I didn’t see the sending off as my iPad was buffering but of course it changed the game. However, same problem as usual no leaders, non existent midfield,
No fight, always second best in trying to win possession and of course no creativety. Most of the players in this team I’m afraid are not league 2 standard- it’s Curles team now and he has said many times in his interviews about not winning second balls but the players are just not reacting to him.
Not many good players today, Dan Dodds maybe. I just don’t know where we go from here. Crewe are a poor team and we made them look like Liverpool. I know we where a man down for a long time but the skill, no how and creativity is just not there.

The division is far too strong for us. The Scottish gamble was an insult and gross underestimation to the quality of the division we operate in. I even think Harrogate’s 11 and style of play makes a mockery of ours. That’s where we are.

I hope Hartley never has a shite again the useless twat

After the Crewe result I think the fat lady is clearing he throat and going through her warm up routine. NL here we come. Bugger. Bugger, Bugger, Bugger.

Yep I’m afraid it’s back to the conference and probably a long period of decline. Gillingham pulling away, Harrogate games in hand and Crawley now our only chance but they have 3 games in hand and you can’t see them losing the lot. Curle is an intelligent guy, you can see that. I believe he knows what’s wrong but the players are not responding to him. I do not think it’s him. The players are just not good enough. I have seen better teams on the Wreck if that place still exists. Sorry for the pessimism guys but I have seen enough now to tell me how sh**E this team is

I repeatedly said this over the summer during a long running debate with Poolie1 and Snowy (sorry Snowy!). The transfer policy stood off a mile, we weren’t building a team prepared to take on the standard we were heading into. I still believe there are better teams and players in L2 this season than the last.

Instead, we took an age to hire the complete wrong manager. Went to Portugal without enough players to train. Cancelled friendlies. Had a situation where Tom Crawford was our pre-season striker. Signed some of the worst players to pull on the blue. Endured another deadline day debacle of missed targets & last option Larrys. What’s different now is we’ve added another to the list… we signed ELEVEN new players mid-season. This is pretty much unheard of unless you are a Pools fan willing for something/anything to save us.

The trend hasn’t changed as so much we’ve tried to correct it all frantically in Jan - which we had to do - but up against Colchester, Gillingham, even Harrogate.. can we really say we’ve drastically improved the standard of our team? We’re also told by Curle these are the Pools players of the future, that squad continuity is finally on the horizon. Sorry but I think we’d get pumped in NL as we are now…

At least when we go down they won't be all this hysteria of trying to get 'back where we belong' because it's pretty clear we are not a FL club anymore.

Bang on. And we live in hope that one day our time will come (ala Wrexham, style…)

pools will become a new halifax with more fans. raj and the rest should thank their lucky stars so many fans have stuck with the side this season with very few good memories about it. if for some reason pools managed to survive it will only because 2 teams are worse which is hard to see. the last side that took us down were head and shoulders above this one and do not tell me the league has improved since then as for me it hasn

As the second half progressed i just mentally switched off and the next thing i knew it was post match analysis.......yes depressing.

Unless we have some sort of miracle, then this relegation has been coming since the minute we actually won promotion, the excuses of having no time to prepare started it all off. Even though any football club with an ounce of sense would of had things set in place and players lined up. Not us we decided to sell anyone we could. The same old play off budget nonsense thrown out there, then the we are after this 100k player, who somehow falls through, we then don t get a 50 k player or someone of even anywhere near the value we get 4th and 5th choice players, happens on a regular basis. It's false promises verging on lies.

Then raj gets round a lot of the fan base with filling the team full of kids or has beens, we then apparently have a massive wage bill, which in reality is a hell of a lot of costcutter players on non league wages.

If facts were produced by the 24 clubs in this league wage bills I'd hazard a guess were bottom or 2nd bottom of it which is scandalous compared to some clubs in this league. How raj has managed to somehow keep getting 4500 fans through the turnstiles is some sort of miracle.

Unfortunately yes this has been coming - the disjointed fecked up nature of everything that has gone on at the club since DC departure has had the letters pinned firmly to the wall for all to see ! the PH appointment was the nail in the coffin - only few could see it though... i will admit i was on the wee twanky band wagon and was totally sold by our new scottish recruits.

its more than a shambles - we arnt where we belong its clear - we never where, well out of our depth

its a shame - i enjoyed our little flutter back with the big lads and nearly getting to the pizza cup final at our first ask but - the ship is sinking...

we will be a half decent sized fish again in a small pond - luckily we may only have to contend with one money bags side in that league next season should one of the top current 2 stay there - but there is always that one team that has a resurgent push for promotion like what Woking are doing just now - its those teams that make us suffer when we are down there.

plus how many of the new lads are really going to stick around when we go down - bet most where only offered contracts till end of the season or maybe till next Jan ( with clauses)

Does it matter how many big money teams are in that league next year though? No way on earth are we going to trouble the top half. Look at the players we lost and they finished 6th. This team will take us very close to national North and that's if we keep umerah. If we let him go we will sink straight through it.

anyone really expecting so many new signings to click overnight are seriously deluded with these new lads. In summer there is a pre season for em to gell with the odd last minute signing. now thse lads had to be up and running the day they walked into the ground with little time to form any relationships with each other on the pitch. some of these lads are not bad and the hope is that they become a team before its really too late.

no one knows yet who will stay so its too quick to judge anything at the moment. we do not know for certain who will manage this team come august and raj being raj will put all the blame on LC for us going down.

They sort of did gell against doncaster though, are they actually good enough? We seem to be going backwards again. First half versus sutton was so bad it was embarrassing.

I respect your optimism, Mr accy but I really think it is too late.

we play swindon at the vic on april fools day. think after that game we,ll know if we are fools to have believed in anything about pools this season and any hope we ever had.

REC

everyone says that but its totally untrue. my lad used to play in what was called the united counties league which is about northern league standard. he played a couple of charity games against ex league players who scored double figures in the games and it was literally old men v boys in their mid 20,s. its just some are not good enough for league football.

Could be worse, could be a Southend Supporter. Could have a new club in a couple of years. Like Bury, Macclesfield & Darlo.


Oh wait that's us next season......

If we’re really lucky there’ ll be a world war, season cancelled and we could be in the Radioactive Premiership as all the big places will be gone.

It's time to think about going down the fan owned Club scenario.

I'll wait for the "don't talk sh*t" brigade to have a go at me.

I agree, but I can't see a position where Raj would leave without his money back (and more) + the club being free from the debt from Sage. Talking upwards of 3 million just to clear that.

its not talking shit but who will be these super fans to run it. name one single issue regarding pools and you will have a row on our hands. apart from winning games i doubt you,ll find an issue fans can agree on.

Fact is, when we were in the shit after Coxless disappeared, those who had money didn’t want to know, and those who wanted to know had no money…that’s how we ended up with Raj.
At times like this there’s always talk of someone coming to the rescue, but they never emerge from the shadows., more’s the pity.

its far easier for fans to spend someone elses money than their own. this fan ownership has been around for years and if its all that good why hasn,t other clubs dabbled in it. Think exeter have but are they still fan owned or have a backer on board with them.

Or "Stop banging on like an old record ".. One of Peej's favourites.

A lot depends on how long Singh is prepared to sustain losses, he can’t be or the company Pools are registered as be making any money, we don’t have any assets except the goal posts and the corner flags. I believe years ago a company removed the goalposts as we had not paid a bill. Another embarrassing time of recent was Pools didn’t pay the laundry bill and we had no strips.

You answered your own question there, its far easier to let someone else pay. Fan ownership means lots of hard work and extra expense for ordinary fans.
I could probably get a season ticket in a nice seat at the Boro and include travel costs to and from Darlo for less than I put into DFC every year.

Thanks to the miracle of IPTV, people who don't agree with how 'their' EFL club is being run don't have to spend a red cent to watch games and have their say on social media.

Of course, if said club has to go down the fan-owned route to survive, they can all be 100% relied on to get in line to prove the strength of their support, wallets, cheque books, phones or whatever else in hand...

All the work of Gary Gibson….got us promoted and signed some decent players….BUT…… it was a ride on an emotional roller coaster with the brakes disconnected….and we hit the buffers of reality.

Chester are fan owned and with a bit of luck they could be playing us next season in the National League!

Fan owned does not have to have thousands of subscribers, other than continuing to support the Club through the turn stiles but a relatively short number of "shareholders" willing to invest in shares of the Club.

If I didn't live so far away and was getting on in age I reckon I could "organise" and run a successful fan owned Club as I have been involved in football administration, finance and sales all my adult life.

Stop being negative and try something POSITIVE.

As you will know your self there is plenty of help support setting up a fan based football club as well as legal representation.

However, And this is a major stumbling block RE: Pools.
Fans just CANNOT get along and with out that it would be doomed from the start.

Sad but true. Too many need a huge dose of GROW THE FUCK UP but won't ever get it.

It’s like a Stagecoach with all the horses pulling in a different direction.

unless there is some real ex pools legend at the top that the vast majority respect from there playing career with the club.

but you would not enjoy it. i have tried but its like sat in the cinema where you,d be not bothered about the result. only go to non pools game to see my lad at stockport otherwise i would not see him as much. you may fall out with your club and get annoyed by it but you,ll never fall out or get annoyed by something you are not that interested in.

Yup, you’re a bystander, a witness, but not involved emotionally, no point.