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 Post subject: Jeff Stelling
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 4:03 pm 
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Quote " You always hope you are not going to end up in this position but there's no getting away from it - we've had a catastrophic season with some diabolical decisions and now we're paying the price "


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Stelling
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 4:56 pm 
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If you are reading this forum Jeff and I know you do please convince the Chairman that his money will be better looked after by having the right man running the club. Yes he owns it but but if he owned a hospital he wouldn't be doing operations would he. Talk Russ into coming back or someone like him who knows the operation of a football club backwards.

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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Stelling
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Well said here here


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Stelling
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I get the impression Jeff & Raj are not on good terms so highly unlikely he would be able to talk him into anything. Maybe Jeff could persuade a wealthy friend to buy Raj out bbolt


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Stelling
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sctatchinghead Maybe JS could get a Sky Sports Consortium together.
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Imagine his fellow sky actors are taking the piss for being President of a twice relegated club to non league.



Yet again the fans are the main losers.
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Cant imagine any potential new owners doing a deal with Sing.
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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Stelling
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[quote="kevin pooles gloves"]sctatchinghead Maybe JS could get a Sky Sports Consortium together.
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Imagine his fellow sky actors are taking the piss for being President of a twice relegated club to non league.



Yet again the fans are the main losers.
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Yes Kev its a sad sad time right now but we can only hope :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Stelling
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Surely someone or group of someone’s can come in, we are genuinely a relatively big club in the league below, not sure I could face another few years of 1-0 home defeats to dorking and kings Lynn


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Stelling
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Surely someone or group of someone’s can come in, we are genuinely a relatively big club in the league below, not sure I could face another few years of 1-0 home defeats to dorking and kings Lynn

well where have they been hiding all these years. if they did turn up i,d need some convincing of there good intentions if they are unknowns to the area. best thing jeff can do is to introduce people with money to the vic in the hope he can unearth another andy holt of accrington to turn us around. thats how he came to them by just bringing him to a game and he fell in love with the place. there is nowhere better than the vic on a good day.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Stelling
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The more we think about it/discuss it the more that reality tell us that what we dream about is simply out of our grasp. They just aren't queueing up to pump their hard earned brass into Pools.
I don't know what image the club puts across to put people off but surely it is their chance to change all that but still they are reluctant.

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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Stelling
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The more we think about it/discuss it the more that reality tell us that what we dream about is simply out of our grasp. They just aren't queueing up to pump their hard earned brass into Pools.
I don't know what image the club puts across to put people off but surely it is their chance to change all that but still they are reluctant.

Think its the perceptions of the town and area thats 50 years out of date. Many away fans are more complementary of it than we are and are surprised by their day out and actually enjoy it more than they thought.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Stelling
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I repeat you can’t run a profitable club with gates of 5000, it won’t cover the outgoings, the only way that can happen is if a person or persons who have money to burn buy Pools.
Harold Hornsey sold Pools because he admitted he couldn’t afford to subsidise Pools.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Stelling
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I think you could run a sustainable club on gates of 5000, Not going to set the Leagues on fire, But probably hold our own.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Stelling
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Grayhoundend wrote:
I think you could run a sustainable club on gates of 5000, Not going to set the Leagues on fire, But probably hold our own.


I agree. We don't have to turn a profit, just break even. Theres a few clubs out there doing it.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Stelling
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derwent wrote:
The more we think about it/discuss it the more that reality tell us that what we dream about is simply out of our grasp. They just aren't queueing up to pump their hard earned brass into Pools.
I don't know what image the club puts across to put people off but surely it is their chance to change all that but still they are reluctant.


I think our time came when the Americans came knocking. You now have a national league club who will be nearly as popular and viral across the globe as a lot of Premier League clubs once they have delivered their strategies this summer. Never mind the absolute media love in they are getting here in the UK.

The foundations they are putting in place there could transform them for generations. And the two of them seem so in tune with it given the mega sponsorship deals (TikTok to name one), American tours, the viral content Reynolds pushes on behalf of Wrexham - and constant exposure they are giving them.

Shirt sales in Canada/America with Marvel & Deadpool on. Rumours of features in TV series/fillums. They are tapping into markets all over the place. Savvy business and marketing gurus - both of them. A literal once in a lifetime being rolled out at Wrexham. When they pull the plug eventually, you’d imagine Wrexham will have enough to carry that legacy on in some form.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Stelling
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Pooly_Imp wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
I think you could run a sustainable club on gates of 5000, Not going to set the Leagues on fire, But probably hold our own.


I agree. We don't have to turn a profit, just break even. Theres a few clubs out there doing it.


Disagree, IOR were subsidising Pools year on year writing off 1 million pounds every season, not many if any football clubs in the lower leagues survive with out cash input from whomever owns them.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Stelling
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Pooly_Imp wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
I think you could run a sustainable club on gates of 5000, Not going to set the Leagues on fire, But probably hold our own.


I agree. We don't have to turn a profit, just break even. Theres a few clubs out there doing it.


Disagree, IOR were subsidising Pools year on year writing off 1 million pounds every season, not many if any football clubs in the lower leagues survive with out cash input from whomever owns them.


We were seen by all the other clubs as one of the wealthiest clubs in the division under IOR. Its not a very good example to use.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
I repeat you can’t run a profitable club with gates of 5000, it won’t cover the outgoings, the only way that can happen is if a person or persons who have money to burn buy Pools.
Harold Hornsey sold Pools because he admitted he couldn’t afford to subsidise Pools.

thats back then and its got a lot harder now to get success just on gate money. if thats the case then why are salford in the play offs and pools are going down.


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Its how the monies are spent.

Salford are an extreme example.


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Grayhoundend wrote:
Its how the monies are spent.

Salford are an extreme example.

well try barrow, mid league 1 fleetwood and relegation thgreatened div1 accrington and morecambe where the latter have had their off field problems like pools.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Stelling
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Jamie1952 wrote:
I repeat you can’t run a profitable club with gates of 5000, it won’t cover the outgoings, the only way that can happen is if a person or persons who have money to burn buy Pools.
Harold Hornsey sold Pools because he admitted he couldn’t afford to subsidise Pools.


That's not what we got told about 6 months ago. Wasn't it hobin who said we are now turning a profit.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Stelling
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
I repeat you can’t run a profitable club with gates of 5000, it won’t cover the outgoings, the only way that can happen is if a person or persons who have money to burn buy Pools.
Harold Hornsey sold Pools because he admitted he couldn’t afford to subsidise Pools.


That's not what we got told about 6 months ago. Wasn't it hobin who said we are now turning a profit.

or did that statement just suit the situation at the time with something we cannot prove was right or wrong. anything that comes out of pools is taken with a bag of salt and if they told me i owned a dog and take it to the vets for a second opinion.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Stelling
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
I repeat you can’t run a profitable club with gates of 5000, it won’t cover the outgoings, the only way that can happen is if a person or persons who have money to burn buy Pools.
Harold Hornsey sold Pools because he admitted he couldn’t afford to subsidise Pools.


That's not what we got told about 6 months ago. Wasn't it hobin who said we are now turning a profit.


Aye the same one that said watch out for our megga singing incoming.


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accrington fan wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
Its how the monies are spent.

Salford are an extreme example.

well try barrow, mid league 1 fleetwood and relegation thgreatened div1 accrington and morecambe where the latter have had their off field problems like pools.



Get what your saying, But it is how the money is spent.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Stelling
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Can we stop flogging that dead horse about IOR putting a million quid a year in. They didn’t!!!

Larsen funded it substantially but when he walked Ken Jong Il basically got it to break even. The big spending completely stopped when it was just Ken.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Stelling
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I live in Belfast and everyone I meet over here, when they know I am Hartlepool, mentions Jeff Stelling. I was at my sons footy tonight and the other Dads were going surely Jeff knows loads of big money people in London and media world, they said look what happened to Wrexham. We have an absolute legend of footy broadcasting who promotes our club every week on the biggest football show. I can't understand why it hasn't been proposed to do something like has happened at Salford, Jeff mixes with multi millionaires everyday of his life. Maybe I am being Naïve but were not talking mega money, just investors who love football and have money to play with.


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I live in Belfast and everyone I meet over here, when they know I am Hartlepool, mentions Jeff Stelling. I was at my sons footy tonight and the other Dads were going surely Jeff knows loads of big money people in London and media world, they said look what happened to Wrexham. We have an absolute legend of footy broadcasting who promotes our club every week on the biggest football show. I can't understand why it hasn't been proposed to do something like has happened at Salford, Jeff mixes with multi millionaires everyday of his life. Maybe I am being Naïve but were not talking mega money, just investors who love football and have money to play with.

got to agree as i have said this myself. jeff is possibly in the football world the only thing they know about pools and is better known than the monkey. problem is he can ask and make enquiries, but if the answer is no then thats it. eventually like us he,d be sick of asking and stop bothering.


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 Post subject: Re: Jeff Stelling
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Jeff has announced yet again that he is leaving Sky - this time he says it is true.

Perhaps he is going into full time Club ownership and buying Raj out?

That would be great news - c'mon Jeff you know it makes sense.


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Jeff put 50k in when R/S took over. He’s comfortably off but not a multi millionaire. That said, he’s a great figurehead.


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Critical Thinking wrote:
Jeff has announced yet again that he is leaving Sky - this time he says it is true.

Perhaps he is going into full time Club ownership and buying Raj out?

That would be great news - c'mon Jeff you know it makes sense.


Jeff could be the figurehead for a new consortium or even play a more active role within the current regime. Not that I'd expect Raj's ego the allow him to share the limelight with anyone, but it works for Mags - the Saudis were smart enough to put Amanda Staveley up as the acceptable face of their ownership.


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Critical Thinking wrote:
Jeff has announced yet again that he is leaving Sky - this time he says it is true.

Perhaps he is going into full time Club ownership and buying Raj out?

That would be great news - c'mon Jeff you know it makes sense.


Redemption required for sure.
Time to use his contacts in the game for the better of Hufc.
The President Role needs to be taken with more effort n Seriousness for a change.
Would of thought a famous one would of helped Hufc.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Critical Thinking wrote:
Jeff has announced yet again that he is leaving Sky - this time he says it is true.

Perhaps he is going into full time Club ownership and buying Raj out?

That would be great news - c'mon Jeff you know it makes sense.


Redemption required for sure.
Time to use his contacts in the game for the better of Hufc.
The President Role needs to be taken with more effort n Seriousness for a change.
Would of thought a famous one would of helped Hufc.


I don’t think Stelling has money to burn, Singh is a control freak, his way no other way.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Critical Thinking wrote:
Jeff has announced yet again that he is leaving Sky - this time he says it is true.

Perhaps he is going into full time Club ownership and buying Raj out?

That would be great news - c'mon Jeff you know it makes sense.


Redemption required for sure.
Time to use his contacts in the game for the better of Hufc.
The President Role needs to be taken with more effort n Seriousness for a change.
Would of thought a famous one would of helped Hufc.


I don’t think Stelling has money to burn, Singh is a control freak, his way no other way.

being a control freak could be the reason nobody has come into pools with money to help him out. no single person is going to give over money without any say in it. the best way forward would be jeff heading a consortium to buy raj out but only if they all sing from the same page and have pools as the main reason they are all there.


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