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 Post subject: Re: Salford v Pools
PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:58 pm 
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To be fair to them - they ran their socks off tonight. They weren't great - but they worked hard. Salford just have more depth and quality than we do (because we started the season with a useless Scottish shower of shit and we've been playing catch up ever since).


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Need to win two home games and hope somehow Walsall and Swindon wake up

Stockport are going to give us a hiding unless they resting players for playoffs


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loyal_fan wrote:
Need to win two home games and hope somehow Walsall and Swindon wake up

Stockport are going to give us a hiding unless they resting players for playoffs

All Crawley has to do is put 10 men on the line, we have used all our luck up in the 8 unbeaten games. A 0-0 for them is a better goal difference and 43pts to our what will be 40pts. Then that is it, they'll have the upper hand with Walsall (H) and Swindon (A). Two teams with nothing to play for.

Sorry to say, I can't see us winning anymore games or scoring any more goals this season.

I really hoping I'm proven wrong here. :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: Salford v Pools
PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:30 pm 
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To be absolutely honest, if we cant beat Crawley at home it means the better team is staying in the league. Not rocket science.


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 Post subject: Re: Salford v Pools
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ZNB12 wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
Need to win two home games and hope somehow Walsall and Swindon wake up

Stockport are going to give us a hiding unless they resting players for playoffs

All Crawley has to do is put 10 men on the line, we have used all our luck up in the 8 unbeaten games. A 0-0 for them is a better goal difference and 43pts to our what will be 40pts. Then that is it, they'll have the upper hand with Walsall (H) and Swindon (A). Two teams with nothing to play for.

Sorry to say, I can't see us winning anymore games or scoring any more goals this season.

I really hoping I'm proven wrong here. :oops:

Creepy simply can not park the bus in away games no chance at all :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Salford v Pools
PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:42 pm 
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"I'll tell my Uncle Arthur Mr Mannering." "You stupid boy." "Don't panic, don't panic." "We're doomed. Aye, we're doomed." "I have a cunning plan sir." "Well Baldrick, what is it. Let's hear it." "Boom boom boom boom. We put a perspex glass across the goal sire to stop them scoring. "Yes Baldrick what happens when we change ends?" "I'll get back to you sir." Pools 5 Crawley O. Pools 2 Barrow 0. Stockport 0 Pools 1. "I had a dream sir."


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 Post subject: Re: Salford v Pools
PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:01 pm 
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As bad as anything I’ve seen this season tonight. Ferguson played his worst game ever for Pools, complete head loss by the way. Umerah refusing to run off the pitch, also suffered big head loss.

Heads dropped at 2. Defensively it was a car crash. And yet I don’t think it is their fault, it’s just being miles apart from the level required. Feel like our luck has run out.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:43 am 
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First 10 minutes we had all the ball, but after their 1st attack and a near miss it was all Salford for the remainder of the 1st half. Ferguson could not keep up with their no. 24 (Boulton) he was like "shit off a shovel' and whipped in some great crosses for the lanky Matt Smith. We never looked like scoring really apart from an effort from Wes McDonald who was our only threat to their defence, wish he'd come on earlier. Second half was more even, but ended up walking away being relieved it was only 2-0 after the way they dominated most of the 1st half.


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 Post subject: Re: Salford v Pools
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:48 am 
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thebigdog wrote:
As bad as anything I’ve seen this season tonight. Ferguson played his worst game ever for Pools, complete head loss by the way. Umerah refusing to run off the pitch, also suffered big head loss.

Heads dropped at 2. Defensively it was a car crash. And yet I don’t think it is their fault, it’s just being miles apart from the level required. Feel like our luck has run out.



Your right big dog . The majority of the squad are just not league 2 level. And that is the reason where we are. Occasionally, like when Askey took over 4 or 5 play above themselves. That is natural and commended. Cream always rises to the top of milk and silt sits on the ocean floor.


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 Post subject: Re: Salford v Pools
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:54 am 
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ZNB12 wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
Need to win two home games and hope somehow Walsall and Swindon wake up

Stockport are going to give us a hiding unless they resting players for playoffs

All Crawley has to do is put 10 men on the line, we have used all our luck up in the 8 unbeaten games. A 0-0 for them is a better goal difference and 43pts to our what will be 40pts. Then that is it, they'll have the upper hand with Walsall (H) and Swindon (A). Two teams with nothing to play for.

Sorry to say, I can't see us winning anymore games or scoring any more goals this season.

I really hoping I'm proven wrong here. :oops:


Unfortunately, I feel the same way. Like you I would love to be proven wrong! But, I can only speculate what I see albeit on I-Follow. I have watched
The last 20 games and a few before that.


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 Post subject: Re: Salford v Pools
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:42 am 
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For starters they need to turn up on Saturday and look like they want to win the game. Ffs Pools it's time to wake up. We all know why this has happened, we know we ain't good enough, but come on surely they can raise their game enough to win a couple of home games?

When the season is over I hope the ones responsible for this kamikaze like approach to a football club naff off and are never seen again. It's been embarrassing for 2 years now.


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 Post subject: Re: Salford v Pools
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:01 am 
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really just a carbon copy of our last 2 games at their place as was the final score. only sylla and the keeper had decent games and the rest bar ferguson were average at best. made fergie the man of the match for salford as he was the best player on the pitch to constantly find a red shirt when passing. oh forgot about our top scorer who only looked interested in having an arm wrestle with their defenders and came out second best.


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 Post subject: Re: Salford v Pools
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[quote="loyal_fan"]Awful non entity clubs like Harrogate and crawley staying up while we go down.

add salford to that list. about 1600 home fans v 500 travelling poolies. if pools had been in their position we,d have had 5 to 6 thousand in the vic last night at least. shows the amount of fans you get mean sod all in todays football with clubs being kept afloat by owners whilst we get dragged down by ours.


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 Post subject: Re: Salford v Pools
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:18 am 
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loyal_fan wrote:
Need to win two home games and hope somehow Walsall and Swindon wake up

Stockport are going to give us a hiding unless they resting players for playoffs

these two home games look far more winnable than the last two away ones we lost. saturday is our cup final and will decide where we play next season. its so nail biting as crawley can afford to lose this by a single goal and just match pools results in their last 2 games. said months ago that there could be something on the stockport game and seeing as they look to have blown their automatic chance i cannot see em going for the jugular if they have secured a play off spot and thats it.


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First 10 minutes we had all the ball, but after their 1st attack and a near miss it was all Salford for the remainder of the 1st half. Ferguson could not keep up with their no. 24 (Boulton) he was like "shit off a shovel' and whipped in some great crosses for the lanky Matt Smith. .


Ferguson has been a liability in a dozen games this season. He struggles against any winger who runs at him, can't stop them when they go for the byline and can't stop them when they cut inside. 9 times out of 10 they get their cross or shot off. I said months ago that opposition managers were targeting him. His strengths are going forward, but no team in the EFL can get away with a full back who can't defend. While Challinor was here in the first part of last season Fergie wasn't an automatic pick - he had Francis-Angol in the squad as a better defensive option.


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 Post subject: Re: Salford v Pools
PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:48 am 
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Stockport dont need to go for the jugular because the opposition lack skill and motivation and man for man Stockport are far better. They can win by two or three goals without breaking sweat.


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 Post subject: Re: Salford v Pools
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Flying Hogans wrote:
barriewardrobe3 wrote:
First 10 minutes we had all the ball, but after their 1st attack and a near miss it was all Salford for the remainder of the 1st half. Ferguson could not keep up with their no. 24 (Boulton) he was like "shit off a shovel' and whipped in some great crosses for the lanky Matt Smith. .


Ferguson has been a liability in a dozen games this season. He struggles against any winger who runs at him, can't stop them when they go for the byline and can't stop them when they cut inside. 9 times out of 10 they get their cross or shot off. I said months ago that opposition managers were targeting him. His strengths are going forward, but no team in the EFL can get away with a full back who can't defend. While Challinor was here in the first part of last season Fergie wasn't an automatic pick - he had Francis-Angol in the squad as a better defensive option.


He can't even fall back on his distribution this season, it's been awful, his crosses either hit the first man or get twatted a mile over the bar, no pressure on him as a player either cos we have no one else that can play LB.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:37 am 
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SpongeBob wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
barriewardrobe3 wrote:
First 10 minutes we had all the ball, but after their 1st attack and a near miss it was all Salford for the remainder of the 1st half. Ferguson could not keep up with their no. 24 (Boulton) he was like "shit off a shovel' and whipped in some great crosses for the lanky Matt Smith. .


Ferguson has been a liability in a dozen games this season. He struggles against any winger who runs at him, can't stop them when they go for the byline and can't stop them when they cut inside. 9 times out of 10 they get their cross or shot off. I said months ago that opposition managers were targeting him. His strengths are going forward, but no team in the EFL can get away with a full back who can't defend. While Challinor was here in the first part of last season Fergie wasn't an automatic pick - he had Francis-Angol in the squad as a better defensive option.


He can't even fall back on his distribution this season, it's been awful, his crosses either hit the first man or get twatted a mile over the bar, no pressure on him as a player either cos we have no one else that can play LB.


You could see Fergie's confidence was completely shot after the first 20 minutes last night. Genuinely felt sorry for him - he should of been subbed. Captain for the night too!


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 Post subject: Re: Salford v Pools
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SpongeBob wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
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First 10 minutes we had all the ball, but after their 1st attack and a near miss it was all Salford for the remainder of the 1st half. Ferguson could not keep up with their no. 24 (Boulton) he was like "shit off a shovel' and whipped in some great crosses for the lanky Matt Smith. .


Ferguson has been a liability in a dozen games this season. He struggles against any winger who runs at him, can't stop them when they go for the byline and can't stop them when they cut inside. 9 times out of 10 they get their cross or shot off. I said months ago that opposition managers were targeting him. His strengths are going forward, but no team in the EFL can get away with a full back who can't defend. While Challinor was here in the first part of last season Fergie wasn't an automatic pick - he had Francis-Angol in the squad as a better defensive option.


He can't even fall back on his distribution this season, it's been awful, his crosses either hit the first man or get twatted a mile over the bar, no pressure on him as a player either cos we have no one else that can play LB.

early on when we were in the game ferguson made a mess of an easy cross and his game went downhill from that. toil all season.he problem is realistically we have no one else to play in that position where he has more or less been off the b


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accrington fan wrote:
SpongeBob wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
barriewardrobe3 wrote:
First 10 minutes we had all the ball, but after their 1st attack and a near miss it was all Salford for the remainder of the 1st half. Ferguson could not keep up with their no. 24 (Boulton) he was like "shit off a shovel' and whipped in some great crosses for the lanky Matt Smith. .


Ferguson has been a liability in a dozen games this season. He struggles against any winger who runs at him, can't stop them when they go for the byline and can't stop them when they cut inside. 9 times out of 10 they get their cross or shot off. I said months ago that opposition managers were targeting him. His strengths are going forward, but no team in the EFL can get away with a full back who can't defend. While Challinor was here in the first part of last season Fergie wasn't an automatic pick - he had Francis-Angol in the squad as a better defensive option.


He can't even fall back on his distribution this season, it's been awful, his crosses either hit the first man or get twatted a mile over the bar, no pressure on him as a player either cos we have no one else that can play LB.

early on when we were in the game ferguson made a mess of an easy cross and his game went downhill from that. toil all season.he problem is realistically we have no one else to play in that position where he has more or less been off the b


Ferguson has never played at a high level of football, he is very average defender


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As bad as anything I’ve seen this season tonight. Ferguson played his worst game ever for Pools, complete head loss by the way. Umerah refusing to run off the pitch, also suffered big head loss.

Heads dropped at 2. Defensively it was a car crash. And yet I don’t think it is their fault, it’s just being miles apart from the level required. Feel like our luck has run out.


Yet the Stats for the game say it was an even game.

But the quality showed through for salford.
Cookes shot that hit the keepers hand and went for a corner, The keeper new nothing about it.
Could have instilled some belief

We all have know since the first match of the season that the back line was suspect.
So, so called coaches at the club should have addressed the situation and did not thats
Why we find ourselves in the shit.

Very poor management to say the least.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
SpongeBob wrote:
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Ferguson has never played at a high level of football, he is very average defender


He had a few games in the Championship for Blackpool. After they were relegated he was made Blackpool's captain in League One, but that was when the Oystons were asset-stripping the club. He got released at the end of the season and his next club was - Shildon!


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 Post subject: Re: Salford v Pools
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[quote="Grayhoundend"][

Yet the Stats for the game say it was an even game.

But the quality showed through for salford.
Cookes shot that hit the keepers hand and went for a corner, The keeper new nothing about it.
Could have instilled some belief

thats why those stats mean sod all. correct about if cookes shot had gone in it could have been a game changer. equally they could have won 5 nil if their chances had all gone in.


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accrington fan wrote:
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Yet the Stats for the game say it was an even game.

But the quality showed through for salford.
Cookes shot that hit the keepers hand and went for a corner, The keeper new nothing about it.
Could have instilled some belief

thats why those stats mean sod all. correct about if cookes shot had gone in it could have been a game changer. equally they could have won 5 nil if their chances had all gone in.


Stats mean sod all but you use stats to say we could've lost 5 nil?

Make your mind up


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We never say die here at Hartlepool we should play that
Pools song to the team to see if they show any fight


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thats why those stats mean sod all. correct about if cookes shot had gone in it could have been a game changer. equally they could have won 5 nil if their chances had all gone in.


Stats mean sod all but you use stats to say we could've lost 5 nil?

Make your mind up[/quote]
no i used my eyes and brain to work out what could possibly have happened. what did stats do for salford in their previous game against colchester. they had 20 odd shots against the 4 they had but the result went to the side with the least shots. therefore what was the point of the stats.


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
To be absolutely honest, if we cant beat Crawley at home it means the better team is staying in the league. Not rocket science.


Exactly:


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SpongeBob wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
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Yet the Stats for the game say it was an even game.

But the quality showed through for salford.
Cookes shot that hit the keepers hand and went for a corner, The keeper new nothing about it.
Could have instilled some belief

thats why those stats mean sod all. correct about if cookes shot had gone in it could have been a game changer. equally they could have won 5 nil if their chances had all gone in.


Stats mean sod all but you use stats to say we could've lost 5 nil?

Make your mind up


Thats what i thought!


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We live in hope never say die somebody tell the team that


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not real horror shows in the last two games, but need to remember after we had one with the defeat at the vic 5 nil to stockport six days later we won at crawley and kept a clean sheet. football as they say is a funny old game with no guarentees in any game. think the crawley massive will be equally upset about the outcome of their last two winnable home games more than we are about our last two away ones.


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That's the thing Saturday is a different day. If these players can't get up for Saturday or put a performance on they deserve to go down.


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accrington fan wrote:
not real horror shows in the last two games, but need to remember after we had one with the defeat at the vic 5 nil to stockport six days later we won at crawley and kept a clean sheet. football as they say is a funny old game with no guarentees in any game. think the crawley massive will be equally upset about the outcome of their last two winnable home games more than we are about our last two away ones.


True, but a glance at the league table and their remaining fixtures will settle their anxiety.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
That's the thing Saturday is a different day. If these players can't get up for Saturday or put a performance on they deserve to go down.

and the irratic ones need to make sure they are on there game and others to help out if they get marked out of the game.


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