The vast majority were the ones the U.K. needed to work in hospitality, care homes, picking vegetables etc, ok there might of been some we didn’t want but we have U.K. citizens who are not much better.
As far as the dinghies are concerned I can’t blame the French, why shouldn’t we accept a similar number as the rest of the European countries ?

Why the hell should we, what other countries do is their business, why on Earth should we want to mimic other European countries …… who we let in is our business, comparing us to them is nonsense.
Jeeeez.

And these are the sort of people you want to let in…….beam me up Scotty.

You appear to forget what or who caused the refugee situation, you reap what you sow, you don’t remember Afghanistan or Iraq ?

It only takes 1 or 2 bad eggs in any situation to cause problems, don’t tar every one with the same brush.

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Unless you build them of fireproof material they will just set fire to them like they did before.[/quote]
And these are the sort of people you want to let in…….beam me up Scotty.[/quote]

I have no conscience over that whatsoever because I didn’t vote for Tony Blair and his pal Bush to invade Iraq or Obama’s Arab Spring’…
Get real.
But then how does that have anything to do with African and Albanian ‘economic migrants’.

Don’t buy the box of eggs in the first place….

just two on the list of this country shoving its nose into situations thats sod all to do with it. they love acting like some super power in the world instead of taking a back seat on foreign conflicts like many other countries in europe do.

Let's see what the leaders of the EU have to say to Russia before we make our minds up,eh..

Report finds Boris Johnson Brexit deal caused the small boats crisis in the English Channel.
https://youtu.be/oq9VLUFLj6Y

Would that be ‘B Johnson Dinghies’, 69 Rue Shaggeur, Calais by the Dunes.

And has made over £5 million since his days as PM, amazing how much a borne liar can earn.

but truth in todays world is about as fashionable as spats and winged collars.

The Tories, Labour and business leaders have been holding secret meetings in the last couple of days according to some of the Sunday papers together to try and sort the brexit fiasco out, maybe they might find a solution to stop the channel crossings.

What ‘Brexit Fiasco’…..it was voted for and never implemented. If there’s a fiasco it’s down to the politicians of ALL party’s, with their summer retreats in Tuscany and soft spot for Brussels.

it was never going to be implemented when the vast majority of MP.s have an EU love in. power of the people my arse. really those who voted to leave wasted their votes as its a situation leavers and remaineers are now in the same dinghy, neither sides are happy.

I have started to hear statements that Brexit has not been implemented properly as a cover story to gloss over the adverse effects of brexit.
Boris said brexit was done so it must be done and an awful lot of people in all parties,business and commerce say it aint good so what do we do now?

The EU didn’t want us to leave the majority of UK politicians didn’t want to Johnson only used it to win the election by saying a deal was done or would get a deal done.

One of the consequences of brexit is at the end of the year U.K. citizens among others will have to complete an online visa ETIAS costing €7 per person.

Banks and insurers have moved almost £1tn ($1.4tn) out of Britain and shifted thousands of jobs to Europe due to Brexit, according to a "sobering" new report on the impact of leaving the EU on Britain's financial services sector.

I know the majority on here are Brexiteers but 7 years can anyone tell me the benefits, Covid and Ukraine provided a smoke screen for brexit now the facts are coming out, it was a huge mistake.

Are you that bloke who stands outside Parliament in the daft hat shouting out, who keeps moaning about us leaving the EU……when it comes to the EU you’re like one of those Japanese soldiers who kept fighting in the jungle for years after the war ended, when they should have been home in Japan making Datsun’s.
Move on….everyone else has.

Snowy I think you need to start reading into brexit and what’s going on, problems it has created for businesses small, large and to the individuals. The Bank of England has just stated not me £29 billion of business investment has been wiped out and caused a slow down in the economy.
As I said all politicians except Farage well he isn’t nor has never been one knew it was a mistake, they are having all party meetings to discuss the best way forward such are the problems.
The big red bus has gone up in flames, immigration has actually increased that doesn’t include the channel crossings.
I will keep wearing my daft until people realise brexit was a mistake and it is responsible for some the increased prices now. Most fruit and veg has to be imported as we chased the foreigners away who used to pick it in the U.K.
Thousands of laws are to scrapped at the end of the year which protects workers rights, food standards etc, take some time and read the link I have posted.
https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/co ... zZF1N8tg2E

we are still part of that european court of human rights so being in it makes leaving pointless in the first place. i seriously doubt this court in interested in my rights or anyone elses on here but give em a boat person for a friend their lawyers will love them to the very end.

My question is what do we do now as economically it has not worked. Flag waving, refugees and the fact you dont like the garlic breaths of the French are not that big an issue. Economics is massive to the UK.
What do we do now?

I could say rejoin but I think that would be huge vote loser, we need to try and negotiate some sort of a deal, the U.K. is out on a limb, we need an olive branch.
Nissan have said things need to improve economically even though they have invested loads in the U.K. albeit assisted by the U.K. government. I believe they are have problems with the ‘just in time’ system, they are having to buy more goods than normal and store it in warehouses costing money as they are problems with deliveries.

someone needs to be really brave even if it upsets half the country like thatcher. get out of this middle of the road approach trying to be all things to all people and not making anyone happy with the situation. if they put as much effort into sorting out the economy as for net zero we might have a chance.

I don’t think any of them have a clue what to do, they are all non politicians, Cameron dug a big hole for the Tories by holding a referendum not thinking it would be yes vote, p***** off when it didn’t go his way then people were taken in by Farage who has disappeared albeit has a nice little earner on the far right GB News. For a fella who has done nothing for the U.K. he has made a load of money of the back of brexit, watch this video re Farage.
https://youtu.be/G9DbzabzqdY

Not a Brexiteer, And have NEVER believed a word that immoral "very nice person" BJ uttered.
If people could not see beyond his facade then more fool them, People must have reaslised by now that he was just a Pawn.

Farage another pawn, See the pattern building.

And now we have a business as PM.
Wait for it.

farage has always been in a good position. he gets a bigger platform than anybody outside politics who can say whatever he likes and knows quite well what he does say will never be acted upon to see if he is actually correct. thats when he occasionally does say something positive instead of going all poolie and criticises all and sundry.

Brexit is Dead according to the Daily Telegraph who were a staunch supporter of Brexit, watch Heseltines take on it,
https://youtu.be/OJb3dqSKosQ

Part of the Union the Strawbs..Will they be singing it to an empty stadium?

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... d-26245870

Farage another pawn ? He's his own man, believe me..

7 years ago ?? wtf .. Was this about the time you set your stopwatch mr j?

Farage.................................No Mark.

Don’t need a stopwatch,just read the what’s in the media, as some of the brexit media are now doubting it was the right decision to leave the EU.
I also believe most politicians were remainders but only supported leave because voting leave would’ve cost them their parliamentary seat.

as usual its faces and town hall clocks again with politicians. why people even bother to vote nowadays is beyond me. there is no real choice but the party of the candidate. most could cross the chamber, spout their usual stuff and would not feel out of place.

The problem is not enough people vote, they then complain no matter who is in power, voting should be mandatory.

[quote="Jamie1952"]

I know the majority on here are Brexiteers but 7 years can anyone tell me the benefits, Covid and Ukraine provided a smoke screen for brexit now the facts are coming out, it was a huge mistake.
Are you seriously suggesting Putin invaded Ukraine to divert our attention from Brexit and the Chinese ‘exported’ Covid for the same reason….seriously?



Don’t need a stopwatch,just read the what’s in the media, as some of the brexit media are now doubting it was the right decision to leave the EU.
I also believe most politicians were remainders but only supported leave because voting leave would’ve cost them their parliamentary seat.


[b]So these politicians only voted Brexit because they might lose their seats….do the maths… if that was the case it meant their views were out of line with their constituents and thus the voters wanted Brexit,
….and the MP’s on question were two faced hypocrites[b/]

His battery ran out on the stopwatch in 2016.

oting for your party somewhere like barnsley or a number of london seats.
many would vote if they really thought it would make some difference. with the first past the post system why bother if you were a tory voting for your party if you lived in barnsley and parts of london. i for one would rather take the fine for abstaining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5wnVlA ... nel=GBNews




Looks like the Home Office aren't too fussed about what happens to any of the local staff at 1.45 ..And this is what we have to put up with now.

Considering how you have no time for the right wing press and even less for the Tories, it is most interesting that here you turn to both to strengthen your views on Brexit.

When you get to a certain age "Hopefully" you can see through smoke and mirrors and look beyond the NOW.
If people believe that decisions taken now, Have not been planned possibly 5+ years ago then they need to wake up.
Nothing happens overnight.

How long was Putin planning his invasion, Probably longer than Hitler and as then nobody did anything because it suits.
And we are probably paying through the nose for everything because of the sanctions we have in place.

Because they supported Brexit and now going into reverse and now beginning to see the errors in their ways.

The Ukraine war started in 2014, people for get that, plus the long running threats by Putin before that….maybe Putin had a Brexit crystal ball that ended up as balls up.

Admit it Jamie, you’re a redundant Euro MP pining for the good old days of allowances, flat in Brussels and the overflowing gravy train….there’s no sane explanation

Snowy once again I ask what up until now are the advantages of brexit after 7 years, I will tell you zero and there will never be any. You need to stop reading the right wing media, I suspect you also watch GB News

One advantage is that we now have blue passports.
Blue is my favourite colour.
As for any more i am struggling.

For those who are not aware what the advantages of being in the EU were
Over 40 years of peace
Erasmus and overseas study
A home market of over 500 million consumers Cheaper flights and compensation for delays
Help with tax avoidance
Maternity and paternity leave
Stronger voice in the world
Consumer protection
Investment in arts and culture
Cleaner air
Paid holiday leave
Maximum working hours
Cheaper mobile calls and international roaming
Visa-free travel across Europe
The right to work in the EU
Funding for UK regions
Opportunities for young people - our future leaders
Funding for start-ups 44% of UK exports
Safer food standards
3 million jobs
Lower prices in shops
The world's strongest animal welfare rights
Rights for part-time workers
Single market with no export charges of red tape
Product safety standards
Standards in the workplace
Europe-wide patent and copyright protection
Free healthcare across Europe
Cleaner beaches and waterways
Co-operation on counter-terrorism intelligence
Rights in equal rights pay for men and women
Protection against discrimination based on gender, race, religion, age, disability and sexual orientation
Strongest wildlife protection in the world
Investment and collaboration in science
European arrest warrant
Improved standards for farm animals

Which are now made in France !