, is it the Taxman." :laugh: :laugh:


I joined in with a few of the songs but must confess I didn't hear the taxman song.


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Yep, but that's what I'm saying. How many refs would have booked Ferguson for that. He just said calm down and get on with it.


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Roots Hall is falling apart big time. All the seats in the rest of the North Bank, don't have a safety certificate. Or that North West Corner. The roof is unsafe.


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Great effort from them today, kept going and got 3 good goals. Mancini mom, not just for the touches and effort but when he got stuck in it lifted the fans and the other pools players. As has been said, we still look vulnerable from crosses and we sat back a lot without closing them down - perhaps that was the plan?
I also thought the Ref had a really good game, noticeable as that is unheard of in this league!


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Bostonpoolie wrote:
Great effort from them today, kept going and got 3 good goals. Mancini mom, not just for the touches and effort but when he got stuck in it lifted the fans and the other pools players. As has been said, we still look vulnerable from crosses and we sat back a lot without closing them down - perhaps that was the plan?
I also thought the Ref had a really good game, noticeable as that is unheard of in this league!


This is why I didn’t give seaman a higher mark, few too many crosses coming
In, though he did well with the ball


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Well done the lads. Bring on AFC Fylde.


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ZNB12 wrote:
Yep, but that's what I'm saying. How many refs would have booked Ferguson for that. He just said calm down and get on with it.


Booked? It wasn't even a foul.


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
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Yep, but that's what I'm saying. How many refs would have booked Ferguson for that. He just said calm down and get on with it.


Booked? It wasn't even a foul.


In a different game with a different Ref, Ferguson would have been booked for Powell play acting...


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It’s been a good start to the season as we’ve proven we will pick up points in the division against some of the better sides, a far cry from the last time we were relegated.

Today I thought we were value for a point but took a really good away win home. Defensively we still look terrible from crosses and think the central midfield area is lacking in pace and bite. Pools just a couple players short for me. Also thought - despite his assist - that Wreh was well off it. But we have Umerah to come back in, with Grey notching today too.

Mancini is a joy to watch. The team are a joy to watch at the moment. If we beat Fylde next Saturday, we are already looking at a potential promotion humdinger at Chesterfield, which are the games we all want to be involved in. Long may it continue.

If ever there was a time to invest in a team to complete the jigsaw, it’s now. Askey with the addition of a bit more quality and we will have a very good chance at a top 4 finish. Open the book!


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You can only receive DAB Tees locally.


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The commentary was obviously by the BBC Radio Essex reporter covering Pools but I quite enjoyed it and his observation that while Southend enjoyed the majority of the play, it’s what you do with the play you’ve got that counts and despite knocking the ball about in an admirable way, Southend sensed
they were going nowhere.
Pools invited them in but never let them in.

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Snowy wrote:
The commentary was obviously by the BBC Radio Essex reporter covering Pools but I quite enjoyed it and his observation that while Southend enjoyed the majority of the play, it’s what you do with the play you’ve got that counts and despite knocking the ball about in an admirable way, Southend sensed
they were going nowhere.
Pools invited them in but never let them in.


Unfortunately we invited them in and offered them two drinks on the house. For as impressive as Askey has been, one area for improvement is his clean sheet record. We’re still waiting for his first one.


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thebigdog wrote:
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The commentary was obviously by the BBC Radio Essex reporter covering Pools but I quite enjoyed it and his observation that while Southend enjoyed the majority of the play, it’s what you do with the play you’ve got that counts and despite knocking the ball about in an admirable way, Southend sensed
they were going nowhere.
Pools invited them in but never let them in.


Unfortunately we invited them in and offered them two drinks on the house. For as impressive as Askey has been, one area for improvement is his clean sheet record. We’re still waiting for his first one.

as long as we outscore teams its not a problem. its a nice situation to be in where in the past a team that scored first against us has seen us fighting for nothing but a draw. everyone knows that one day we,ll hit the woodwork a few times, a keeper will have the match of his lifetime and they,ll clear shots off the line and then go to score a couple on the break that we should have dealt with better. its just football and all teams that rely totally on clean sheets also have their own problems when things do not go their way.


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It’s been a good start to the season as we’ve proven we will pick up points in the division against some of the better sides, a far cry from the last time we were relegated.

Today I thought we were value for a point but took a really good away win home. Defensively we still look terrible from crosses and think the central midfield area is lacking in pace and bite. Pools just a couple players short for me. Also thought - despite his assist - that Wreh was well off it. But we have Umerah to come back in, with Grey notching today too.

Mancini is a joy to watch. The team are a joy to watch at the moment. If we beat Fylde next Saturday, we are already looking at a potential promotion humdinger at Chesterfield, which are the games we all want to be involved in. Long may it continue.

If ever there was a time to invest in a team to complete the jigsaw, it’s now. Askey with the addition of a bit more quality and we will have a very good chance at a top 4 finish. Open the book!

one quality defensive midfielder who is an upgrade on what we had with sylla would be worth his weight in gold.


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any pools win away should be celebrated no matter how they happen. something over the years i have not witnessed live on too many occasions. by the end of september we,ll have more idea of how the season is going to pan out with results or any new players coming in.


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Watched the very brief highlights whilst Seaman’s was a great individual strike I thought the second goal was excellent with neat build up play.


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mentioning seaman can doncaster recall him at any time. they seem to be having a start like we did last season. these loans seem to have different things about them what teams can or cannot do.


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I believe season long loans rules are different to short term ones and if they are not recalled within a certain time they must stay for the season. Last season Ellis Taylor was a season long loan but Sunderland agreed to take him back early but they were not obliged too.


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any pools win away should be celebrated no matter how they happen. something over the years i have not witnessed live on too many occasions. by the end of september we,ll have more idea of how the season is going to pan out with results or any new players coming in.


We sure as heck celebrated! Something extra special about winning a game when you have been behind twice. Best live Pools game I have seen for quite some time. UTP


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thebigdog wrote:
Snowy wrote:
The commentary was obviously by the BBC Radio Essex reporter covering Pools but I quite enjoyed it and his observation that while Southend enjoyed the majority of the play, it’s what you do with the play you’ve got that counts and despite knocking the ball about in an admirable way, Southend sensed
they were going nowhere.
Pools invited them in but never let them in.


Unfortunately we invited them in and offered them two drinks on the house. For as impressive as Askey has been, one area for improvement is his clean sheet record. We’re still waiting for his first one.

I can live with that, no problem …especially as they gave us three drinks back :laugh:

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I believe season long loans rules are different to short term ones and if they are not recalled within a certain time they must stay for the season. Last season Ellis Taylor was a season long loan but Sunderland agreed to take him back early but they were not obliged too.


According to an article in the local Doncaster paper when he signed, "The 23-year-old’s loan features a break clause in January."

Just have to hope they buck up their ideas by then - they're 2nd bottom at the minute.


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Excellent unexpected points return so far from a tough August fixtures list.
September's games look a bit easier on paper.
Early days but cautious optimism slowly returning. Defense is a work in progress but not overly concerned as we look good in attack.
UTP.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Excellent unexpected points return so far from a tough August fixtures list.
September's games look a bit easier on paper.
Early days but cautious optimism slowly returning. Defense is a work in progress but not overly concerned as we look good in attack.
UTP.

The defence makes up with maximum effort to cover any other failings it may have, but time should sort that out.

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I was watching the highlights and comparing them with what I actually saw and realized that apart from the two goals, Southend didn't have any other shot on target. It sure as heck didn't feel like that at the time. Plenty of dangerous crosses plus a few goal mouth scrambles and last ditch blocks but no shot requiring saves. As you say the defence worked its collective bollocks off defending balls into the box which could not be stopped. Also highlights showed their wing back turning Ferguson inside out: it was at the far end of the ground from where I was so I didnt see very well but it looked embarrassing. Not crticizing Ferguson in any way, he was doing everything he could but was dealing with a very good opponent.


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Comment from the Southend Echo:
"The Monkeyhangers were certainly the strongest side Blues have played this season and, on this showing, will be pushing towards the top of the table."


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Also highlights showed their wing back turning Ferguson inside out: it was at the far end of the ground from where I was so I didnt see very well but it looked embarrassing. Not crticizing Ferguson in any way, he was doing everything he could but was dealing with a very good opponent.

fans need to realise that this can happen and not always put the blame on our players. fylde next saturday can just as easily have our forward line in their pockets as we can give their defence a torrid time. no one goes out on the pitch to have a bad game but circumstances like the opponents on the day can have a big say in the matter.


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Also highlights showed their wing back turning Ferguson inside out: it was at the far end of the ground from where I was so I didnt see very well but it looked embarrassing. Not crticizing Ferguson in any way, he was doing everything he could but was dealing with a very good opponent.

fans need to realise that this can happen and not always put the blame on our players. fylde next saturday can just as easily have our forward line in their pockets as we can give their defence a torrid time. no one goes out on the pitch to have a bad game but circumstances like the opponents on the day can have a big say in the matter.


Yes, agreed. Thats why I made a point of saying I was not criticizing Ferguson.


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Been impressed with the wide play of both Barnet and Southend so far, not sure if that’s our wingbacks or just we have come up against some good wingers.

The lad for Barnet particularly was very good


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Yep Kanu the Barnet lad caused problems all afternoon. Lucky for us the Southend wing back couldn't sustain it. He faded as the second half wore on.


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Been impressed with the wide play of both Barnet and Southend so far, not sure if that’s our wingbacks or just we have come up against some good wingers.

The lad for Barnet particularly was very good


Southends biggest challenge tomorrow, In court.


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Wishing Southend United FC and particulary their fans all the best for tomorrow.


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loyal_fan wrote:
Been impressed with the wide play of both Barnet and Southend so far, not sure if that’s our wingbacks or just we have come up against some good wingers.

The lad for Barnet particularly was very good


Southends biggest challenge tomorrow, In court.


Pretty sure they'll be Ok.


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If its not paid a 10 points deduction awaits.


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Southend United have been granted a final 42-day adjournment of their winding-up petition by the High Court to complete the sale of the club.
Owner Ron Martin told the court a sale to an unnamed Australian buyer should be finalised by the end of September.
The takeover must now be finalised by their return to court on 4 October.
The judge warned Martin the club, founded in 1906, would be wound up if that deadline was missed.
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I notice the reference in the report by the BBC the the owner saying it ‘should’ be done in six weeks. I suspect he might consider changing the word ‘should’ to ‘will’ as the buffers appear to be coming into sight in the distance.
End of the line….?

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Well they will have the 10 point deduction now and have negative points!


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Also a big shout out to the Ref today and the linesmen, all were good and kept the game flowing and wasn't fooled by some dives. I would say 9 out of 10 for him. If only all refs were like him in this league.


Yes good ref who is apparently being fast tracked up the leagues after I believe is only 18 months in the job. The linesman got the second Southend goal wrong it was offside.


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Well they will have the 10 point deduction now and have negative points!

10 point deduction with immediate effect.
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So they’re on minus 4 points….. it’ll either make them or break them as a team.

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Ron Martin (Owner/Chairman) has surely played his last cards and if he doesn't pay HMRC within the next 4 weeks, SARFEND will no longer be.

If that happens we have lost 3 points! Along with Dorking!


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Ron Martin (Owner/Chairman) has surely played his last cards and if he doesn't pay HMRC within the next 4 weeks, SARFEND will no longer be.

If that happens we have lost 3 points! Along with Dorking!

3 points lost :shock: :shock: …. :shock: we’d best organise a whip round to help out poor Ron. :laugh:

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its absolute bullshit that we should loose the 3 points - i know thats the rules and the bad luck we faced them early on but i knew it would be Pools' luck for this to happen - called it weeks ago on here and the other forum (as well as the pub pre match).

But it does give us an extra game in hand - one that i hope we take 3 points from at a vital time to see us win the league !

If they are expelled - will the League re organise fixtures (alright for Oldham getting shot of a game an -3 points). Or just have weekends off for teams meaning to play them with the teams that have played them pick up the extra fixture during say Cup game period or will we see some extra games being organised come end of season ? cannot remember this sort of thing happening recently when Pools have played in the same league as team being kicked out, not only that but winning said team already in the fixtures.


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If Southend continue to play until October 4th, thats roughly another 10 games they will be playing. Depending on how many games they lose between now & then, it could be nearly half the league losing 3 points, it won't be as much of a problem to us if they had been expelled from the league today & we had lost our 3 points.


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I don't think they will be expelled from the league per se but that the High Court make an order of insolvency which would mean they cannot continue.

The continuing problem created by Ron Martin is his failure to pay HMRC on time and when/if he eventually does he is then behind by another 3/4 months. This isn't a recent problem but a continuation for at least 2 years (some supporters say 10 years?).

He mentions (Martin) an Aussie consortium are now interested in purchasing the Club but is this another one of his stories? But who is going to be interested with monies owed all over the place and the team rock bottom on -4 points?

I believe the Club have only 15 registered players and are not allowed to sign anyone else on, so if injuries occur ( or player bans) will the team be made up of Youth players etc.

A sorry tale especially for the thousands of their supporters.

Really the League should not have allowed them to start the season.


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