Looks like we've got one incoming - York City midfielder

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/ ... ch-4257435

Could definitely do with another midfielder - particularly a ball winner. Looks like he might fit the bill.

I'm wondering when Wallace will be back, he was brought in to add some steel to the midfield so looking forward to him getting fit.

York fans reckon hes on his way to us, Pulled himself out of the squad last night not long before the game.
May have even been on the team sheet.

Yes and the manager was not impressed.

The link above says he was named as a substitute. Their manager says he's not involved in transfer negotiations so it may have been taken out of his hands.

well if it is not us it will be someone else coming in for him. again its quite similar to the armstrong situation at harrogate. if we do sign the lad there will be bound for someone popping up saying he has a bad attitude the first time he has a bad game because whats happening now.

If it happens to us and it’s our player it’s a diabolical outrage.
If it happens to someone else and we are the poachers, it’s sour grapes….get over it.
We are hypocrites us fans

His stats are class - he was the best ball winning CM in this league last season. also creates !

JA knows him and has worked with him . Yorks new manager is crap and doesnt have a clue he will be busting a gut to be away especially if its to work under JA again here. Sounds like hes been played as a No10 too way out of position. Uggla also cocking things up already down there.

these people like him demand instant success after putting their money in. they will walk away as quickly as they arrived and would be the same with the wanks at wrexham if that had turned sour at the outset. sounds like what we need and JA will know all about him so it would not be a big gamble. another ex york player might also be available as akil wright, another defensive mid fielder or right sided defender is out in the cold with challinor and not kicked a ball yet this season. my lads blowing a gasket already about this especially with their bad start.

You need a ‘Hand’s off’ with owners, NOT a ‘Hand’s on’ one.

Still no updates on this player so if he is "incoming" he is travelling on foot pushing a heavy hand cart.

Pybus meaning

English (Yorkshire and Durham):: perhaps a nickname for someone with a prickly temperament from Middle English pikebush 'prickle bush' later simplified to Pybus(h) or Pybus(k). The word probably denoted a plant such as bramble gorse or wild rose.

Interesting eh

I read somewhere that York are interested in getting JA back which, if true, could mean that Pybus will stay put and might be the reason the alleged move has all gone quiet. I'm not sure that JA would be too keen on working for Uggla but you never know.
I really hope this is just another figment of some shit stirrer's imagination.
We've just got going and is the last thing we need.

Surely the Chairman has learnt his lesson and wouldn’t let another good manager slip through our hands. They aren’t easy to find after all…

You've got that in one I'd say.

The Fail hasn't done a follow up to its story about Pybus - there's many a slip twixt cup and lip and what the slip is is pure guesswork at the minute.
If all else fails we'll know a bit more when the York squad for their game at Aldershot is announced.

Incidentally, one of our own, Tommy Widdrington, is the current Aldershot manager. Tommy's a Geordie product of Wallsend Boys Club, but he finished his playing career at Salisbury City and stayed down there.

A good lad was Tommy. I gather his son is in the Shots team. Must be awkward on the training ground and in the dressing room at times.

Funny how the machinations of what’s happening at York and the tenuous link when one of their players isn’t in the team can ignite the imagination of those who see intrigue in every banal move.

if he does sign i,ll swap surnames with him as his sounds more suited to me.

He is back on the bench for today's game

Without letting my suspicious mind run riot, I noticed that Sweeney did the post match interview the other night and I can't find a pre match JA interview for today. Can somebody point me in the direction of an interview, if one exists because I'm really getting concerned now.
Please not again.

He did one for Radio Tees through the week. There's probably a quicker way but if you search 'Radio Tees Sport John Askey' you'll find it.

He's put Tony Sweeney up for post-match interviews before - he's not a gobshite like Keith Curle who loves the sound of his own voice. In fact, he often gives the impression he finds being interviewed a bit of a chore.

I cannot find anything about JA. One thing mentioned on twitter is " announce Timmy " maybe his coming home

Thanks Mr F, found it and having listened carefully to the interview I didn't get any vibes one way or the other, so fingers crossed the rumour is bullshit.
I do like Sweeney's interviews. Talks a lot of sense our Tony does.

Sure you didn't dream that? York's team and bench is available now and there's no sign of him.

Paddy McLaughlin is playing - where's that promotion squad Uggla is supposed to be buying? Paddy was tripe 5 years ago

Was told by a York fan

he was missing from the weekends match day squad again.

hope the lad is coming to us tbh - missing 2 games now and a key man for them so something is up

We'd all be happy to sign a player who is basically doing what Mo Sylla is doing at Pools now?

basically yeh - but Sylla cant and wont play for us ever again so we need to replace him

I haven't a clue how far Sylla and the club are apart but there must be room for movement on both sides to achieve an amicable solution.
This situation isn't good for Sylla or the club.
The window shuts soon so the chances of someone coming in for him are rapidly disappearing unless it is another non league club.
Have we got the classic case of an irresistible force meeting an immovable object or what.

Derwent i believe we may have -

although it would be quite the spectacle having 2 of our CMs (and arguably better players) both shouting at each other in French. Cooke would have to get his French dictionary out.

but i think JA and the rest of the squad would not want him back either due to what has went on.

the footballing world i.e other managers etc will know of this shithousery and not entertain the man either

So the plan is to replace a midfielder who refused to play for us and who none of us want to see in a Pools shirt again, with another midfielder currently refusing to play for his own club

I know nowt about this Pybus but it shows a lot about his character.

It might be best to reserve judgement on that till the deal happens - if it ever does.

York's manager had a good moan a week ago, but it still isn't clear whether Pybus was actually 'on strike' or whether the York city hierarchy were in negotiations with Pools and prepared to let him go.

Then there's Luke James - he went on strike in 2014 to get his move to Peterborough, but we had him back twice - once on loan from Posh in 2015 and then on a contract for 2 seasons from 2018. Nowt wrong with Luke's character once he got on the pitch (though God punished him by taking away his shooting boots when he walked away from us )

we have been through all this before with sylla, then onto luke armstrong and now its onto pybus. if we got pissed off with our job we just found another. when footballers want away from their present side they have to ask for a transfer. if this is refused by their club what else can they do but become unavailable to play in a watch. people need to put themselves in the players place and think how they would feel themselves if you put your notice in and was refused by your employer. just because they have signed a contract for X number of years should have nothing to do with it. you can never really stop clubs tapping up players who are on contract somewhere else, but if this can be proved then really big fines should be placed on them.

So what’s the point of contracts then…?
So you believe any player can just come and go as the fancy takes them…?
You’d have a constant spinning door of players in and out and no club can build a team with constant change.
It might be viable in normal jobs but it would be financial suicide for clubs.

On the subject of ‘Pie on a Bus’…..this is a lot of speculation on something that is just ….speculation’.

yes. if he was a player at say eastleigh doing the same none of us would ever have heard of him or his situation. its because its york and JA being manager there previously.

what sometimes happens in these situations and from the outside does make the player look a twat is the following:

1. Said players agent is tapped up - he then asks/tells the club the player is off or can he be bought.
2. Said player strikes a deal and is awaiting parent clubs response
3. Parent club is either dragging their heals on the matter or has said yes you can leave but not yet...
4. negotiations break down in the latter i,e too close to a game or another player becomes injured or leaves and said player is now needed.
5. New club doesnt want their potential new player to play incase of injury so tell him to vacate the squad etc.
6. all becomes a mess and player looks a twat
7. dummys are out the pram and nothing happens - player doesnt get the move
8. player returns to parent club in the starting 11 (maybe if hes that good) then all is forgotten after a game (like we thought with Sylla).

a contract is more of a security measure for players rather than clubs. did pools hand out 2 year contracts to some of hartleys heroes because they wanted to do or thought they,d walk away after a few months. was possibly the game changer to whether they,d sign or not. it can work both ways and i doubt any fan would be happy with a substandard player just seeing out a contract with us and refusing any type of move away therefore earning money for sod all.

think you have put all those points in the correct order. just wonder how much agents can get the blame from what happens at the outset and the cause of negociations going on for as long as they do now. we have heard this when we sign an out of contract player who says that interest started say in may but it took until now to get everything sorted out. now was actually july.

Story I heard was Pybus was m.o.m in first two games but he was on bench for next one. He approached manager and was told the chairman wanted new signings to play. He then did the usual and said he was not in the right frame of mind to play. True who knows. Also York do not want him to come to Hartlepool.

It should be a contract for both party’s, otherwise it’s not a contract.
I think it only fair and reasonable that the club’s interests should be protected as well, or every petulant player can take a hissy fit and sail off into the sunset.
As for Wee Jock Mc Ploppy and his signings, they may well have got a generous contract term, but the club picks up the bill for the two years in the end.
The alternative would be the club being allowed to sack players if they were injured or just not very good,.
If there’s a contract the club has to pay up, so if there’s a contract the player should play and grow up.

He,s Yorks player till 2025 i believe.

If its true we want him, Then its up to Raj and Uggla,s mam to broker a deal.
And they don,t need the dosh, Maybe Sylla + Dosh,lol.

It’s very difficult to sack anyone no matter what employment they are in, I have a mate who was a factory manager in industry. They knew there was slackers/bad time keepers in the factory but you just couldn’t sack them unless it was for gross industrial conduct, and they knew it. In the end they were offered a renumeration to leave.

especially since the setting up of departments like human resources are now called. they have not a clue whats going on like the bloke i knew who was on a final waening for timekeeping and he would get a revue after 6 months. he went on the sick for 5 of those 6 months and actually got applauded for his improvement in time keeping.

play the system.... our dole walling friends for years have somehow cracked it and living off the state. As well as those creaming the disability benefit with not so much as a broken fingernail in 10 years they have been draining it ! But anyways thats a conversation for another day in another setting !!!

anyways its a funny situation - York have a CM whos stats speak for themselves and after 2 MOM appearances still want to look to replace him yet not part ways with him - kills all morale and team spirit - kills the mood of the player and when he does play no doubt wont be happy. Have to treat these lads differently these days im afraid !

It was what, 2 or 3 months ago when the FA rolled out a new non league player contract template to be mandatory for level 5 and 6 I believe. The players played holy f*ck because the clubs would've had the right to stop paying injured or sick players after 3 months. They said they wanted security and the contract wass amended. Now they can't have it all ways, if they sign a contract they should honour it or negotiate a way out not just down tools. Doesn't matter if it's us or Manchester City the same standards should apply. They get paid to provide the club a service, no service no pay and no release.

Agree 100%, it's funny how some of our fans opinions on striking players change when it's us trying to get our hands on the wantaway player cos he might do a job for us, we've all slated Sylla for doing exactly the same as this Pybus is doing at York now, I couldn't give a shite whether he is the next Sergio Busquets I wouldn't touch him, seems like when the going gets tough this fanny chucks his toys.

Signed for Dorking.

Well that can be put to bed then.
A midfielder with 2 goals in 161 appearances. Dorking average gate1,962 last season……. so he can’t have been attracted by the big time.