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 Post subject: This girl in the river (or not)
PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:24 pm 
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All seems very odd. The phone on the bench is a giveaway, if she fell in why would she go to the trouble of putting her phone on a bench first? Surely it would on the riverbank or in the water. Surely she would have dropped it as she fell.

Then we have the sonar bloke saying categorically that there is no body in there between the point that the police say she went in and the weir.

She went missing at the only point that there are no cameras.

There’s a rabbit off here and first suspect is usually the partner although there is now talk of a scruffy red van. Either way the Police were a bit previous stating that she definitely drowned without a shred of evidence to back it up.

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Think the phone was on the bench cas she was listening to a works meeting while playing with her dog. The lead being between the bench and the river seems to indicate she got up to put it on the dog during the meeting so I reckon someone spooked her and the dog. Question is why did the dog remain near the bench surely it would have followed her if someone took her. The police must have though she fell in cas of lead and dog remaining put. I think she is in one of the houses close to the river but cant understand the dog staying put thing. It is a very strange situation cas the woman who found the dog and mobile simply tied up the dog and told a family member to raise the alarm cas she had an appointment it then took that person another 1 hour 40 minutes to sort while the poor dog was left tied up. Something very very strange for sure here.


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Pure speculation but it couldn't be another abduction from a serving police officer could it?


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Thousands of people disappear without trace every year, but this particular case has attracted an extraordinary amount of media interest….all rather odd..not the cast, the media obsession.

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Well on Saturday 7th Jan a bloke chased a woman along a canal path in Lancashire and tried to grab her in broad daylight. She managed to alert a member of the pulic and the dodgepot scampered. The police at the time issued CCTV of the bloke and asked if anyone knows who he is. The police have now found out who this bloke is and released a statement on 7th Feb saying " he will be spoken to in due course" are the police for real rakxe


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No shock. Remember that four Asian blokes in Rotherham were given cautions after admitting to having sex with a 12 year old.


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Snowy wrote:
Thousands of people disappear without trace every year, but this particular case has attracted an extraordinary amount of media interest….all rather odd..not the cast, the media obsession.

with you all the way there. a bloke has gone missing near me and it hasn,t even made the local news. shades of the mccanns again for some unknown reason.


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You dont do the same dog walk for 12 years then all of a sudden fall into a river.
Abduction or A very well planned getaway.
Obviously at this stage the Police cant release to much info.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
You dont do the same dog walk for 12 years then all of a sudden fall into a river.
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You can, that’s like saying you’ve drove down the same road for 30 years and can’t have an accident….. maybe get too used to the routine and get sloppy.That said, looking at that river, it’s very slow moving so if she had fell in she wouldn’t have drifted far down the river especially if it’s tidal with a clear run.
Could be anything, I’m just surprised at the wall to wall coverage.

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Thousands of people disappear without trace every year, but this particular case has attracted an extraordinary amount of media interest….all rather odd..not the cast, the media obsession.


Does anyone remember the accountant called Kilvington (practice in Scarborough Street) who disappeared in the 1970s?

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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
You dont do the same dog walk for 12 years then all of a sudden fall into a river.
Abduction or A very well planned getaway.
Obviously at this stage the Police cant release to much info.


Interesting Kev I thought the news had said she walked the dog there every day sctatchinghead


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Who's been running this operation? The dive expert or the police? sctatchinghead


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Sussex UK wrote:
Who's been running this operation? The dive expert or the police? sctatchinghead


Keystone Cops banghead


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Just found out it was the farmers wife who found & tied up and left the dog for around 1hour 40 minutes. This farm has the caravans and this is the place that one camera (facing bench) was not working but the rest on the site are working sctatchinghead Think this site needs turning upside down to solve this mystery sctatchinghead It turns out that the farm owners have threatened to kill a dog for trespassing on there land even though it has right of way.


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Not sure about the girl in the river but most of our team disappear every week


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you have to turn up first to disappear.


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 Post subject: Re: This girl in the river (or not)
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Missing mother Nicola Bulley had "significant issues" with alcohol brought on by her ongoing struggles with the menopause, police have said.
Det Supt Rebecca Smith said she was listed as high risk because of a "number of specific vulnerabilities".
But she added this was "normal in a missing person investigation with the information we were in possession of".
According to the College of Policing, the category is applied when the risk of a person coming to serious harm is assessed as very likely.
Why didn’t they release this statement before ?


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Didn’t they also mention a past history of this?

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Snowy wrote:
Didn’t they also mention a past history of this?


No, only come out ar a press conference yesterday.


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Is the abduction theory less likely now they have revealed her struggles with alcohol ?


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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Didn’t they also mention a past history of this?


No, only come out ar a press conference yesterday.

Er, yes I realise that, I watched the press conference.

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Is the abduction theory less likely now they have revealed her struggles with alcohol ?


Not at all, as you well suggest, I can't state how unimpressed I am with the Lancashire police, they seem arrogant, amateurish and way out of their depth.

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I find it a bit strange that they have mentioned the menopause and alcohol problems in the same sentence.


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The police have also been asking for dash cam footage from motorists on the wrong section of road, not purposely just by mistake apparently.

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I see Cruella Braverman asking questions re the statement which was released, I wish she was as concerned with all the other issues we have albeit sad that a woman is missing.


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Her body has been found - in the river.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
I see Cruella Braverman asking questions re the statement which was released, I wish she was as concerned with all the other issues we have albeit sad that a woman is missing.


Don't you think she should be asking questions. Isn't that her job. I would raise my eyebrows if she was ignoring it and I think you would too.

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Her body has been found - in the river.


Apparently near to where she was thought to have fallen in.

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Doesn't say a lot about that bloke (Faulding?) who was supposed to have searched the river with his sonar equipment and said she's not in the river.

Feel very sad for her children & partner.

RIP Nicola


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So were the police right all along…?

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Sussex UK wrote:
I find it a bit strange that they have mentioned the menopause and alcohol problems in the same sentence.

Could it be she may have acted less rationally with the pressures and problems associated with the conditions.

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They've searched and better searched that river, so what did they do this time that wasn't done before.
What if she was abducted and when became surplus to requirements was murdered and then dumped in the river thus suggesting it really was an accident after all.
I would dare suggest that forensics will be all over this and we haven't heard the last of it.

R I P Young Lady.

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I suspect her body may have been trapped in bankside foliage and roots……ok tootling up and down river scanning the channel, maybe they never checked the most obvious areas for snagging a body, which is a bit harder.

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derwent wrote:
They've searched and better searched that river, so what did they do this time that wasn't done before.
What if she was abducted and when became surplus to requirements was murdered and then dumped in the river thus suggesting it really was an accident after all.
I would dare suggest that forensics will be all over this and we haven't heard the last of it.

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She was found by two dog walkers not the keystone cops confised


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The bodies are always found by the dog walkers,…..well the dogs do the work.

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Coming at this from a different angle, several years ago, I was the Data Protection Officer for a large Department and it was a bastard of a job. I'm just your average "Joe Soap" but you virtually had to be a legal bod to understand the intricasies of the Data Protection Act.
Anyone can make a "Subject Access Request" for their "Personal Data" which means something that identifies the subject plus an intention towards them and which is held on a "structured" file that can be manual/electronic/CCTV or whatever. This means rifling through the aforementioned files to locate any relevant data, return same to the subject within forty days of their request and all for the princely sum of a tenner. "Personal Data", incidentally, covers different categories, the top one covers "sensitive" including "Health" which is where I should have come in. Apologies, therefore, for my old rabbit but I thought I'd provide some background while I was on. As stated, I would add that I haven't dabbled in the Act for somewhile and I've been informed that it has been amended although I doubt that the basic principles would have changed much, if at all. Similarly, if I had a huge cardboard box in a corner where I kept miscellaneous correspondence from the likes of Hugh Janus, Rudolph Hucker and Ms Norma Snockers etc. this (then) would not be classed as a structured file as it is a mish-mash of documents in no particular order.
Now, consent to release one's sensitive data can only be given by the data subject themselves but, in this intriguing and highly unusual case, that would prove impossible. I can only assume, therefore, that the Information Commissioner's Office was approached for advice and it was suggested that consent be given to her partner or the police to release details of the problems she had been experiencing. That said, from personal experience, the ICO had a tendency to say, "The final decision is yours", presumably to keep their noses clean. This always struck me as a bit daft because if I had suggested that I intended to choose option number two out of four and they knew it was incorrect, a quiet word could surely have prevented a consequent waste of a lot of time and possible fine. If, on the other hand, Ol' Bill had taken the decision to release the information off their own volition, then I fear they could well be in the shite.
A couple of memories if I may. The Tories were running some sort of campaign and around one hundred and ten of their MP's submitted SAR's within a couple of days of each other. All this in addition to my normal daily duties. I think most people know, by now, just how cash-strapped the majority of them are, having to resort to "other means" in order to maintain their lifestyles. When I wrote back, asking them to cough up their tenners, amazingly, ninety of them suddenly realized that they couldn't afford such an exorbitant fee and lost all interest, never to be heard of again.
Then there was the TV presenter/comedian who was preparing a show concerning the DPA. He wanted to know what we had to say for ourselves but, unfortunately, he was passed around because nobody knew who he should be dealing with. Eventually, he finished up with a lady who informed him (incorrectly) that it was nothing to do with us but was for the Home Office. The HO then redirected him on to me and he thanked me for looking after his request. When the show appeared, he started off by naming a few companies who had supplied him with information. He then moved on to us and made great play of the lady's surname which could be pronounced in two ways. Naturally, he chose the version which gained him a titter and which, to be honest, was entirely appropriate in the circumstances. He then mentioned me, referring to me as, "Mr Fuck Bollocks", which gained him another laugh. There's gratitude for you!


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