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 Post subject: No goals 3 defeats
PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:22 pm 
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A few are asking what has gone wrong and it's a good question. We go on a 8 game unbeaten run with 2 wins and plenty of goals and decent play to then lose three on trot 2-0...something smells wrong here sctatchinghead hope it's not financial problems.


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 Post subject: Re: No goals 3 defeats
PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:25 pm 
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Leggie43 wrote:
A few are asking what has gone wrong and it's a good question. We go on a 8 game unbeaten run with 2 wins and plenty of goals and decent play to then lose three on trot 2-0...something smells wrong here sctatchinghead hope it's not financial problems.

Think back to when we got relegated the first time and the players could have avoided relegation if they hadn’t been playing sill buggers on the run in, but what was behind that teams actions…?

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 Post subject: Re: No goals 3 defeats
PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:43 pm 
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Snowy wrote:
Leggie43 wrote:
A few are asking what has gone wrong and it's a good question. We go on a 8 game unbeaten run with 2 wins and plenty of goals and decent play to then lose three on trot 2-0...something smells wrong here sctatchinghead hope it's not financial problems.

Think back to when we got relegated the first time and the players could have avoided relegation if they hadn’t been playing sill buggers on the run in, but what was behind that teams actions…?

Makes you wonder Snowy it really does.


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 Post subject: Re: No goals 3 defeats
PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:12 pm 
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Looks a bit fishy I must say.

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 Post subject: Re: No goals 3 defeats
PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:52 pm 
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Sounds like a few players wanted out or are already on the way. So maybe explains some half arsed performances. Anyway do we want any of these players back next season? I'm not sure many would get games in the football league.


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 Post subject: Re: No goals 3 defeats
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Sounds like a few players wanted out or are already on the way. So maybe explains some half arsed performances. Anyway do we want any of these players back next season? I'm not sure many would get games in the football league.

No.

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 Post subject: Re: No goals 3 defeats
PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:39 pm 
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I wonder if they have been paid?

Surely not but who knows - anyone got any inside info?


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 Post subject: Re: No goals 3 defeats
PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:25 pm 
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I wish I was able to tell you, maybe I might be in due course.

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 Post subject: Re: No goals 3 defeats
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derwent wrote:
I wish I was able to tell you, maybe I might be in due course.


Please spill.... If its wages it would explain the dramatic loss of form in last 3 games.


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 Post subject: Re: No goals 3 defeats
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Sounds like a few players wanted out or are already on the way. So maybe explains some half arsed performances. Anyway do we want any of these players back next season? I'm not sure many would get games in the football league.

the players know for one reason or another they will not be with us next season so why bust a gut. this is where some players are thick as if you were a manager would you sign a player who is quick to down tools when they feel like it. next thing they,ll be moaning as part time football might be coming shortly to a few of these.


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 Post subject: Re: No goals 3 defeats
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:05 am 
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Interesting points Mr A - so should Askey have played the likes of Grey and Crawford - who do seem to care?

Like others, I've been astonished at the collapse since Stevenage - there must be a reason.


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 Post subject: Re: No goals 3 defeats
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:32 am 
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Brian Honour's Left Foot wrote:
Interesting points Mr A - so should Askey have played the likes of Grey and Crawford - who do seem to care?

Like others, I've been astonished at the collapse since Stevenage - there must be a reason.

the reason for the collapse is something we,ll never know. its not like the old days where someone knew a player and that player would spill the beans. doubt things would have been worse starting with grey and even crawford but its something else we,ll never know and JA cannot see what the future of the game would be at 3pm. guess there was load of talk and chest pumping from the players pre match that went out of the window once they entered the collusium of death.


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 Post subject: Re: No goals 3 defeats
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:46 am 
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Will JA do a GL and leave before the end of the season? Kevin Philips?


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 Post subject: Re: No goals 3 defeats
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:51 am 
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Football is an amzing game - here are some more clubs on the brink of collapse!

QPR - First 24 games 35 points, next 20 games 12 points
Reading - First 24 games 35 points, next 20 games 14 points (not including the 6points deducted)
Oxford - First 23 games 29 points, next 20 games 12 points
Port Vale - First 24 games 35 points, next 20 games 14 points

Sadly things just happen like that, 3 games is a small sample. What went wrong, Sylla missed a game, I don't know why, maybe religion? Then the chastised Murray who became a hero gets injured and we fall apart in defence. Or maybe just we were out played. It's what happens.


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 Post subject: Re: No goals 3 defeats
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:12 am 
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They give half arsed performances because they don't care about the club


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 Post subject: Re: No goals 3 defeats
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Davcla wrote:
They give half arsed performances because they don't care about the club

they do care but will never care as much as fans do. even in a short life of a player in the game the time they spend at pools is only a short percentage of it and unless they are from the town itself will have little love or interest in it as they,ll be living and bringing up a family somewhere else.


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 Post subject: Re: No goals 3 defeats
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:57 pm 
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Maybe guys we are reading too much in to it the reasons for the 3 game collapse. This is my theory. Although there is no doubt that Pools where playing a lot better on the 8 game run I was never convinced 100% we had turned the corner. Don’t get me wrong I was as happy as everyone we where playing like a top 6 league club for at least 20. -25 minutes of these games. However, the clue is in the last 20-25 minutes. In the 8 games maybe apart from Grimsby we where all over the place for 65 minutes. Every team had us on the back foot, the defending was comical, the passing was very poor and mostly we where just hoofing the ball up. The midfield apart from Sylla who on the whole has done a reasonable job was abject. Fergusons distribution was all over the place and Cooke was not much better. Because the midfield had no consistency, the strikers where just being fed scraps. Umerah become more and more disillusioned
Jennings was running around like a headless chicken and there was no inkling of an end product. All simultaneous of players who didn’t have enough technical skill or experience for the fast pace of league 2. However, as we all know the lads did get it together for 20 -25 min or so, in particular Kemp. But in my opinion the majority of the team where playing above themselves. That of course is to be commended. Askey also got to to take some credit for this. So, in my opinion because the squad where mainly northern league standard they good only play at the top of their game for 25 mins. So in affect the lads where overachieving for their level. Not their fault. By the time we got to the last 3 games they where burnt out. It’s only my opinion but that is my gut feeling . Over to you again guys .


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 Post subject: Re: No goals 3 defeats
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 1:19 pm 
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Agree completely. Some of the 45’s where we escaped pastings such as Swindon point towards us never really being all that good. To Askey’s credit though the style of play improved 10x fold in comparison to Curle. Bradford City and Grimsby performances were actually very good away performances.

I thought we’d blow Crawley away. But the warning signs were there at Salford who completely took us apart. Not for a lack of trying, the quality of our 30 odd man squad is so far from being good enough to compete.


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 Post subject: Re: No goals 3 defeats
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Good points Mr H-P. Interesting to add that JAs substitutions have been around the seventy minute mark and have been pretty effective.


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 Post subject: Re: No goals 3 defeats
PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 1:26 pm 
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I think we are in total agreement. Can’t change anything but the worry is that we still have a lot of these guys on the books for next season and as we all know the Conference league is no walk in the park


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 Post subject: Re: No goals 3 defeats
PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:35 am 
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harrogatepoolie wrote:
I think we are in total agreement. Can’t change anything but the worry is that we still have a lot of these guys on the books for next season and as we all know the Conference league is no walk in the park

a lot will depend on what those at the top regard as a good season next year. could be there expectations may be lower than ours. cheap mid table obscurity with non budgetted cup runs may be there ideal with constant mentions of york and scunthorpe thrown our way. the worry is that those we say are deadwood could achieve this with a bit of cash over to supliment them with decent players with no need to pay them off.


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